All Elite Wrestling

[Nugett]

I tend to disagree with most of this. Respectfully of course.

I love AEW but it wasn't until Punk and Danielson were part of it that I purchased the Fite app to watch every week. Once I started watching regularly I also realised how FTR are the best tag team in the world and it isn't close IMO.

What drew me in at the beginning was the 'sugar hit' of watching Kenny, The Bucks, Sammy Guevara etc flying around having crazy matches. It felt so fresh compared to how stagnate WWE had become. But as time went on I realised there wasn't as much substance to that style and it only has so much longevity.

The style of wrestling you see from Punk, Danielson, Jericho, FTR etc is based on fundamental principles. It will last forever because it always has. If you lose somebody like Punk (who has been proven to move the needle) and focus on the Elite universe I worry AEW won't be a legitimate alternative in 5 years time.

In saying all of this, I absolutely love the buffet style offerings AEW provides. I'm firmly in the camp that believes Punk is THE guy to build it around. It's just unfortunate that it's looking likely that they all can't co-exist long term.

I agree with most of this. What Punk, Danielson, Jericho, FTR, bring is psychology, they are telling a story, which makes you more invested. What the Elite and some other talent like Swerve and Dante Martin do is entertaining in its own right, but it doesn’t elicit the same emotional response as the story tellers do, it’s one of the main reasons that I loved watching Bret Hart growing up, everything he did in his matches made sense.

I think things will get sorted, I can’t see it becoming HBK/Bret Hart levels where some one(s) have to leave.

 

[ULTIMATE_WARRIOR]

2021:
“I'm back because there's a hell of a lot of young talent that I wish I was surrounded by 10 years ago”

2022:
“I'm old and I'm tired and I work with children. I'm tired of wrestling these kids that think they know everything”


A year is a long time in wrestling

 

[Nugett]

if that’s true, then they got what they deserved. Punk saying the things he did publicly was not the most professional act. The YB kicking down his door, is way worse than Punk’s words in the scrum, and Punk and Steele have every right to defend themselves against hostile reactions.

 

[mickelboy182]

I can't believe people here are siding with Punk....

 

[GWBogan]

If no legs or thighs were slapped during the door kicking, I'd be very disappointed.

 

[Nugett]

I can't believe people here are siding with Punk....

Always 2 sides to a story, somewhere in between is the truth!

 

[Nicho50]

Said it before but the entire group of the EVPs were the fabric of this company. How good was the early PPVs and the buzz. It felt different and looked different personally since they signed Punk and a lot of other it’s gone downhill.

Sure the match quality is up there but it’s become so over crowded and for someone who was just coming in and having fun great to be back wrestle the kids etc it feels like the last 12 months has just been all about CM Punk.

He goes on a big winning streak not putting over any of the talent aside from MJF essentially.

Omegas run has been overlooked as everyone was looking at Punk going it’s only a matter of time before he’s champ.

If they wanted someone in that role it’s Danielson he’s been there a year and hasn’t been world champion which is ridiculous he’s the most over star they have on that roster.

They have MJF and Wardlow two guys who have the biggest potential between AEW and WWE to break out and become superstars and they have effectively become an afterthought to the CM Punk show.

MJF had his hottest moment of his career and within an hour Punk ripped it away from him with that rant that was unprofessional and am I right in that he brought it up not the “journos “ at the scrum.

I enjoy Kenny and not much of a Bucks fan but I’m siding with them on this.

 

[Millky95]

2021:
“I'm back because there's a hell of a lot of young talent that I wish I was surrounded by 10 years ago”

2022:
“I'm old and I'm tired and I work with children. I'm tired of wrestling these kids that think they know everything”


A year is a long time in wrestling

Tbf, I think by young talent he meant the MJFs, Sammys and Darbys of the world

I can't believe people here are siding with Punk....

Understanding is a 3 edged sword

 

[mickelboy182]

Always 2 sides to a story, somewhere in between is the truth!

He literally buried them in a media scrum where they couldn't defend themselves. The dude is a dick.

 

[RossFC]

I can't believe people here are siding with Punk....

I think there is value with everyone involved staying with the company, well maybe apart from Ace Steel, and if ROH gets up an running Colt Cabana can go there.

 

[mickelboy182]

I think there is value with everyone involved staying with the company, well maybe apart from Ace Steel, and if ROH gets up an running Colt Cabana can go there.

No doubt, just blows my mind people are upset with Kenny and the Bucks for getting absolutely and unprofessionally trashed on media street.

 

[Blackhawk42]

I can't believe people here are siding with Punk....

If this really did start with Page going into business for himself on LIVE TELEVISION without Punk knowing what was going on, all because he and the Bucks felt Punk was responsible for Cabana being 'demoted' to ROH, can you still really not believe that people are siding with him?

I'm not saying that what he said in the media scrum was the right way to go about it. It wasn't.

But there exists a possibility that Punk was retaliating to their unprofessionalism first, then was assaulted after having his locker room door kicked in.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but you shouldn't be so surprised.

 

[Nicho50]

what a crazy year it’s been.

Vince scandal and retires

12 months ago Punk Danielson and Cole debut. Punk compares it to Hogan Nash and Hall.

Jericho states Tony K will take over wrestling in north america

One of founding AEW members in Cody jumps ship.

Can’t believe that anyone would want Punk to stay over the Elite. Could you imagine the Elite leaving and say join WWE. You’d have the entire EVP guys gone working for the oppo and the guys who they defeated in the “War” being Cole KOR and Fish be on the other side ( Fish gone).

Not saying it’s going to happen but imagine if it did what a complete and utter spin out over 12 months.

 

[jabba5114]

I can't believe people here are siding with Punk....

Well he didn't really say anything incorrect. No opinion on the fight have no idea how it went down. And we will probably never know the truth tbh

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[Cleavy]

If no legs or thighs were slapped during the door kicking, I'd be very disappointed.

takes a lot of double team superkicks to kick down a locked door, I'd imagine.

 

[mickelboy182]

Well he didn't really say anything incorrect. No opinion on the fight have no idea how it went down. And we will probably never know the truth tbh

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That doesn't make it any less unprofessional.

 

[Cleavy]

Most disappointing thing is MJF had his moment and its been overshadowed by this instead of the focus being on him its well and truly on Punk.

now he knows how Wardlow felt...

 

[Nugett]

He literally buried them in a media scrum where they couldn't defend themselves. The dude is a dick.

i agree that it was unprofessional. There is obviously some issues back stage, that is now seeping out. There has been reports much earlier than Punk’s arrival of the EVP’s losing creative control, a power struggle between Cody and the others, among other stories. So the Bucks and Kenny being dicks backstage is also plausible.

Punk has always aired his frustrations, it’s a part of his appeal, that he can be a bit of a drama queen. I think at times he does need to pull his head in, and try to sort the issues behind closed doors. Obviously there are a lot of issues between Cabana and Punk still, which seems to be the main catalyst.

 

[RossFC]

Regal is so nuts, I love it.

 

[msrhiiii]

I actually hate how this has overshadowed MJF's return. How very uncool.

 

[jabba5114]

That doesn't make it any less unprofessional.

It would of come out eventually may as well do it there so aew get some coverage out of it. All news is good news

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[nobbyiscool]

Regal is so nuts, I love it.

Are they going to put the Excalibur/Regal make-out sesh on PPV or will they put it on Dynamite?

 

[Cleavy]

 

[Nicho50]

Backstage assaults aside why on earth is Claudio on dark wrestling Davari and not wrestling on dynamite

 

[Cleavy]

Backstage assaults aside why on earth is Claudio on dark wrestling Davari and not wrestling on dynamite

at least he's not stuck on Dark for all eternity like Emi Sakura

but she's enjoying the people and the catering, so there's that.