All Elite Wrestling

[nobbyiscool]

Kingston vs Bandido is a match I didn’t know I needed til I saw the brackets. I looked if it’s happened before, and it has, once - 13 years ago!

I have a horrible feeling that Page is coming out if that side though

 

[Ry009]

Yeah.

Actually not a bad bracket but is it too obvious it’s going to be Page vs Starks?

Is the assumption it will be MJF vs Page (as a flow on from the Firm storyline) at WIC?

 

[The Casey Cat]

Diehard originals answer me this.

How about you answer this - do you even watch it? Or do you just listen to a certain podcast from someone with farcical bias against the company and people in it from day one and come here to parrot the same crap?

AEW any better with the Elite on TV? Do you really think having 3 Ego driven children as EVPs is good for the company going forward?


Punk is a head case atleast he is a draw (which was proven) some of the best TV in the last 12 months has been because of Punk, MJF and The Acclaimed.

You just lost the companies biggest ever draw due to 3 little bitches and Tony who just let it all happen, people running a 7/11 would have more balls then Tony.

I'm sorry I must have missed the official confirmation of Punk's release/departure. Can you show me some evidence of it? At this point no one has been lost. All who were involved in the fight were suspended (including 3 people who apparently get away with everything). Interesting you mention the Acclaimed here too. Who more than anyone else thought they were worthwhile? Tony's undoubtedly made mistakes and needs help with booking but has made some good choices too, don't worry I won't expect you or the other time wasters who are only interested in talking negative, subjective, ignorant rubbish to ever give any credit for those.

Punk needs take responsibility but this all started with Hangman and The Elite talking s**t in regards to Colt they should be better and know better in the current positions of power.

Embarrassing.

Hangman shouldn't have done what he did in the promo. Punk had his response and made Hangman look awful (and you could say deservedly so). Issue over, or it should have been. But no, Punk has to hold on to it and be a pain in the backside about it and everything else and it's not the first time. He is amazingly good and they are better for having him. But he can't help himself but to be difficult pita.

 

[Ry009]

Yeah I think the whole Elite/Punk thing is a pretty nuanced and sad issue with a lot of competing egos.

Like anyone that stuffs up, you hope they learn from it and get better for it. That includes Tony, who at the very least did the right thing the next day.

Don't think anyone deserves to be demonised. Overly optimistic but I hope in time dust settles and they can eventually work together.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Yeah I think the whole Elite/Punk thing is a pretty nuanced and sad issue with a lot of competing egos.

Like anyone that stuffs up, you hope they learn from it and get better for it. That includes Tony, who at the very least did the right thing the next day.

Don't think anyone deserves to be demonised. Overly optimistic but I hope in time dust settles and they can eventually work together.

Absolutely. All have made mistakes and absolutely Tony let it get out of control. But there is still great opportunity and money to be made if they can somehow get over it and do what is best for their business (which means all of them still being featured).

 

[BEEG]

How about you answer this - do you even watch it? Or do you just listen to a certain podcast from someone with farcical bias against the company and people in it from day one and come here to parrot the same crap?



I'm sorry I must have missed the official confirmation of Punk's release/departure. Can you show me some evidence of it? At this point no one has been lost. All who were involved in the fight were suspended (including 3 people who apparently get away with everything). Interesting you mention the Acclaimed here too. Who more than anyone else thought they were worthwhile? Tony's undoubtedly made mistakes and needs help with booking but has made some good choices too, don't worry I won't expect you or the other time wasters who are only interested in talking negative, subjective, ignorant rubbish to ever give any credit for those.



Hangman shouldn't have done what he did in the promo. Punk had his response and made Hangman look awful (and you could say deservedly so). Issue over, or it should have been. But no, Punk has to hold on to it and be a pain in the backside about it and everything else and it's not the first time. He is amazingly good and they are better for having him. But he can't help himself but to be difficult pita.

I asked the question first Diehard.

AEW better with the Elite on TV? I don't have ask the question in regards to EVP because we know that answer.

 

[The Casey Cat]

I asked the question first Diehard.

AEW better with the Elite on TV? I don't have ask the question in regards to EVP because we know that answer.

How would you know if you don't even watch and wish to simply take the side of someone who will blindly hate them and everything they do no matter what?

Yes, regardless of their booking ideas or supposed EVP ineptitude they are absolutely better with them on TV than not. Whether you like them or their style or not anyone who thinks otherwise is absolutely kidding themselves.

 

[BEEG]

How would you know if you don't even watch and wish to simply take the side of someone who will blindly hate them and everything they do no matter what?

Yes, regardless of their booking ideas or supposed EVP ineptitude they are absolutely better with them on TV than not. Whether you like them or their style or not anyone who thinks otherwise is absolutely kidding themselves.

I watch most weeks or catch up on YouTube if I can't.

I watch WWE on Foxtel - Raw is a fast forward job, Smackdown gets most of my attention.

I guess only diehards who have positive things to say watch AEW.

I have plenty of negative things to say about WWE and it's funny all the AEW diehards hate Jim Cornette even though he has plenty to say about WWE and I don't see people complaining about Cornette in the WWE threads.

It's a real defensive attitude you all have.

 

[Cleavy]

I have plenty of negative things to say about WWE and it's funny all the AEW diehards hate Jim Cornette even though he has plenty to say about WWE and I don't see people complaining about Cornette in the WWE threads.

you never hear about what he hates about WWE, because his AEW rants get more publicity due to distasteful things said about its wrestlers.

 

[BEEG]

you never hear about what he hates about WWE, because his AEW rants get more publicity due to distasteful things said about its wrestlers.

My God listen to the man, he hates 75% of what WWE put on television.

 

[Shaxx Attaxx]

AEW better with the Elite on TV?

Yes

It's a real defensive attitude you all have.

Nope



Anyway, on the Cornette topic. I can honestly say I’ve listened to **** all Cornette podcasts/interviews. If he shits all over both products then that doesn’t entice me.

 

[The Casey Cat]

I watch most weeks or catch up on YouTube if I can't.

Fair enough.

I watch WWE on Foxtel - Raw is a fast forward job, Smackdown gets most of my attention.

Not really relevant here but ok.

I guess only diehards who have positive things to say watch AEW.

WTF does that even mean? 'Diehards' you seem to refe to here have been plenty critical of the product, TK and The Elite.

I have plenty of negative things to say about WWE and it's funny all the AEW diehards hate Jim Cornette even though he has plenty to say about WWE and I don't see people complaining about Cornette in the WWE threads.

I don't hate Jim. I actually agree with a lot of what he says and I wish he was still involved with wrestling somewhere. Yes he is negative about WWE. Who is saying he isn't? Apart from me, no one is complaining about what he says about AEW either. Not sure what you're on about here.

I personally don't care as much for his opinion on AEW as it comes from personal dislike of their people from his previous experiences. And he's entitled to have that. Doesn't mean I think everything they do is great or that they haven't put on a fair amount of rubbish in the past or lately. They absolutely have.

It's a real defensive attitude you all have.

A defensive attitude? Wishing/hoping that everyone involved work it out and be better for it? I'd say that's a better attitude than being on the extreme of taking Punk's side of the conflict only and cutting out key people the company wouldn't have started without.

 

[RossFC]

 

[Colonial]

I see this place hasn’t changed.

 

[BEEG]

What a load of drivel

Continues to stun me that, among conflicting accounts of what happened at all out, people who weren’t there want to try and speak by as authorities on it.

How about you answer this - do you even watch it? Or do you just listen to a certain podcast from someone with farcical bias against the company and people in it from day one and come here to parrot the same crap?



I'm sorry I must have missed the official confirmation of Punk's release/departure. Can you show me some evidence of it? At this point no one has been lost. All who were involved in the fight were suspended (including 3 people who apparently get away with everything). Interesting you mention the Acclaimed here too. Who more than anyone else thought they were worthwhile? Tony's undoubtedly made mistakes and needs help with booking but has made some good choices too, don't worry I won't expect you or the other time wasters who are only interested in talking negative, subjective, ignorant rubbish to ever give any credit for those.



Hangman shouldn't have done what he did in the promo. Punk had his response and made Hangman look awful (and you could say deservedly so). Issue over, or it should have been. But no, Punk has to hold on to it and be a pain in the backside about it and everything else and it's not the first time. He is amazingly good and they are better for having him. But he can't help himself but to be difficult pita.

How about you answer this - do you even watch it? Or do you just listen to a certain podcast from someone with farcical bias against the company and people in it from day one and come here to parrot the same crap?



I'm sorry I must have missed the official confirmation of Punk's release/departure. Can you show me some evidence of it? At this point no one has been lost. All who were involved in the fight were suspended (including 3 people who apparently get away with everything). Interesting you mention the Acclaimed here too. Who more than anyone else thought they were worthwhile? Tony's undoubtedly made mistakes and needs help with booking but has made some good choices too, don't worry I won't expect you or the other time wasters who are only interested in talking negative, subjective, ignorant rubbish to ever give any credit for those.



Hangman shouldn't have done what he did in the promo. Punk had his response and made Hangman look awful (and you could say deservedly so). Issue over, or it should have been. But no, Punk has to hold on to it and be a pain in the backside about it and everything else and it's not the first time. He is amazingly good and they are better for having him. But he can't help himself but to be difficult pita.

This sums up Tony, AEW, Elite, Punk and most of all the diehards.

It's from the great Jim Cornette so you'll love it guys.

 

[Colonial]

It's from the great Jim Cornette

And that’s where all credibility is lost.

He used to be great, a long time ago. He ain’t now.

 

[GWBogan]

For the usual suspects in this thread who claim to be "fans" of AEW and/or supposedly want AEW to "succeed" despite posting nothing but negative content on here or liking any post/tweet/youtube video/etc. that shits on AEW, why do you still watch the product? Obviously, it's not for you and if AEW's existence hurts you so much, you can always ignore it and not watch. Surely it's not that hard...

Anyway... a fun episode of Elevation. Adding promos, vignettes and more non-squash matches than usual makes it a more enjoyable product.

 

[Shaxx Attaxx]

Great news!

AEW Fight Forever day one on Gamepass

 

[BEEG]

And that’s where all credibility is lost.

He used to be great, a long time ago. He ain’t now.

Clearly didn't listen to it, Info is from PW Insider which are nothing like Cornette, Meltzer etc they don't choose sides.

Let you be the one eyed judge.

 

[Colonial]

Clearly didn't listen to it, Info is from PW Insider which are nothing like Cornette, Meltzer etc they don't choose sides.

Let you be the one eyed judge.

Clearly. No need, watched enough of his rubbish to know what is coming.
One eyed? This isn’t a footy team.

 

[Nicho50]

Great news!

AEW Fight Forever day one on Gamepass

Yep that is great, haven't got high hopes for the game given it is first release hopefully it just has some fun nostalgia type feel of No Mercy to it.

In relation to all the other stuff it really is a shame that the CM and Elite stuff has over shadowed MJF in the last few months.

Catch 22 isn't it on one side you had the Vince style where none of that backstage shit would really occur but almost tyrant type leadership which suffocated everything creatively and on the other side TK has no control and it is basically a free for all which is destined for doom with the size of wrestlers ego's and entitlement.

 

[Colonial]

Yep that is great, haven't got high hopes for the game given it is first release hopefully it just has some fun nostalgia type feel of No Mercy to it.

In relation to all the other stuff it really is a shame that the CM and Elite stuff has over shadowed MJF in the last few months.

Catch 22 isn't it on one side you had the Vince style where none of that backstage s**t would really occur but almost tyrant type leadership which suffocated everything creatively and on the other side TK has no control and it is basically a free for all which is destined for doom with the size of wrestlers ego's and entitlement.

To be fair there was plenty of backstage blow ups in WWE under Vince. Happens at all companies.
Not saying it’s great, terrible he buried his own company like he did while champion, but it’s not new.

 

[Cleavy]

Clearly didn't listen to it, Info is from PW Insider which are nothing like Cornette, Meltzer etc they don't choose sides.

Let you be the one eyed judge.

Mike Johnson doesn't, Dave Scherer is very anti-AEW, pro-HHH.

 

[BEEG]

Toni Storm has surely done enough to be the AEW Womens Champion instead of the Intereim?

It's coming upto 3 months now.

 

[Cleavy]

Toni Storm has surely done enough to be the AEW Womens Champion instead of the Intereim?

It's coming upto 3 months now.

Not until Thunder Rosa comes back and they have a unification match. That’s how interim championships work!