AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

[Goal Coast]

A young person.

Not really I'm in my 30s.

 

[RedV3x]

Not really I'm in my 30s.

Young enough not to know the history of Australian Football.

 

[Goal Coast]

Young enough not to know the history of Australian Football.

I do remember when the Lions won three premierships in a row and people were saying the AFL were set to overtake the NRL in Queensland.
More and more people in Queensland are following the AFL but are they going to stick around once they realise the league is very Geelong centric? Once Geelong poach Harley Reid and Aaron Cadman it's going to turn people away from the sport.

 

[Fire]

I do remember when the Lions won three premierships in a row and people were saying the AFL were set to overtake the NRL in Queensland.

I was going to say "that never happened", but then I saw the rest of your post and now I'm just baffled by you.

 

[RedV3x]

I do remember when the Lions won three premierships in a row and people were saying the AFL were set to overtake the NRL in Queensland.
More and more people in Queensland are following the AFL but are they going to stick around once they realise the league is very Geelong centric?

Now I know you;re trolling because anyone who knows anything about football there is draft equalisation measures.
Some AFL teams have had good runs including the Lions.
If you asked any AFL fan they probably say that the AFL is collingwood-centric if anything.

If anything, by your logic, aren't people put off by the Broncos and Storm ?

 

[Chief]

Young enough not to know the history of Australian Football.

Reddie as they see them self:

Reddie as everyone else sees them:

 

[Goal Coast]

Now I know you;re trolling because anyone who knows anything about football there is draft equalisation measures.
Some AFL teams have had good runs including the Lions.
If you asked any AFL fan they probably say that the AFL is collingwood-centric if anything.

If anything, by your logic, aren't people put off by the Broncos and Storm ?

Broncos haven't won a thing in nearly two decades while the Storm are based in an area where rugby league is seen as a niche sport.
Geelong don't seem to be affected by the draft and salary cap, they poach players after they've been in the system for a few years at a cheap price in terms of draft picks and they seem to have a clever way at managing their salary cap, similar to how the Storm managed theirs in the 2000s.

 

[RedV3x]

Reddie as they see them self:

Reddie as everyone else sees them:

Now, do I have your permission to post something like that ?

 

[RedV3x]

Geelong don't seem to be affected by the draft and salary cap,

Now I know you;re trolling because anyone who knows anything about football there is draft equalisation measures.
Some AFL teams have had good runs including the Lions.
If you asked any AFL fan they probably say that the AFL is collingwood-centric if anything.

If anything, by your logic, aren't people put off by the Broncos and Storm ?

 

[Bjo187]

I do remember when the Lions won three premierships in a row and people were saying the AFL were set to overtake the NRL in Queensland.
More and more people in Queensland are following the AFL but are they going to stick around once they realise the league is very Geelong centric? Once Geelong poach Harley Reid and Aaron Cadman it's going to turn people away from the sport.

We can all welcome our newest troll to Bigfooty .

 

[Goal Coast]

We can all welcome our newest troll to Bigfooty .

The AFL has become too Geelong centric. Anyone who believes otherwise hasn't been paying attention.

 

[dave10]

I live in Queensland and rugby league is still easily the most popular football code in the state. News Corp are the NRL's biggest stakeholder, so they put out propaganda in The Courier Mail about AFL taking over in order to persuade V'Landys into giving assistance to rugby league in Queensland. We've seen it work with the Dolphins being rushed in and Magic Round being introduced in Brisbane.

Hardly anyone would recognise Lachie Neale walking through Wynnum Plaza despite him being the Lions best player and captain. If someone like Adam Reynolds or Reece Walsh walked through there they'd be mobbed by the crowd like a celebrity.

This doesn’t ring true with my experience as a resident on the Gold Coast. It’s not a certain rugby league town down here, home to 650,000 people no less.

 

[Bronson_123]

Not sure who to believe with different views from different posters in Queensland.

 

[RedV3x]

The AFL has become too Geelong centric. Anyone who believes otherwise hasn't been paying attention.

We can all welcome our newest troll to Bigfooty

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[GC2015]

Not sure who to believe with different views from different posters in Queensland.

The user who was downplaying the growth of Aussie rules in Queensland and brought up "real life experiences" as evidence also created their account yesterday and is already suspended. That's probably a pretty good indication of their credibility.

 

[Chief]

Now, do I have your permission to post something like that ?

Why do you need my permission to post a bit of mild banter about your age?

 

[RedV3x]

Why do you need my permission to post a bit of mild banter about your age?

Yes, because I've been ......
so i don't do anything without a precedent and even then it's........
I could say much much more but then........

 

[RedV3x]

The user who was downplaying the growth of Aussie rules in Queensland and brought up "real life experiences" as evidence also created their account yesterday and is already suspended. That's probably a pretty good indication of their credibility.

I don't know why why people bother.
Ancedotal stories usually prove nothing other than people move within their own circles.
I don't know why why people bother period.
Has anyone's view changed after having "discussion" on BF ?
I post a lot, so why do I post ?
Well, basically it's amusement.
IMO trying to justify spending $650 million of taxpayers money on NRL PNG is ridiculous if not deeply saddening and worrying for the future of Australian democracy.
IMO trying to justify spending $500 million of taxpayers money on NRL Perth is ridiculous if not deeply saddening and worrying for West Australian politics.
IMO bidding and gaining the Olympics and then not doing it properly is ridiculous and embarrassing for Queensland and Australian tourism.

Put the emotion aside and look at the figures.
Peter Dutton, arguably the most disliked politician in Australian history has a much higher approval rating than Albanesse..
Peter Cook, living in the Australian state of iron ore and honey is also at the bottom of the barrel.
Australians aren't stupid like some BF posters here. They see that the "logic" and figures don't add up.

But I have learned something and that is that PNG is going to be long term problematical to the NRL
for the same reason why people say that AFL NT is unviable in the long run without continued injections of money.
One has to ask "so why is the NRL doing this" ?
All I see is three men's egos. that's all.

 

[Fire]

As an asode, V'landies reminds me of Trump. He has a lot of showmanship about him, attracts a lot of power and favors, but is ultimatley offers nothing substantial and operates on the short term for personal successes qnd gains, rather than those of his organisation(s). He generates headlines and cult followers with flashy disasters sold as successes (like Vegas), but by the time it all comes crashing down he'll have moved on and everyone dumb enough to have put themselves in his sphere will be left holding the bag.

We will see I guess.

 

[Taper]

There's no doubt that the NRL would be taking notice of these kinds of articles/stats. The really concerning part is that they only just started a second franchise in Brisbane two years ago and it doesn't seem to be stagnating the AFL's growth at all. That might be enough to convince the NRL that they need to start a third team in Brisbane and base it in the western suburbs where the Lions are currently making inroads. One thing is for sure - if the Lions keep winning then they are going to keep growing their fanbase and it's really encouraging to see the early prediction is that the Lions will hit 70-75k members next year.

QLD has gone past SA in terms of TV ratings, participation numbers and providing talent for the AFL.
I don't see why the Lions and Suns should continue receiving leg ups from the AFL, unless they want to allow the Crows and Port to have academies as well?

 

[Macca180]

QLD has gone past SA in terms of TV ratings, participation numbers and providing talent for the AFL.
I don't see why the Lions and Suns should continue receiving leg ups from the AFL, unless they want to allow the Crows and Port to have academies as well?

Doubt that

 

[Aussie in exile]

As an asode, V'landies reminds me of Trump. He has a lot of showmanship about him, attracts a lot of power and favors, but is ultimatley offers nothing substantial and operates on the short term for personal successes qnd gains, rather than those of his organisation(s). He generates headlines and cult followers with flashy disasters sold as successes (like Vegas), but by the time it all comes crashing down he'll have moved on and everyone dumb enough to have put themselves in his sphere will be left holding the bag.

We will see I guess.

Mate at the moment he's running rings around Andrew Dillon

 

[kalex6251]

the p t barnum sugar hit will only go so far .... are the achievements that have happened under vlandys watch sustainable?

as for the afl - we may not like some of the things that they do but they are a professional organisation that get things done ...... i question anyones sanity that would argue otherwise

 

[GC2015]

QLD has gone past SA in terms of TV ratings, participation numbers and providing talent for the AFL.

Pretty significant if all of that is true. Shows how big the potential is in Queensland when you consider rugby league is ahead of Aussie rules in most metrics. Imagine what could be achieved in the sunshine state if we ever got a point of parity with the NRL.

I don't see why the Lions and Suns should continue receiving leg ups from the AFL, unless they want to allow the Crows and Port to have academies as well?

Because Aussie rules isn't the dominant code in Queensland. Look at the numbers from 2010-2018 when neither Queensland team played finals and compare that to the last six years while the Lions have been playing finals. Huge difference! The best way to grow the game in expansion markets is to have successful teams based in the market itself so the locals can create an emotional connection to the brand and feel pride when they win. It's why the Sydney Swans are so popular and also why Brisbane have become so popular in the last six years.

The AFL is thinking big picture here and the northern academies allow the AFL to increase/maintain the competitiveness of the four teams based in Queensland and New South Wales when they would otherwise have a natural drop off. There's no big payoff for the AFL if they allow the Crows and Port to have the same kind of academies because South Australia is already won in terms of the code wars. The potential payoff in Queensland and New South Wales is absolutely worth it for the AFL so they are going to keep doing what's necessary (without going completely overboard) to keep/make the northern teams competitive.

Whether you like it or not, the AFL has an ulterior motive here and it's to grow the game in the two northern states.

 

[The Educator]

Doubt that

I am sure it means in aggregate numbers rather ratings shares.....which just shows he is completely missing the point. Queensland has over 3.5 times as many people and the Aus football is far from the dominant code. SA would still produce a lot more talent even if raw participation is lower.