I don't know how they will survive, they're already in dire financial straits and with no sport for 2020 subscribers and advertisers are going to be fleeing like rats
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I don't know how they will survive, they're already in dire financial straits and with no sport for 2020 subscribers and advertisers are going to be fleeing like rats
Dont think the debt is the problem, but the other two definitely. Plus add in the obvious non existent contingency plan from the AFL Exec.
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Very true. I think the players have valid queries but their public utterances are so consistently hopeless that they always lose the PR battle.
They needed to emphasise the plight of the lowest-paid players - there was a lengthy post here about that under these cuts a few players would get less than unemployment benefits. Doing that, plus emphasising that Gil's initial pay cut was far less than what he was asking the players, would have been much more effective.
Instead, it's been varied gripes from some of the most well-paid players, with predictable results.
PR battles like this aren't impossible to win - the Australian cricketers went on strike a couple of years ago and easily won the PR battle over CA - but the AFLPA fail every time.
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Have never felt less interested in the game tbh. Who wants to watch these selfish campaigners? Disgusting that the AFL folded on this. They’re on 50% wage to literally sit at home...
For all the PR ineptitude of the AFLPA, a deal was always going to be reached quickly.
Dolts in the media like Sam McClure always breathlessly hype these battles up with comments like "there's genuine bad blood between the AFL and the AFLPA", "Gil off the record is furious with the players", etc... and then a deal gets done not long after.
Dolts in the media like Sam McClure always breathlessly hype these battles up with comments like "there's genuine bad blood between the AFL and the AFLPA", "Gil off the record is furious with the players", etc... and then a deal gets done not long after.
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50% for 2 months then 70%
No where near enough
Selfless.
SELFLESS!
SELFLESS!
UPDATE: Pay cut deal ensures 'certainty' in AFL industry: AFLPA
Landmark decision allows for matches to return after coronavirus crisis
50% for 2 months then 70%
No where near enough
Is that 70% cut or they'll get paid 70%?
50% pay cut for April and May.
70% cut IF matches aren't played from June. So effectively they still get 30% for doing nothing, which is very good considering they will be taxed a lot less.
Still too much. I'd take it and run if I was them.
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I guess the AFL folded after Jack Riewoldt called in the debt that was owed after he reminding all and sundry of incredible sacrifices that the players made participating in the bushfire appeal game.
So very brave.
So very brave.
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They are putting their bodies on the line !
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Wouldn't say nothing when they put in months of prep in the preseason.
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My heart goes out to the players and as such I feel a collection to subsidise their pay cut is warranted. I’m going to start with the hospitality sector to see what they would like to donate. If any of you would like to donate to this worthy cause please let me know. If you could please find it within yourself to dig deep.. the players need you during this tough time.
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The AFL and the clubs must be flush with cash if they cannot afford to pay the players that.
People need to look after them selves now. Get ya membership money back if things are tight or uncertain.
People need to look after them selves now. Get ya membership money back if things are tight or uncertain.
They have already been paid in full up until now.
Prep for who?
I haven't read all the discussion here, but I seem to be in a minority elsewhere that believes the players getting paid something is fair. If you or I get laid off from our jobs in this time then our employer is unlikely to have any work for our downtime (I got put on 'indefinite hiatus' last week and I definitely don't) so I'm going to be playing guitar and hanging out with the kids for months. But the players are still going to have to train (most likely to some sort of club program like pre-season) and are 3-4 months in their contracts already including pre-season.
So whilst I'm not saying Dusty or Buddy should get their full 7 figures, it makes sense that if they're being expected to train/keep up any media commitments etc during suspension of play that there should be some pay. Just how much is debatable though, and the end figure probably depends on how much more of the season can be played (much like how the deal they struck is structured but not necessarily those figures).
Just my thoughts though.
So whilst I'm not saying Dusty or Buddy should get their full 7 figures, it makes sense that if they're being expected to train/keep up any media commitments etc during suspension of play that there should be some pay. Just how much is debatable though, and the end figure probably depends on how much more of the season can be played (much like how the deal they struck is structured but not necessarily those figures).
Just my thoughts though.
They train what 2 hrs per day tops, people do that for a hobby!!
All of the poor club staff who were given the flick or stood down without pay must be absolutely filthy.
The execs like Gil are actually working ridiculous hours at the moment, going from crisis meeting to the next. Club execs trying to ensure they have enough cash flow to save off insolvency.
Meanwhile the players sit at home making Instagram videos and are still getting paid a stupid wage considering their is no income coming to AFL or clubs.
I would hope these cuts are scaled, as in the lower paid players get a lower % cut.
They’ve been paid in full to the end of March. They already have 40% of their contracts paid.
they have been rewarded for the training.
And the AFL have been hit at the worst possible time of the year. Rd 1 and absolutely $0 income generated.
Hey, football is a business after all.
I don't know why either party was negotiating, if I was the AFLPA I'd demand 100% pay, if I was the AFL I'd simply be refusing to pay them a cent.
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