Recruiting AFL Trade & Free Agency X - Club has elected not to fill list spot - Davey returning from injury?

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[Zach Package]

How is it unfair?

We change the rules every year to bring a competent club back to the back.

If we wanted Bowes we could have offered him game time, but we didn't because our mids are so good.

Why is it so unbelievable that he didn’t just take the easy way out?

For all the talk of Cotton On money and crap like that there is the path of least resistance.

 

[eth-dog]

Why is it so unbelievable that he didn’t just take the easy way out?

For all the talk of Cotton On money and crap like that there is the path of least resistance.

Because it's not allowed to be the fact Geelong are the best run club in the league and us the worst.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Because it's not allowed to be the fact Geelong are the best run club in the league and us the worst.

*equal worst

 

[eth-dog]

*equal worst

Nope

 

[andleanback]

With these salary dumps for draft capital you should have to take the original contract on your books for the length of the deal. Geelong getting away Scott free by smoothing it out to 450-500 a year.

 

[Foxx]

With these salary dumps for draft capital you should have to take the original contract on your books for the length of the deal. Geelong getting away Scott free by smoothing it out to 450-500 a year.

It's still a salary dump. So nothing the AFL can claim about it.
I think if the AFL are fair dinkum about equalisation they would tighten up on clubs paying unders. And to some extent backended contracts.

 

[andleanback]

It's still a salary dump. So nothing the AFL can claim about it.
I think if the AFL are fair dinkum about equalisation they would tighten up on clubs paying unders. And to some extent backended contracts.

Yeh I know but the flip side of the draft pick should be the disadvantage of having 800k on your books x2 years for a player who isn’t worth that.
You can’t tell clubs to not back end contracts because it would stop so much player mobility around the league and would disable the ability for clubs to add to their list, it’s the same as club front ending contracts to top up to the cap floor. It’s rare a player gets their set money year after year. Money is constantly moved around to create space to the cap.

 

[boncer34]

I totally agree. Just saying I think it's different to Stringer as Bulldogs would love Dunkley to stay, whereas they didn't want Stringer. I wouldn't be surprised if they raised that possibility with him to stay if they're at an impasse with Brisbane.

In the end I think he'll get traded, but it makes it interesting that Brisbane got rid of their first.

Brisbane are going to be a tough side next year with their ins this trade/draft period.

Well I was never saying the trades were similar though. Just that Dogs posters melting was a flash back.

 

[boncer34]

Dogs fans, "Brisbane have to satisfy us, they must meet our price."

Also Dogs fans, "Freo just need to accept our price for Lobb."

 

[Cup_o_Jobe]

Moving 22 in front of any GWS bids is now the main objective for mine (I know the talk is that a Davey bid comes in the 20s, but I'm not ready to dismiss McCartney's very real animosity as a decisive factor).

 

[BigT]

Exactly. It should only be available to teams that can afford it. Thus creating some level of equalisation and benefit to the bottom teams given free agency has worked out completely opposite to what they were planning.

Yeh I know but the flip side of the draft pick should be the disadvantage of having 800k on your books x2 years for a player who isn’t worth that.
You can’t tell clubs to not back end contracts because it would stop so much player mobility around the league and would disable the ability for clubs to add to their list, it’s the same as club front ending contracts to top up to the cap floor. It’s rare a player gets their set money year after year. Money is constantly moved around to create space to the cap.

 

[fargothegreat]

How gettable is Nick Bryan? And what's he worth?

 

[eth-dog]

How gettable is Nick Bryan? And what's he worth?

Not very and more than you can afford with your F1 presumably tied into the Hopper deal

 

[cAsEy_18]

How gettable is Nick Bryan? And what's he worth?

Maybe a F1 if you can find another one + Graham

 

[fargothegreat]

Not very and more than you can afford with your F1 presumably tied into the Hopper deal

Maybe a F1 if you can find another one + Graham

Oh wow. He's highly rated then!

 

[eth-dog]

Oh wow. He's highly rated then!

Yeah. He's a better technical ruck than Draper but not as aggressive. Most of us are hoping we can develop more forward craft between them so we can play them together.

 

[BrunoV]

Why is it so unbelievable that he didn’t just take the easy way out?

For all the talk of Cotton On money and crap like that there is the path of least resistance.

I'm not sure what you mean by the path of least resistance. It's not clear to me how that is basically taking a pay cut to play at a team at which you're not expecting to play.

According to SOS Geelong contacted Bowes' management during the year.

He's not going to Geelong because it's Geelong and they're well run. He's going to Geelong because they have convinced him of their interest in him.

Bowes could have already been told he'll get the first shot at replacing Selwood. Who is he competing with that his pedigree, age and experience would not have him in front of? Scott is very big on roles and team balance not reflecting the best 22 players on the list. Menegola, for example isn't a mid.

 

[boncer34]

I'm not sure what you mean by the path of least resistance. It's not clear to me how that is basically taking a pay cut to play at a team at which you're not expecting to play.

According to SOS Geelong contacted Bowes' management during the year.

He's not going to Geelong because it's Geelong and they're well run. He's going to Geelong because they have convinced him of their interest in him.

Fwiw they've told him there is a hole in their midfield he can fill.

 

[Squeaky]

How long until Bowes realises that the cats were only ever after the pick and not him?

My $ are on R8 2023.
He'll be 8 games into his VFL career...

 

[BrunoV]

Fwiw they've told him there is a hole in their midfield he can fill.

Exactly.

This is a kid that was a top 10 pick.

He will have an ego and he will have had expectations for his life career. He's not going anywhere to be depth and to take a pay cut while doing it.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

, Nick Haynes

26

Nick Haynes

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

and Lachy Whitfield are possibly on the market

if we aren't into at least Haynes i'm going to flip a lid!

 

[Howard Moon]

i think its pretty clear we are getting the barometer only so we have a live in game indicator to tell us when we are cooked

 

[ghostdog]

Toby Greene, Nick Haynes and Lachy Whitfield are possibly on the market

if we aren't into at least Haynes i'm going to flip a lid!

In what world is Greene, the Captain, on the market?

 

[ghostdog]

i think its pretty clear we are getting the barometer only so we have a live in game indicator to tell us when we are cooked

No, I don't think Walla comes back.

 

[Laverdeee]

i think its pretty clear we are getting the barometer only so we have a live in game indicator to tell us when we are cooked

don't we already have stringer for that?