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This would just lead to clubs hiding players.“The afl wants one system for FS, NGA and Academy”
This is pretty stupid, as it will dilute the talent pool exactly when Tassie come in…..
Imagine if the entire top 20 picks are either NGA or TAS!
Remove the entire entitlement for top 18 picks, make the first round sacrosanct.
lol - so unfair!
That's the easiest fix as all the argument is about first round picks.
If you remove father/son, priority, NGA, and academy from first round - it'll become simple to manage.
but wouldn't it be much less of a headache just to abolish it all? I'm failing to understand why any of this is preferable to a simple draft with no concessions.
If the go home factor is so big in the AFL when it comes to trading then wouldn't all these northern acadamy players be likely to ask to be traded home if there were not drafted by their acadamies club? that seems like a big enough benefit for the northern leagues dunno why they need a different set of acadamy rules.
Tony Lockett, Barry Hall and Buddy Franklin didn't seem to be more attracted to Melbourne over Sydney as a city.Because players are attracted to playing in Melbourne not necessarily where they grew up.
Tony Lockett definitely did until the AFL stepped in and forced him to head to SydneyTony Lockett, Barry Hall and Buddy Franklin didn't seem to be more attracted to Melbourne over Sydney as a city.
I wouldn't be surprised if clubs already do hide players. For example all you really have to do with a F/S or Academy player is hide them enough to get them from 10 -> 30.This would just lead to clubs hiding players.
Using my club as an example. Maybe Nick Daicos "injures" his back early in his draft year and doesn't play another game for the year and then doesn't do medical test that other clubs have access to.
Gold Coast did a terrible job of this last yearI wouldn't be surprised if clubs already do hide players. For example all you really have to do with a F/S or Academy player is hide them enough to get them from 10 -> 30.
The last step is not needed.Lyon flying the "woe is us" flag for St.Kilda
So many cumbersome solutions being suggested when three simple things fix it all
Change the points curve, pick 36 is the last pick worth points
No discount as being able to match is a big bonus
Cannot use more than two picks to match with any shortfall coming off your first rounder next year and you cannot trade it
Simple and would have fixed the JUH, Darcy, Daicos, Ashcroft rorts
St Kilda kicked Hall out.....Tony Lockett, Barry Hall and Buddy Franklin didn't seem to be more attracted to Melbourne over Sydney as a city.
Mac Andrew would've been great next to May and Lever. Damn the afl is so far from an even playing field it ain't funny.
Yeah North definitely deserve some more completely undeserved handouts.
How far are we going back?Tony Lockett, Barry Hall and Buddy Franklin didn't seem to be more attracted to Melbourne over Sydney as a city.
Really?How exactly is it a handout?
We don’t currently have an NGA zone.
Is that fair do you think?
Really?
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City of Wyndham, City of Melbourne not enough for you?
"NGA-eligible players must live in the following council areas:
- City of Melbourne (Kensington, Flemington, North Melbourne, Parkville, Carlton, West Melbourne, Docklands)
- City of Wyndham (Wyndham Vale, Williams Landing, Werribee South, Werribee, Truganina, Tarneit, Quandong, Point Cook, Mount Cottrell, Manor Lakes, Mambourin, Little River, Laverton North, Laverton, Hoppers Crossing, Eynesbury, Cocoroc, Seabrook, Sanctuary Lakes)"
Have you seen the extent of the zone?
It was a bottom corner of the Bulldogs zone which encapsulates a lot empty paddocks slated for housing developments currently.
It was also awarded a few months ago, so no player currently 15+ qualifies.
Our other zone is the Melbourne CBD of Docklands, Parkville and West Melbourne. Football heartland for young kids is it?
I'll happily swap all of the NT with Collingwood for their NGA Oakleigh Chargers zone.
You not only did you have that Oakleigh zone, but you had a big chunk of the NT zone yourself. Tell me, how fruitful has that been for Collingwood?
Doesn't fit your narrative though does it?
melbourne has had 1 good father/son in 30 years which is significantly less than the majority of clubs. Regarding Mac Andrew, he was in our academy, but the afl changed the rules after they gifted the dogs Ugle-hagan.How?
Melbourne are an established club, has benefited from father son access decades before expansion teams coykd and if they ever make a GF again automatically get it at their home ground. Plus dont travel as much as interstate teams.
All advantages interstate clubs dont enjoy..
1/. You said "We don’t currently have an NGA zone." = WrongHave you seen the extent of the zone?
It was a bottom corner of the Bulldogs zone which encapsulates a lot empty paddocks slated for housing developments currently.
It was also awarded a few months ago, so no player currently 15+ qualifies.
Our other zone is the Melbourne CBD of Docklands, Parkville and West Melbourne. Football heartland for young kids is it?
I'll happily swap all of the NT with Collingwood for their NGA Oakleigh Chargers zone.
You not only did you have that Oakleigh zone, but you had a big chunk of the NT zone yourself. Tell me, how fruitful has that been for Collingwood?
Doesn't fit your narrative though does it?
That map also indicates Nth get all of Tassie. I thought North and Hawks shared it??? Has that been changed?Really?
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City of Wyndham, City of Melbourne not enough for you?
"NGA-eligible players must live in the following council areas:
- City of Melbourne (Kensington, Flemington, North Melbourne, Parkville, Carlton, West Melbourne, Docklands)
- City of Wyndham (Wyndham Vale, Williams Landing, Werribee South, Werribee, Truganina, Tarneit, Quandong, Point Cook, Mount Cottrell, Manor Lakes, Mambourin, Little River, Laverton North, Laverton, Hoppers Crossing, Eynesbury, Cocoroc, Seabrook, Sanctuary Lakes)"
That map also indicates Nth get all of Tassie. I thought North and Hawks shared it??? Has that been changed?