All Australian Team discussion 2007

[Smell The Glove]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

oh yeah we stuffed up we have no depth left now boohoo good to see hes winning games for you mob and such.you are a ass clown. we couldnt give two shits.

Ahh, nice to see the arrogance down in Bum ****, Victoria is alive and well!

And how many premierships have you won in the last 40 odd years?

 

[RoK]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

Ahh, so you think that the Gods down Geelong way cant do no wrong I see. If he gets rejected by you then he must be crap.

Fact is, Geelong stuffed up in getting rid of this bloke, and credit must be given to Carlton for picking him up and persisting with him.

I say he would be in a group of players that could get AA selection, depends on how he closes the season out.

(And he isnt a good former Geelong player, he is a good current Carlton player. Nothing to do with Geelong now)

From what i here people down a geelong rang pepole at Carlton and said this kid could make it and is a guy who gives 110% he is worth the pick up.I think Geelong helped us out because of the type of quality guy he is.

 

[RoK]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

oh yeah we stuffed up we have no depth left now boohoo good to see hes winning games for you mob and such.you are a ass clown. we couldnt give two shits.

Mate no need to show what a clown you are.

 

[Eagle87]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Foley over Judd. Judd hasn't made much impact compared to last year because of injury but Foley has done lots for Richmond during this horrible year and has been consistent all the time. Besides, Judd is being over Shadowed by Kerr and Cousins.

Judd is being overshadowed by a bloke who has played 2 games and another bloke who apparently had a crap period from about Round 4 to Round 14?



Seriously, look at his stats and his impact on games. Judd was outstanding until the Essednon game (Round 11) and was leading the Brownlow at that stage. Since then, in 6 rounds, he has missed 2 with injury, had 1 shocker (Port) when he couldnt run and has a strong chance at votes in all 3 of the other games. He certainly has been a clearance machine in the last 2 games.

Most people have the attention span of gnats and the analytical skills of David Schwartz.

Judd has been very good this season and frankly he remains owed an AA for being ridiculously left out in 2005 when presumably again he was (a) judged against his own standard and (b) judged unfairly because he plays away from Victoria. Over the wholeseason, Judd has been in the best 4 or 5 players, has he been better than Foley? This is a joke question right?

 

[bellzy]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

And how many premierships have you won in the last 40 odd years?

Ahh, the age old "We're failing now, so will revert back to the past for some self esteem" trick. Nicely played.

Carrazzo has been very good this year, but not AA form. As many have pointed out, plenty ahead of him. Nothing more than a solid player who gets plenty of it.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

Ahh, the age old "We're failing now, so will revert back to the past for some self esteem" trick. Nicely played.

At least we have a past to fall back on. Arrogance just looks sad until you have actually achieved something. Geelong have achieved sweet **** all.

 

[bigdroppunt]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

At least we have a past to fall back on. Arrogance just looks sad until you have actually achieved something. Geelong have achieved sweet **** all.

that its matey just keep living in the past. enjoy the rest of the year tanker.

 

[wce4premiership]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

Boys got talent, good to see something working for carlton.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

that its matey just keep living in the past. enjoy the rest of the year tanker.

At least the past is reality. You morons are living in a fantasy world of games that havent even been played yet.

 

[Wing Commander]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Is Judd on the tips of everyones tongue simply because his name is Judd?

Umm no. Did you even watch the Weagles play the Dogs? Judd is still better than Foley, even on one leg.

 

[blues4flag]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Lack of consistency?? Show me where.

Round 15 against the Power he was clearly struggling by injury. He had only 20 touches against Sydney but kicked 2 goals and his clearance work was awesome. Same against the Doggies, he had 21 touches 2 goals but his work at the stoppages was fantastic.

Stats aren't everything. Going by that argument, Carrazzo and Kane Cornes are a shoe-in. Fact is, since his groin, Judd has had far less of an impact then he'd have if he's fully fit. Still finding the ball well enough, however is no where as damaging without that explosive burst.

 

[gandaal]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

At least the past is reality. You morons are living in a fantasy world of games that havent even been played yet.

GOLD

 

[bigdroppunt]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

At least the past is reality. You morons are living in a fantasy world of games that havent even been played yet.

mate i can see why you would be pissed off if my team was in a position were its not in our best interest to win another game i'd want to kill myself too.

 

[Underdog]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Stats aren't everything. Going by that argument, Carrazzo and Kane Cornes are a shoe-in. Fact is, since his groin, Judd has had far less of an impact then he'd have if he's fully fit. Still finding the ball well enough, however is no where as damaging without that explosive burst.

Yet he has still had a big impact. His lack of explosiveness is countered by his scoring of goals

 

[Smell The Glove]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

mate i can see why you would be pissed off if my team was in a position were its not in our best interest to win another game i'd want to kill myself too.

In 1964 did your club decide it wasnt in their best interest to win another premiership that century?

 

[Butera]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

mate i can see why you would be pissed off if my team was in a position were its not in our best interest to win another game i'd want to kill myself too.

just enjoy your premature exit in the finals, finals football is different to the regular season and we all know you hand baggers crumble when it gets tough.

West coast will ramp you, your midfield simply is just not good enough no matter how good they perform against bottom sides.

Anyway as this is about Carrazzo and not Geelong ill at least have some input about the topic, if he can get around the 30+ for the rest of the year then he is a real shot, his chances are 50/50 atm id say.

 

[Unwritten_Law]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

Carrazzo has done very well this season.

It raises a question of Carlton though. If their second tier players are doing well this year (Carrazzo, Simpson, Fisher etc.) they are going to be spending a bloody long (longer) time down at the bottom.

Fevola can obviously produce more, Murphy and Gibbs will step up to very good and are then likely to join the elite players in the comp - that's basically over a 5 year timeframe if you take say Bartel and Ablett as guides who were drafted in 01 - and then there is Waite who shows a fair bit. Any more potential A graders? Shocking, shocking list.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Lack of consistency?? Show me where.

Round 15 against the Power he was clearly struggling by injury. He had only 20 touches against Sydney but kicked 2 goals and his clearance work was awesome. Same against the Doggies, he had 21 touches 2 goals but his work at the stoppages was fantastic.

Hasn't done much since the halfway. Can you get an AA spot on the strength of half a season? Don't like Foley's chances either.

 

[Underdog]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Hasn't done much since the halfway. Can you get an AA spot on the strength of half a season? Don't like Foley's chances either.

He hasn't been his sensational self but has still been very good

 

[blues4flag]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Yet he has still had a big impact. His lack of explosiveness is countered by his scoring of goals

He's been good, no doubting that, but he hasn't done enough to deserve an AA spot.

FWIW, at the moment I'd have:
Ablett
Kerr
Harvey
Chad Cornes
Bartel
Scott Thompson
Sam Mitchell

as the AA midfielders.

 

[gandaal]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

Carrazzo has done very well this season.

It raises a question of Carlton though. If their second tier players are doing well this year (Carrazzo, Simpson, Fisher etc.) they are going to be spending a bloody long (longer) time down at the bottom.

Fevola can obviously produce more, Murphy and Gibbs will step up to very good and are then likely to join the elite players in the comp - that's basically over a 5 year timeframe if you take say Bartel and Ablett as guides who were drafted in 01 - and then there is Waite who shows a fair bit. Any more potential A graders? Shocking, shocking list.

Nick Stevens anyone? Whitnall is still 27 too.

Besides the Carlton side on the weekend was the youngest team in almost 40 years. Not many teams running around have an average age of 22. The kids have a fair bit of improvement in them.

 

[Alphanumeric]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Foley over Judd. Judd hasn't made much impact compared to last year because of injury but Foley has done lots for Richmond during this horrible year and has been consistent all the time. Besides, Judd is being over Shadowed by Kerr and Cousins.

Before I say you have absolutely no idea I want to ask you a question.

How many WCE games have you watched this season??

 

[Underdog]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

He's been good, no doubting that, but he hasn't done enough to deserve an AA spot.

FWIW, at the moment I'd have:
Ablett
Kerr
Harvey
Chad Cornes
Bartel
Scott Thompson
Sam Mitchell

as the AA midfielders.

Id have him over Kerr I think

 

[Smell The Glove]

Re: Carrazzo a possible AA candidate?

Carrazzo has done very well this season.

It raises a question of Carlton though. If their second tier players are doing well this year (Carrazzo, Simpson, Fisher etc.) they are going to be spending a bloody long (longer) time down at the bottom.

Fevola can obviously produce more, Murphy and Gibbs will step up to very good and are then likely to join the elite players in the comp - that's basically over a 5 year timeframe if you take say Bartel and Ablett as guides who were drafted in 01 - and then there is Waite who shows a fair bit. Any more potential A graders? Shocking, shocking list.

Simpson has struggled this year IMO and is capable of far more. Fisher has been serviceable but inconsistent and Walker (injured ATM) hasn't been up to scratch either. Murphy and Gibbs are still both in the infancy of their careers. Waite goes from very good to terrible very easily and Fevola, as you point out, hasn't had a very good year. With Stevens back, we will be better next year. There is enough talent to suggest we should be challenging for finals by 2009, with the right coaching and facilities.

 

[Alphanumeric]

Re: AA Selection. Foley or Judd?

Stats aren't everything. Going by that argument, Carrazzo and Kane Cornes are a shoe-in. Fact is, since his groin, Judd has had far less of an impact then he'd have if he's fully fit. Still finding the ball well enough, however is no where as damaging without that explosive burst.

I never said stats were everything. But they do give you a pretty good idea how a midfielder is traveling.