Injury All things COVID-19 - including the impact on Season 2020

[Vdubs]

Just go to any supermarket to see how well that's working.

Agree. Doesn't condone that all-for-me behaviour though, does it?

 

[Vdubs]

Those arguments are absolutely going to be there. If you only play a team once - where do you play them? That alone is going to generate tons of arguments.

No, as suggested, a 2 year cycle, swap venues the following year.

 

[Ray Donovan]

There's a difference between year and school year, and you keep referencing year which implies through to 31 Dec 2020

And the last day for the current school year is June 2020 - maybe things will be closed for the next 3 months, but also a good chance they won't be

Yeah, I believe because we are in a spiking period that will potentially continue on the 4 and 4 trajectory every four days your cases and deaths double things look relatively dour in the short term.

But I caution with a lot of these projections brought out. They give no timeline and they give worst case scenario.

And I firmly believe a lot of this is driven by media and the government to make the Australian population realise how serious this problem could become.

It's a byproduct of an average un-prepared government that's disjointed and spend more time arguing between Liberal and Labour than working together at federal level. They have had so many test case countries and since January to Lock this country down correctly in terms of incoming travelers from overseas receiving proper screening etc.

So as a knee jerk reaction to laziness we are a democracy that does what we want as people. The communist lockdowns don't work here. Where the government is king and won't be questioned.

At the moment everything is going at the expected levels.

Now what happens over 2-3 or so years is a different story. But we would hope with medical advances, vaccines these projected numbers will drop and we will have preventative measures when 70% of the population contracts an influenza virus in mutating strands we will have drugs and immunization to prevent these numbers.

Listen that's glass half full and maybe I'm more on the positive side but that's how I feel at this moment. This could prove to be completely incorrect of course but I'm still working and walking around if these projected doomsday were on the brink I wouldn't be

 

[Partridge]

It has been UNFAIR since we changed from a 12 team comp. You do realise back then we played each team TWICE. Now with the 16-18 team comps , it's seriously unfair. 17 GAMES at least alleviates one source of unfairness. We can not play each team twice, as it appears, so why not just once, and that's it.

Which was a very good argument why 12 was a perfect number of teams, 14 was stretching it, and any more is simply too much.

 

[Partridge]

You think the morons haven't been told this?

No. Not that I've seen.

I've seen "there's no need to panic buy". But I haven't seen a consistent message along the lines of "if you are isolated, you can get essential items, you can get food, and you won't run out."

I haven't seen that once.

 

[Max Milburn]

No. Not that I've seen.

I've seen "there's no need to panic buy". But I haven't seen a consistent message along the lines of "if you are isolated, you can get essential items, you can get food, and you won't run out."

I haven't seen that once.

I've heard and seen consistent messages on this. But not everyone is looking for them I guess.
And I suspect many of the people panic buying would simply ignore the messages anyway.
Hence "morons".
I mean seriously, one of the first items to run out was flour.
Most of these idiots wouldn't even know what to do with flour.

 

[Max Milburn]

The Dutch are apparently panic buying marijuana!
It's understandable though, as the Netherlands goverment has officially announced it's going ahead with a herd immunity policy.

 

[Ray Donovan]

The Dutch are apparently panic buying marijuana!
It's understandable though, as the Netherlands goverment has officially announced it's going ahead with a herd immunity policy.

The Dutch well they have Amsterdam for a reason land of freedom.

Herd Immunity in this climate especially for where Australia is, one of the most reckless things possible. With 400 cases did not even bother with a state lockdown containment.

The reason 200 medical professionals and scientist told Boris to ship right off is because it's batshit crazy making a country a test case vs a deadly virus.

Then you get to the deaths of not just elderly anyone with any pre-exisiting medical illnesses cancer, obesity, Heart problems. List goes on and on I would be so disappointed in this country if that isn't the very last options because I can guarantee it's the laziest thing I have ever heard of.

And it's un-Australian not to fight will never vote for this basket case liberal government ever again

 

[Max Milburn]

Try this, very informative...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

 

[Max Milburn]

The Dutch well they have Amsterdam for a reason land of freedom.

Herd Immunity in this climate especially for where Australia is, one of the most reckless things possible. With 400 cases did not even bother with a state lockdown containment.

The reason 200 medical professionals and scientist told Boris to ship right off is because it's batshit crazy making a country a test case vs a deadly virus.

Then you get to the deaths of not just elderly anyone with any pre-exisiting medical illnesses cancer, obesity, Heart problems. List goes on and on I would be so disappointed in this country if that isn't the very last options because I can guarantee it's the laziest thing I have ever heard of.

And it's un-Australian not to fight will never vote for this basket case liberal government ever again

Yes, just like a real herd, we would essentially be leaving our most vulnerable to simply die.

 

[Ray Donovan]

Yes, just like a real herd, we would essentially be leaving our most vulnerable to simply die.

That's just not right

 

[cats_09]

With the 17 game season, how are they going to compensate those teams who are losing a home game? Have a 23 game season next year and give them an extra home game?

Play the reverse fixture next year - so whom you played at home this year is your away games next year and whom you played away to this year will be you opponent in home games

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Never Herd immunity I don't care what anyone or the government says.

If they are saying herd immunity we have already lost.

Don't care what anyone says I would never budge on that opinion

Herd immunity is not a policy decision it's the outcome of f$%#ing up.

 

[Max Milburn]

That's just not right

Morally? Of course.
But there two ways to achieve herd immunity.
Vaccination, which isn't an option here.
And letting the virus run its course unhindered, which will result in many deaths.
This is what I'm talking about.

 

[Ray Donovan]

Morally? Of course.
But there two ways to achieve herd immunity.
Vaccination, which isn't an option here.
And letting the virus run its course unhindered, which will result in many deaths.
This is what I'm talking about.

of course I know what your talking about max

 

[Max Milburn]

Herd immunity is not a policy decision it's the outcome of f$%#ing up.

It's a policy in the Netherlands. Officially.
And it almost was in Britain, until Boris backed away.

 

[Spazz Cat]

We haven't. Expand your reading.

Aren't we doing what they are doing only slower?

 

[Spazz Cat]

Summer coming and hopefully a vaccine you won't get anywhere near that number.

Didn't know you could vaccinate against a Corona virus. If so wouldn't have they found one for the common cold?

 

[Turbocat]

The usa has just banned gatherings of 10 people. Schools closed for the year. We will follow. The football season is over. i would be more worried about your jobs right now.

I have other worrys.

 

[Turbocat]

More meaningful than 22. Those 5 extra games are contrived and never fair. I'd be happy with this to be the ongoing situation tbh. Many teams flounder in some of those last few games. Our more senior players would really benefit from a 17 round season, as would the really young recruits.

Just what the season is contrived around history and revenue. If we took money out of it id say 17 games would be near perfect.

One must remember there is no system that has been played as long as the game has been played its changed many times...

We won a premiership 1967 when there was only 18 game H&A.

92 and 94 had 24 rounds .... 1993 the year we probably could have won the flag had 2 rounds less .... if we go back into the old days of VFL who knows how many variations in finals formats we have had. 17 rounds and an extended finals is probably what id expect to see as a prelude to 19 rounds when we have 20 sides in the next five - ten years.

Maybe the loss of dollars will give the players a glimpse of what they may have to agree to if they want to roll it back... it will tehn give flexabilty for other games whether it W or 18 or Rep games

 

[you pick one]

So in a re jigged 17 game season is anyone in any doubt Geelong will get 7 home games and 10 away including 2 in WA.

 

[Vdubs]

Just what the season is contrived around history and revenue. If we took money out of it id say 17 games would be near perfect.

One must remember there is no system that has been played as long as the game has been played its changed many times...

We won a premiership 1967 when there was only 18 game H&A.

92 and 94 had 24 rounds .... 1993 the year we probably could have won the flag had 2 rounds less .... if we go back into the old days of VFL who knows how many variations in finals formats we have had. 17 rounds and an extended finals is probably what id expect to see as a prelude to 19 rounds when we have 20 sides in the next five - ten years.

Maybe the loss of dollars will give the players a glimpse of what they may have to agree to if they want to roll it back... it will tehn give flexabilty for other games whether it W or 18 or Rep games

We lost 67, you mean 63!?

 

[cats_09]

Yeah, I believe because we are in a spiking period that will potentially continue on the 4 and 4 trajectory every four days your cases and deaths double things look relatively dour in the short term.

But I caution with a lot of these projections brought out. They give no timeline and they give worst case scenario.

And I firmly believe a lot of this is driven by media and the government to make the Australian population realise how serious this problem could become.

It's a byproduct of an average un-prepared government that's disjointed and spend more time arguing between Liberal and Labour than working together at federal level. They have had so many test case countries and since January to Lock this country down correctly in terms of incoming travelers from overseas receiving proper screening etc.

So as a knee jerk reaction to laziness we are a democracy that does what we want as people. The communist lockdowns don't work here. Where the government is king and won't be questioned.

At the moment everything is going at the expected levels.

Now what happens over 2-3 or so years is a different story. But we would hope with medical advances, vaccines these projected numbers will drop and we will have preventative measures when 70% of the population contracts an influenza virus in mutating strands we will have drugs and immunization to prevent these numbers.

Listen that's glass half full and maybe I'm more on the positive side but that's how I feel at this moment. This could prove to be completely incorrect of course but I'm still working and walking around if these projected doomsday were on the brink I wouldn't be

Totally agree the government was unprepared for this, but it also came at a really shit time for Australia as we were still dealing with the bushfires which was at the forefront of the minds for more than "some" illness that China was battling - would we have seen a different or earlier response if there was the ability to put the sole focus on just covid-19?

And not making an excuse for the government, but could a contributing factor in our un-preparedness be that we just haven't had to deal with anything like this on our shores in many a year?

Reading stuff that is comparing America's response with that of other countries like Singapore & Taiwan, a continual mention is the changes or implementations that a country like Taiwan made after the SARS outbreak - Taiwan had 346 confirmed cases & 37 direct SARS deaths. Their history with that, the lessons they learned and their actions in that aftermath have helped them act quickly with the covid-19 outbreak

You compare that with Australia and we had 1 SARS case - I can't remember the impact of other major outbreaks such as swine flu, MERS and zika actually on Australia shores, and just thinking that as we haven't really had to deal with a major outbreak/pandemic/epidemic on our shores, that it's contributed to the governments (in)actions so far.

NO one wants to be going through what we are going through at the moment - but hopefully we all learn from this and the government can be better prepared should something happen in the future, and not just wait and end up in a reactive situation versus a proactive situation

 

[Ray Donovan]

Totally agree the government was unprepared for this, but it also came at a really shit time for Australia as we were still dealing with the bushfires which was at the forefront of the minds for more than "some" illness that China was battling - would we have seen a different or earlier response if there was the ability to put the sole focus on just covid-19?

And not making an excuse for the government, but could a contributing factor in our un-preparedness be that we just haven't had to deal with anything like this on our shores in many a year?

Reading stuff that is comparing America's response with that of other countries like Singapore & Taiwan, a continual mention is the changes or implementations that a country like Taiwan made after the SARS outbreak - Taiwan had 346 confirmed cases & 37 direct SARS deaths. Their history with that, the lessons they learned and their actions in that aftermath have helped them act quickly with the covid-19 outbreak

You compare that with Australia and we had 1 SARS case - I can't remember the impact of other major outbreaks such as swine flu, MERS and zika actually on Australia shores, and just thinking that as we haven't really had to deal with a major outbreak/pandemic/epidemic on our shores, that it's contributed to the governments (in)actions so far.

NO one wants to be going through what we are going through at the moment - but hopefully we all learn from this and the government can be better prepared should something happen in the future, and not just wait and end up in a reactive situation versus a proactive situation

Agree for the most part the bushfires were difficult time for the country and new goverment.

Australia has had 7 prime ministers in 10 years

Although we watched it develop in China, Europe, Korea, Iran

Was the government lauded through the bushfires for proactive behaviour ?

Would a recent tragedy make you more responsive to quick action ? or less.

It's just not Morrison and liberal, Abbott, Rudd they were all bad. The leaders of Australia as a group need to align themselves sensible and work towards a goal of making this a better country.

I'm not talking about the recent history of epidemics and disasters I'm talking about a recent history of average political work at federal level.

So am I surprised they were slow off the mark not at all.

 

[cats_09]

Gotta love seeing these messages pop up on Facebook today for various companies that use off-shore call centres

Due to new COVID-19 measures introduced by the Philippines Government, we have fewer team members available today to take your calls and messages.