All Australian Team 2016

[Jobe Watson]

Number one in the league for centre clearances, 3rd for clearances, 3rd for contested possessions, top 20 in tackles.

I'd say he's deserving.

Did stuff all when Melbourne lost to Essendon. Josh Kennedy has similar stats (except Kennedy isn't top 3 in the league for turnovers) and I wouldn't say he's been top 4 either.

But again, Viney has been very good and I'm not talking him down, deserves to be in the All-Australian team currently - I just think guys like Parker, Dangerfield, Selwood, Hannebery, Franklin have been a little better.

 

[Trav 20]

Did stuff all when Melbourne lost to Essendon. Josh Kennedy has similar stats (except Kennedy isn't top 3 in the league for turnovers) and I wouldn't say he's been top 4 either.

But again, Viney has been very good and I'm not talking him down, deserves to be in the All-Australian team currently - I just think guys like Parker, Dangerfield, Selwood, Hannebery, Franklin have been a little better.

That was his one and only bad game.

So yes, that explains your myopic view of footy.

 

[Jobe Watson]

That was his one and only bad game.

So yes, that explains your myopic view of footy.

I just don't think you can handle someone thinking that the sun doesn't shine out of Viney's clacker.

I've already said multiple times he's been very good this season and that he deserves his current AA spot. 2nd in the league for clangers which isn't great, but otherwise he's been very good. I just think a couple of other mids have been better. Simples.

 

[Kickin_Goals]

Come on now people, you have to have Pittard in every team. This coming from an Adelaide supporter.

Montagna would be the best performed half backman going though.

Gawn is now easily best ruck on the back of another monster performance while his rivals were all quite poor.

Someone suggested Levi ****ing Casboult lel.

 

[bird_man]

Come on now people, you have to have Pittard in every team. This coming from an Adelaide supporter.

Montagna would be the best performed half backman going though.

Gawn is now easily best ruck on the back of another monster performance while his rivals were all quite poor.

Someone suggested Levi ******* Casboult lel.

Goldstein was far from poor

 

[A Swallow]

Goldstein was far from poor

Was about to say this. He has set himself epic standards, but 17 disposals (9 contested), 9 score involvements, 35 hitouts, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 4 clearances & 4 inside 50's is still a good game.

 

[kade]

I think Ziebell is is having a great year. I did find it weird that he got interchanged in the last 2 minutes on the weekend when the game was on the line tho

 

[Topkent]

I just don't think you can handle someone thinking that the sun doesn't shine out of Viney's clacker.

I've already said multiple times he's been very good this season and that he deserves his current AA spot. 2nd in the league for clangers which isn't great, but otherwise he's been very good. I just think a couple of other mids have been better. Simples.

Clangers stat is the biggest misrepresentation. .. Gary Ablett was in the top 5 for clangers one year it's the nature of being a ball winner

 

[Trav 20]

I just don't think you can handle someone thinking that the sun doesn't shine out of Viney's clacker.

I've already said multiple times he's been very good this season and that he deserves his current AA spot. 2nd in the league for clangers which isn't great, but otherwise he's been very good. I just think a couple of other mids have been better. Simples.

I know who's simples.

I just assess the facts.

Btw, you'll find the best players every year are near the top of the tree for clangers. If you're judging footballers on clangers you ought give up watching the game.

 

[Tippett2Goal]

Would the league's number 1 clearance player and number 2 contested possession player be a sniff of making the squad?

Frankly yes, but it happened last year to Josh Kennedy (Syd), so it doesnt seem that strong contested play is enough to make the team.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Frankly yes, but it happened last year to Josh Kennedy (Syd), so it doesnt seem that strong contested play is enough to make the team.

Given Priddis also has been at the top for the last few years and only made one AA it's not unusual. Though doesn't mean it's entirely right.

 

[Wild Bill]

Come on now people, you have to have Pittard in every team. This coming from an Adelaide supporter.

Montagna would be the best performed half backman going though.

Gawn is now easily best ruck on the back of another monster performance while his rivals were all quite poor.

Someone suggested Levi ******* Casboult lel.

Agree Gawn is now number 1 - Goldy was one of the best players on the ground V the Saints.

 

[Wild Bill]

I think Ziebell is is having a great year. I did find it weird that he got interchanged in the last 2 minutes on the weekend when the game was on the line tho

Wells was fresh - made two big smoothers. Its was the right move.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Top rated players for the year so far from AFL Player Ratings

 

[Theprofessional]

Rampe only defender in that list? Cool.

 

[Jobe Watson]

Clangers stat is the biggest misrepresentation. .. Gary Ablett was in the top 5 for clangers one year it's the nature of being a ball winner

I agree the clanger stats needs to be shown in context. It does just show the total of turnovers and unforced mistakes that a player makes. The year Gary Ablett was 2nd for clangers he was averaging 32 disposals a game, so far chance a few of them would be turnovers.

Other top line, high-possession mids this year such as Hannebery, Dangerfield and Parker are way down the list for clangers, and along with Selwood I all think they've had better years so far than Viney (and not just because of their clanger rankings).

I know who's simples.

I just assess the facts.

More like you only agree with the facts that make Viney look good.

I really don't know why you're having such a hard time accepting someone else's opinion that Viney hasn't been the 4th best player this year (which was the original point of discussion). AFL Player Ratings and ChampionData ranking points don't even have him in the top 10.

 

[Trav 20]

I really don't know why you're having such a hard time accepting someone else's opinion that Viney hasn't been the 4th best player this year (which was the original point of discussion). AFL Player Ratings and ChampionData ranking points don't even have him in the top 10.

The ratings that have Bontempelli ranked higher this year ? Even his own supporters acknowledge he's had a slow start.

Btw, you said 4th best mid, not 4th best player. Besides, Viney doesn't have to be 4th best mid to make the team.

Imo, and you may disagree, centre clearances are just about the most valuable stat in the game. I guess you know who number one is.

I have no problem with you not having him at the pointy end, but when you justify it by mentioning the Essendon game it makes you look as though you're lacking perspective.

 

[Jobe Watson]

Btw, you said 4th best mid, not 4th best player. Besides, Viney doesn't have to be 4th best mid to make the team.

Imo, and you may disagree, centre clearances are just about the most valuable stat in the game. I guess you know who number one is.

I have no problem with you not having him at the pointy end, but when you justify it by mentioning the Essendon game it makes you look as though you're lacking perspective.

I originally said 4th best player as it was in relation to the coaches votes.

I just think that Dangerfield, Parker, Franklin, Selwood and Hannebery (in that order) have been the best players this year, and Viney enters the discussion after that. That's no slight on Viney either - I'd have him in my current AA team.

 

[Kickin_Goals]

Rampe only defender in that list? Cool.

It's purely stats
Here is his SEN rating which is pretty good for a defender, so far, he's doing better then McGovern and Tarrant.
Seems he might be playing loose man a bit though, very good in 4 games.
2016 Season
1 Coll Did a good job on Fasolo to keep him to just one goal after a big summer. 7
2 Carl Like most teammates has started the year brilliantly. Super down back. 7
3 GWS Rebounded well out of the backline and got in the right spots, finishing with 10 marks. 5
4 Adel Unusually had the job on Walker and was combative throughout. 7
5 WCE Handy in defence early but not so prominent later on. 5
6 Bris Used as a loose man in defence, picking up a number of unguarded touches. 6
7 Ess Rebounded well of the backline, but was just beaten by Brown. 4

 

[Sttew]

Top rated players for the year so far from AFL Player Ratings

How are these listings worked out? These statistics are a joke. Here is the current 2016 AFL Schick Player Ratings. Nat Fyffe No 1? Pft!!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

How are these listings worked out? These statistics are a joke. Here is the current 2016 AFL Schick Player Ratings. Nat Fyffe No 1? Pft!!

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You could read up on how the calculate it. It isn't hard.

Fyfe is number 1 because it's over a rolling period, of greater than 1 year, so sustained success leads to a higher rating on the overall rankings....

 

[Sttew]

You could read up on how the calculate it. It isn't hard.

Fyfe is number 1 because it's over a rolling period, of greater than 1 year, so sustained success leads to a higher rating on the overall rankings....

You told me what I neede to know!

 

[Bardo State]

How are these listings worked out? These statistics are a joke. Here is the current 2016 AFL Schick Player Ratings. Nat Fyffe No 1? Pft!!

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It takes into account a players' top 40 games in the last 2 years. So Fyfe would still have a shitload of points from his early 2015 form.

 

[Donakebab]

The ratings that have Bontempelli ranked higher this year ? Even his own supporters acknowledge he's had a slow start.

Btw, you said 4th best mid, not 4th best player. Besides, Viney doesn't have to be 4th best mid to make the team.

Imo, and you may disagree, centre clearances are just about the most valuable stat in the game. I guess you know who number one is.

I have no problem with you not having him at the pointy end, but when you justify it by mentioning the Essendon game it makes you look as though you're lacking perspective.

Carlton finishing 2nd for average centre clearances last year shows they are just another arbitrary statistic.

 

[Sprout]

Carlton finishing 2nd for average centre clearances last year shows they are just another arbitrary statistic.

Centre clearances can be pretty handy when you have forward line to kick it to.