Preview AFL Round 19 - North Melbourne v Geelong, Etihad Stadium, 7:40PM Saturday 2 August

[Partridge]

huh? What am I a DQ over?

Disagreeing with JUBUB. Automatically makes you a drama queen.

He knows best. Just ask him.

 

[dazbroncos]

The statement was "Blicavs is a weak ruck". He averages 6.8 hitouts per game this season. You tell me any other ruckman, any other player, that would not be criticised for that kind of output.


The Qualifying and Prelim finals last year offered extremely compelling evidence for his argument. We'll find out in just over a month how much has changed (although the Fremantle and Hawthorn games will help too).

Must remember too that Blitz was playing those finals games with a fractured wrist. Won't change his numbers from those games but given that issue is fixed and he's a year better you would expect more this time.

Go Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

FFS it was his first season
You,cynical & VC really are a bunch of DQ's

Cynical 3 months ago wrote it all off. Told him to enjoy the break and see him back for 2015 season. Guess just could not keep the sooking to himself anymore..

Go Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

Is there any evidence whatsoever that "milestone" games make any difference?

Are people seriously suggesting that the players normally take it easy, but then if it's a milestone game they suddenly start trying?

You and partridge should have beers at the pub sometime and talk about this one. You'd get on like a house in fire..

Go Catters

 

[vinum coupe]

No there aren't, and no it isn't.

Either the players play better in milestone games or they don't.

If they players play better in milestone games, by definition they are playing worse in other games. There is no 'middle ground'.

Well I would suggest that in a group of 22, many players need to be motivated. And some don't.
And 'possibly' milestone games do motivate some. A 50 game milestone won't motivate more than a couple. But I reckon 250 games can help a group.

And that motivation might only have a very small affect on the game. Possibly something as simple as lifting the atmosphere of the dressing room pre game.

 

[Teriyakicat]

It simply means that it's wrong to say or imply that something must be either this or that when there are other reasonable possibilities in between.

Thanks Fred- why didn't you just say that in the first place?

 

[Teriyakicat]

Must remember too that Blitz was playing those finals games with a fractured wrist. Won't change his numbers from those games but given that issue is fixed and he's a year better you would expect more this time.

Go Catters

I guess we all know that, if a player presents to play, he's fit and well enough to play. Guess a bit of a sore wrist turned out to be something more sinister than expected but you'd have thought the medical staff would've looked at it before okay-ing him to play- or did he hide the soreness, thinking it was a strain and hoping he'd be OK? We don't know the full story, do we? I agree with you though- a non-dicky wrist certainly would improve his next finals appearances

 

[Bobby_]

Pops is also the heart beat of our football club. Such an underrated player but in many ways, he is just as important as what Scarlett, Ottens and Ling were to this club so I can imagine the atmosphere will be rocking. It's a big deal 250 games and what Kelly has delivered to all Geelong fans around the globe will remain permanently endeared, 3 flags and he often stood up when one of the others were getting tagged which was a key to our success.

Win, lose or draw, should be a great night but I think the Cats prove too damn good and consolidate their spot inside the top 4 with a 26 point victory.

 

[Partridge]

Pops is also the heart beat of our football club. Such an underrated player but in many ways, he is just as important as what Scarlett, Ottens and Ling were to this club so I can imagine the atmosphere will be rocking. It's a big deal 250 games and what Kelly has delivered to all Geelong fans around the globe will remain permanently endeared, 3 flags and he often stood up when one of the others were getting tagged which was a key to our success.

Win, lose or draw, should be a great night but I think the Cats prove too damn good and consolidate their spot inside the top 4 with a 26 point victory.

I'll take that result straight away.

 

[caitsith01]

Well I would suggest that in a group of 22, many players need to be motivated. And some don't.
And 'possibly' milestone games do motivate some. A 50 game milestone won't motivate more than a couple. But I reckon 250 games can help a group.

And that motivation might only have a very small affect on the game. Possibly something as simple as lifting the atmosphere of the dressing room pre game.

Maybe, maybe. That was my original point though - is there any evidence teams win more games on milestones? I would expect that the influence is so tiny that other factors are far more important 99.999% of the time.

 

[vinum coupe]

Maybe, maybe. That was my original point though - is there any evidence teams win more games on milestones? I would expect that the influence is so tiny that other factors are far more important 99.999% of the time.

Agree.

It's impossible to quantify.
They don't play the same game twice. Once with motivation and once without to get a differential.

 

[Lana]

Long-time listener, infrequent poster. Keep up the good work

Averaging out to approximately 2.5 posts per month comparing to the other extreme, teriyakicat who averages approximately 62 a day. You should post more.

 

[vinum coupe]

Averaging out to approximately 2.5 posts per month comparing to the other extreme, teriyakicat who averages approximately 62 a day. You should post more.

 

[_Me_]

you need to lift
5 posts per day av
if you subtract the judas and flake love
1.2 posts per day

 

[caitsith01]

you need to lift
5 posts per day av
if you subtract the judas and flake love
1.2 posts per day

Would you have more motivation to post if I told you it was Kelly's 250th?

 

[FredLeDeux]

No there aren't, and no it isn't.

Either the players play better in milestone games or they don't.

If they players play better in milestone games, by definition they are playing worse in other games. There is no 'middle ground'.

Even a Form 4 schoolboy Clear Thinking student could tell you that
Are people seriously suggesting that the players normally take it easy, but then if it's a milestone game they suddenly start trying?
is not the same proposition as
Either the players play better in milestone games or they don't.

Congratulations though, your second effort is yet another example of the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, as other posters have now explained to you.

 

[caitsith01]

Even a Form 4 schoolboy Clear Thinking student could tell you that
Are people seriously suggesting that the players normally take it easy, but then if it's a milestone game they suddenly start trying?
is not the same proposition as
Either the players play better in milestone games or they don't.

Congratulations though, your second effort is yet another example of the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, as other posters have now explained to you.

No, it isn't.

1. The players do try harder when there's a milestone game and therefore must not be trying as hard when there is no milestone game
2. ???
3. Milestones have no effect on effort in a given game.

Please tell me what this "excluded middle" (point 2 above) is. Or, if you prefer, continue spouting smart sounding gibberish, or pick a third option so that you don't sook about those being your only two choices.

If your complaint is the phrase "take it easy" then here's a link to help you with that part.

PS well done on taking a perfectly legitimate point (do players really try harder for milestones?) and turning it into a semantic whinge.

PPS "Form 4 schoolboy", what is this, To Sir With Love?

 

[you pick one]

I'll be glad to see footy back this week,this has been the hardest season to get into,just seems so bloody fragmented.

 

[Partridge]

You and partridge should have beers at the pub sometime and talk about this one. You'd get on like a house in fire..

Go Catters

Talk about what?

 

[you pick one]

Even a Form 4 schoolboy Clear Thinking student could tell you that
Are people seriously suggesting that the players normally take it easy, but then if it's a milestone game they suddenly start trying?
is not the same proposition as
Either the players play better in milestone games or they don't.

Congratulations though, your second effort is yet another example of the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, as other posters have now explained to you.

That's an oxy acetylene if ever I read one.

 

[FredLeDeux]

PS well done on taking a perfectly legitimate point (do players really try harder for milestones?) and turning it into a semantic whinge.

The point is that it wasn't and isn't a legitimate point, it was rhetorical nonsense masquerading as thought.
Anyway, if you (genuinely) think your two different propositions are the same, and (sheez, true) your grasp of reality and simple English is so defective as to make further argument in this dimension and that language pointless.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Pops is also the heart beat of our football club. Such an underrated player but in many ways, he is just as important as what Scarlett, Ottens and Ling were to this club so I can imagine the atmosphere will be rocking. It's a big deal 250 games and what Kelly has delivered to all Geelong fans around the globe will remain permanently endeared, 3 flags and he often stood up when one of the others were getting tagged which was a key to our success.

Win, lose or draw, should be a great night but I think the Cats prove too damn good and consolidate their spot inside the top 4 with a 26 point victory.

I like how the main board prediction thread has pretty much written us off for this game, will make our victory just that bit more sweeter.

Can't remember when or where this week, but somewhere I predicted Geelong by 5-6 goals and I still think that is the case... Too much on the line for us to drop this game.

Would like to see Bews recalled personally, I think he could be a good match up for Thomas

btw well done to Pops... to reach 250 games you have to be a damn fine footballer. A similar game from him as our last game vs NM would be bloody beautiful

 

[manboob]

Looking at Norf's record season, I would be ****ing pissed if we lost this.

 

[you pick one]

Looking at Norf's record season, I would be ******* pissed if we lost this.

Petrie is the one that worries me most loves kicking goals against the Cats,if he gets off the chain we could be in for a hard night.

 

[manboob]

Let's call him Cinderella, he's basically turned into a pumpkin. Useless.