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[avengers]

Hello,
Reading a few articles, I believe it seems kako is starting to climb up draft boards.
Looking at the amount of players Richmond are going to lose and the draft picks we’ll get.
Just seeing your thoughts on

Richmond Give 14 and 32, 42, 44, 60, 69

For pick 9

Essentially trading out 5 picks that we won’t use for a 5 pick upgrade and giving you guys plenty of points to match an early bid on kako whilst still having a top 15 pick.

 

[Bjchan13]

850k+ is a large range

It was assumed by many that reported it that Band 1 would require atleast a 9 in front of it

They lobbied hard for band 1. They wouldnt have if they thought it was pointless

I must have missed the lobby. All i heard was people claim a bnf speech from the president changed the compensation for Battle.

 

[Bjchan13]

Hello,
Reading a few articles, I believe it seems kako is starting to climb up draft boards.
Looking at the amount of players Richmond are going to lose and the draft picks we’ll get.
Just seeing your thoughts on

Richmond Give 14 and 32, 42, 44, 60, 69

For pick 9

Essentially trading out 5 picks that we won’t use for a 5 pick upgrade and giving you guys plenty of points to match an early bid on kako whilst still having a top 15 pick.

 

[avengers]

Fair enough,
Out of curiosity what would you do if a bid came for kako at the saints pick 8?
My scenario would allow you guys to match that bid, whilst also getting pick 14 and keeping pick 31.
Vs
If saints bid on Kako,
You burn pick 9 and drop from 31 to 35.
What would you prefer?

 

[Foxx]

Fair enough,
Out of curiosity what would you do if a bid came for kako at the saints pick 8?
My scenario would allow you guys to match that bid, whilst also getting pick 14 and keeping pick 31.
Vs
If saints bid on Kako,
You burn pick 9 and drop from 31 to 35.
What would you prefer?

I'd say we'd have a plan to live trade pick 9 if a bid came in before 9. I don't see any sense to trade it before that point.

 

[jdstorm]

Fair enough,
Out of curiosity what would you do if a bid came for kako at the saints pick 8?
My scenario would allow you guys to match that bid, whilst also getting pick 14 and keeping pick 31.
Vs
If saints bid on Kako,
You burn pick 9 and drop from 31 to 35.
What would you prefer?

Thing is pick 14 would get burnt in this trade as points matching goes sequentially from best pick so we’d have to have 14 for a future first lined up.

We’d also need another trade for 28 at the same time.

In theory it’s pretty good value but the way points matching works I don’t think it’s the right deal

 

[Keystone agony]

I must have missed the lobby. All i heard was people claim a bnf speech from the president changed the compensation for Battle.

Maybe go re watch what the coach also said

Ive already said it though, not long ago here

 

[Keystone agony]

Fair enough,
Out of curiosity what would you do if a bid came for kako at the saints pick 8?
My scenario would allow you guys to match that bid, whilst also getting pick 14 and keeping pick 31.
Vs
If saints bid on Kako,
You burn pick 9 and drop from 31 to 35.
What would you prefer?

Id expect us to hold pick 9 and 31 till draft night and have plans to trade out if a bid comes before 9

Many teams i suspect will be pretty enticed to get pick 9

It would be interesting if the suns decided to come back in before Lombard with an F1

Absolute worst case scenario is Brisbane will give their F1

 

[Cup_o_Jobe]

Best case scenario (with a good dose of nuff-nuff) trade week plan:

• Laverde to Saints for 46 (can cover the Battle-sized hole until Van Es is ready to step up)
• Stringer, Shiel and 31 to GWS for 21 and Stone
• F2 to Hawks for Maginness

Net Result:

Shiel gets a chance at some more AFL footy in a side that is contending, and we get Stringer and Lav (who have clearly been marked for the exit door this year or next) off the books now to free up list space. GWS have picks (and list spots) to spare this year and I can see Jake being a very handy weapon sitting alongside Toby and Hogan. Might give them that p.o.d. that's held them back in recent years from finishing the job.

We get in two hard-edged types who can't crack their current best 23 outfits but would be every chance of doing so here, in Maginness and Stone. I'm increasingly of the view that Maginness (despite being mid/fwd in the hawks VFL team) could be the Kelly upgrade for us down back, and just monster an opposition small each week. Don't need to kick well if your job is simply to maul a bloke for 80 minutes.

We take 9, 21 and 46 to draft. Maybe we get lucky and Kako slides which means we effectively pick 3 first rounders. In the more likely event the bid comes top 20, we either use 21 to absorb the bid and prevent a 2025 points deficit, or we pre-arrange a trade-back with someone (ideally involving getting a F2 back into our 2025 hand).

 

[Bjchan13]

Maybe go re watch what the coach also said

Ive already said it though, not long ago here

No i wont be doing that

 

[Bjchan13]

Fair enough,
Out of curiosity what would you do if a bid came for kako at the saints pick 8?
My scenario would allow you guys to match that bid, whilst also getting pick 14 and keeping pick 31.
Vs
If saints bid on Kako,
You burn pick 9 and drop from 31 to 35.
What would you prefer?

Live trade for an F1 or let them have him. Depends who is still on the board at that stage and what picks we have after the trade period.

 

[FootyGuru]

So this is what it feels like having a top nga prospect. Expect more posters trying to help our club with bad trade deals.

I’d love us to try and get another top 20 pick, but it seems no one at essendon wants to trade parish or Langford and they don’t want to leave.

From what I’ve seen in an open draft kako isn’t in the top 15, especially with his late season injury.

Pretty confident we get him and someone before him

 

[Yoda_]

Best case scenario (with a good dose of nuff-nuff) trade week plan:

• Laverde to Saints for 46 (can cover the Battle-sized hole until Van Es is ready to step up)
• Stringer, Shiel and 31 to GWS for 21 and Stone
• F2 to Hawks for Maginness

Van Es delisted

 

[ant555]

Hello,
Reading a few articles, I believe it seems kako is starting to climb up draft boards.
Looking at the amount of players Richmond are going to lose and the draft picks we’ll get.
Just seeing your thoughts on

Richmond Give 14 and 32, 42, 44, 60, 69

For pick 9

Essentially trading out 5 picks that we won’t use for a 5 pick upgrade and giving you guys plenty of points to match an early bid on kako whilst still having a top 15 pick.

Others would not but it is not all that crazy in my view if our guys think Kako is "the guy" they really want and rate as the top pick . Not sure we will have the list spots for 60 & 69 but ending up with 14 - our pick 29 - 32-42-44 is not a bad draft haul in this draft.

 

[Snake Charmer]

...not you, Essendon.

Didn’t we get one for Daniher when the deal was less than what band one compo should have been?

 

[ant555]

Didn’t we get one for Daniher when the deal was less than what band one compo should have been?

Think the deal with Joe was we got band 1 because the Lions made sure they offered the big deal and then a couple of years later they renegotiated with Joe to cut some to clear some cap space. The initial offer was not band 1 from memory but it was raised.

 

[Corleone]

...not you, Essendon.

I'm not ever one to stand up for the AFL, but it's actually our fault for signing average players on generous contracts instead of letting them leave. If Battle played for us he'd be getting a 5 (actually 6) year deal on ridiculous money.

We could had the option to rebalance the list in the last couple of years by taking FA compo for both Parish and McGrath and instead we've hamstrung ourselves. Again.

It's past time we start being strategic at the draft and trade table. I'm hoping that now Rosa is in charge we can start to become a professional organisation.

 

[Yoda_]

seeing the compo picks handed out, we really have missed the trick by not only losing out on hypothetical (bands 1/2) picks but tying down b grade players and paying them like they are stars

really shows the incompetence of the previous regime in charge of list management and contracts #legacy

 

[Andronicus]

Surely a more fair (clearly not an AFL priority) would be that first round is unaffected by compo, and it becomes and end of first round, plus R2 or R3 to make the points equivalent. That is if the AFL actually believe their points system is as accurate as they say it is.

 

[Lore]

Surely a more fair (clearly not an AFL priority) would be that first round is unaffected by compo, and it becomes and end of first round, plus R2 or R3 to make the points equivalent. That is if the AFL actually believe their points system is as accurate as they say it is.

The points system is the best they can do in terms of a check and balance on pick-only trades (they’ve just changed it for 2025 onwards so there’s only points in the first 3 rounds and the 2nd/3rd rounds are less valuable).

Its not actually a good system for deciding equivalence of talent because you can’t use points to bid on players in the open pool, like an auction or something.


What they could potentially do is upgrade picks instead of adding them. e.g. pick 25 has 1000 points added to it and moves into the middle of the first round.


I think if they make it so there’s no compensation in the first round, free agency would basically become unavailable for highly paid players short of Buddy Franklin sized contracts. No club would let a good player leave the club that way for pick 19+, so you’d have a lot more match and trade going on (unless the destination is the premier and pick 18 is all you could be getting anyway).

 

[Yoda_]

The points system is the best they can do in terms of a check and balance on pick-only trades (they’ve just changed it for 2025 onwards so there’s only points in the first 3 rounds and the 2nd/3rd rounds are less valuable).

Its not actually a good system for deciding equivalence of talent because you can’t use points to bid on players in the open pool, like an auction or something.


What they could potentially do is upgrade picks instead of adding them. e.g. pick 25 has 1000 points added to it and moves into the middle of the first round.


I think if they make it so there’s no compensation in the first round, free agency would basically become unavailable for highly paid players short of Buddy Franklin sized contracts. No club would let a good player leave the club that way for pick 19+, so you’d have a lot more match and trade going on (unless the destination is the premier and pick 18 is all you could be getting anyway).

that's a good idea

 

[ant555]

The points system is the best they can do in terms of a check and balance on pick-only trades (they’ve just changed it for 2025 onwards so there’s only points in the first 3 rounds and the 2nd/3rd rounds are less valuable).

Its not actually a good system for deciding equivalence of talent because you can’t use points to bid on players in the open pool, like an auction or something.


What they could potentially do is upgrade picks instead of adding them. e.g. pick 25 has 1000 points added to it and moves into the middle of the first round.


I think if they make it so there’s no compensation in the first round, free agency would basically become unavailable for highly paid players short of Buddy Franklin sized contracts. No club would let a good player leave the club that way for pick 19+, so you’d have a lot more match and trade going on (unless the destination is the premier and pick 18 is all you could be getting anyway).

Like the idea but as far as FA goes it would only make RFA harder as clubs would most likely match more. There would still be unrestricted free agents willing to move in my opinion.

 

[ghostdog]

If Stringer goes to GWS, their forwardline looks like this;

Cadman Hogan Stringer
Green Daniels Jones.

Put that in context with the quality of delivery going in, that they're in their premiership window and their need to capitalise on Green and Hogan before they hit retirement age around the corner, and Stringer should be an enticing player for them.

He also loves big moments. Put him in a prelim.

Jake, you know you want glory. Go get it.

 

[Lore]

Like the idea but as far as FA goes it would only make RFA harder as clubs would most likely match more. There would still be unrestricted free agents willing to move in my opinion.

Yeah unrestricted and delisted free agents will still move, heaps of them already do.