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[Markfs]

As Jewish ynetnews reported...

"Casualties fell as a result of friendly fire on October 7, but the IDF believes that beyond the operational investigations of the events, it would not be morally sound to investigate these incidents due to the immense and complex quantity of them that took place in the kibbutzim and southern Israeli communities due to the challenging situations the soldiers were in at the time."

One-fifth of troop fatalities in Gaza due to friendly fire or accidents, IDF reports

According to data, at least 20 of 105 deaths since launch of ground operations not caused by enemy fire; military says working to ensure troops' safety

www.ynetnews.com

Colonel Vachs is an orthodox jew. Would you believe a fanatical muslim if they told you about the oct 7th attack?
Ironically, he talks about how the youth in gaza are brainwashed into evil. Has he looked in the mirror recently?

Speaking With IDF Colonel Golan Vach - The 5 Towns Jewish Times

By Toby Klein Greenwald I conducted two interviews with Col. Golan Vach, 49, one two weeks into the war, from which I bring some excerpts here, and the second almost three months later. Part One: October 2023 Colonel Vach, who lives in Beit Rimon, a kibbutz in the lower Galil, until recently...

www.5tjt.com

And finally, a different jewish point of view of oct 7th

Masterclass in manipulation: Exposing Max Blumenthal's lies about Israel and October 7 | Opinion

***

www.haaretz.com

 

[sr36]

As for Col. Vach’s remarks on the bodies of eight burned babies, the IDF Spokesperson’s Unit said he “described difficult sights that he saw during his various missions evacuating bodies at the start of the war. The review was conducted in English, and the officer used the word 'babies' to describe a number of children’s bodies that were found. The error was made in good faith and does not mitigate the severity of the atrocities committed."

Yes, JB, the plan was to dehumanise terrorists who burned children alive.

I bet as a younger man you never thought you'd ever be all in on a war being led by a far-right government that has drastically increased settlements, ramped up dehumanising sentiment and that involves the starving of a civilian population, the complete demolition of civilian infrasture and the killing of 10s of thousands of civilians. A government with key ministers who have openly regretted that Ben Guiron didn't finish the job in 1948 and have claimed that there is no such thing as a palestinian people. But here you are - you're not questioning that war being led by that government.

 

[IlovethePies]

As for Col. Vach’s remarks on the bodies of eight burned babies, the IDF Spokesperson’s Unit said he “described difficult sights that he saw during his various missions evacuating bodies at the start of the war. The review was conducted in English, and the officer used the word 'babies' to describe a number of children’s bodies that were found. The error was made in good faith and does not mitigate the severity of the atrocities committed."

Yes, JB, the plan was to dehumanise terrorists who burned children alive.

Are you serious, posting such BS?? How many Palestinian children have died?

 

[Markfs]

I bet as a younger man you never thought you'd ever be all in on a war being led by a far-right government that has drastically increased settlements, ramped up dehumanising sentiment and that involves the starving of a civilian population, the complete demolition of civilian infrasture and the killing of 10s of thousands of civilians. A government with key ministers who have openly regretted that Ben Guiron didn't finish the job in 1948 and have claimed that there is no such thing as a palestinian people. But here you are - you're not questioning that war being led by that government.

i dont feel any regret from zevie. He's a man on a mission...

 

[IlovethePies]

i dont feel any regret from zevie. He's a man on a mission...

...and don't tell us that he is on a mission to "the promised land", as you usually do. He is on a mission to a lunatic asylum. Such is the insanity of Zionism.

 

[Markfs]

...and don't tell us that he is on a mission to "the promised land", as you usually do. He is on a mission to a lunatic asylum. Such is the insanity of Zionism.

well i know what you think, lovey. He's an agent for the US which is trying to stop palestinian world domination....

 

[IlovethePies]

well i know what you think, lovey. He's an agent for the US which is trying to stop palestinian world domination....

Nah, that's not what I think. Try again, princess.

 

[Markfs]

On July 22, the Israeli legislature, the Knesset, gave preliminary approval to a bill declaring the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) a “terrorist organisation”.

On 15th March, Australia lifted it temporary halt to funding to UNRWA.

I foresee problems in the master-servant relationship... I can see Australia being disciplined on this matter.

 

[Markfs]

What have these two been up to? Bibi looks interested...

 

[Markfs]

Interesting who is going to be kamala harris's running mate.

There's been some disquiet about Harris's stance on gaza and there appears to a move to get Josh Shapiro on her ticket to meet AIPAC and israeli requirements. Shapiro is pennsylvannia governor, among having other key prerequisites.

The ascension of Josh Shapiro might mark a new start in how middle east business is conducted in the US.

 

[Markfs]

I can imagine how many posts this guy gets from israeli supporters accusing him of evil and satanic baby burnings.... i'm surprised that one of his dinners hasn't been "adjusted" over the years....

 

[Markfs]

If you read the Sunday Age today, there was an article on the palestinian protests by paul sakkal. I wondered who sakkal was.

Well aside from reporting on middle east politics, it seems that he went to israel for one of their famous holidays. And its not just the odd one or two journos who partake...

Trips to Israel​

Media​

• Ben Packham — The Australian foreign affairs and defence correspondent (2023)
• Caroline Di Russo — News Corp columnist (2023)
• Eliza Edwards — Nine News political reporter (2023)
• Gemma Tognini — The Australian columnist (2023)
• Nicholas Jensen — The Australian opinion editor (2023)
• Patrick Elligett — The Age editor (2023)
• Tom Minear — News Corp US correspondent (2023)
• Clare Armstrong — News Corp national political editor (2022)
• Paul Sakkal — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age federal political correspondent (2022)
• Sarah Ison — The Australian political reporter (2022)
• Amie Meehan — 2GB newsreader (2019)
• Brad Clifton — then Daily Telegraph print edition editor (2019)
• Brian Carlton — radio host (2019)
• Chris Jones — now editor of The Courier-Mail (2019)
• Chris O’Keefe — 2GB Drive host (2019)
• Erin Jones — then head of news of The Advertiser (2019)
• Georgina Windsor — now deputy editor of The Australian (2019)
• James Chessell — Nine executive (2019)
• James Taylor — SBS managing director (2019)
• Kaycie Bradford — then news director/editor at Sky News (2019)
• Michelle Griffin — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age federal bureau chief (2019)
• Natasha Squarey — now reporter at Seven (2019)
• Adam Creighton — The Australian economics correspondent (2018)
• Andrew Holman — then editor of The Sunday Mail (2018)
• Danielle Pogson — Apple News editor (2018)
• Kate de Brito — then editor-in-chief at news.com.au (2018)
• Leo Shanahan — then business reporter at Sky News (2018)
• Mark Ludlow — Financial Review Queensland bureau chief (2018)
• Mark Mallabone — now deputy editor of The West Australian (2018)
• Michael Bachelard — then deputy editor of The Age (2018)
• Nick O’Malley — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age environment and climate editor (2018)
• Renee Viellaris — then federal political editor for The Courier-Mail (2018)
• Rob Harris — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age Europe correspondent (2018)
• Simon King — Nine Network editor (2018)
• Bryan Seymour — then reporter for Seven Network (2017)
• Caroline Marcus — Sky News senior reporter (2017)
• Daniel Wills — then state political editor for The Advertiser (2017)
• James Morrow — The Daily Telegraph national affairs editor (2017)
• Kelvin Healey — The Courier-Mail weekend editor (2017)
• Lisa Davies — then editor of The Sydney Morning Herald (2017)
• Mark Dunn — Herald Sun (2017)
• Nassim Khadem — now national reporter for the ABC (2017)
• Nick Butterly — then political reporter for The West Australian, now media adviser to Resources Minister Madeleine King (2017)
• Peta Credlin — Sky News host (2017)
• Sally Roberts — then SBS executive editor (2017)
• Tory Maguire — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age executive editor (2017)
• Zac McLean — The Daily Telegraph chief of staff (2017)
• Amelia Brace — Seven reporter (2016)
• Andrew Clennell — Sky News political editor (2016)
• James Massola — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age national affairs editor (2016)
• Jennifer Oriel — The Australian columnist (2016)
• Josh Gordon — The Age senior reporter (2016)
• Luke Malpass — Financial Review writer, Stuff political editor (2016)
• Rita Panahi — News Corp columnist (2016)
• Aaron Patrick — Financial Review senior correspondent (2015)
• Alan Dupont — The Australian columnist (2015)
• Alex Hart — then senior reporter at Seven (2015)
• Ben English — now editor of The Daily Telegraph (2015)
• Bevan Shields — now editor of The Sydney Morning Herald (2015)
• David Lipson — then reporter at Sky News (2015)
• James Campbell — News Corp national weekend political editor (2015)
• Sharri Markson — Sky News presenter (2015)
• Vic Alhadeff — SBS non-executive board director (2015)
• Joe Aston — then columnist for Financial Review (2014)
• Laura Jayes — Sky News host (2014)
• Rowan Dean — Sky News host (2014)
• David King — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age national editor (2013)
• Hamish McDonald — then writer for The Sydney Morning Herald (2012)
• Brian Thomson — then senior correspondent for SBS (2011)
• Joel Gibson — then opinion editor of The Sydney Morning Herald (2011)
• John Rolfe — The Daily Telegraph senior reporter (2011)
• Kylie Merritt — then Sky News business channel manager (2011)
• Peter Hartcher — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age international editor (2011)
• Andrew Bolt — News Corp columnist (2009)
• Chris Uhlmann — then political editor of the ABC (2010)
• Greg Sheridan — The Australian foreign editor (2010)
• Lenore Taylor — then Fairfax national affairs correspondent, now Guardian Australia editor (2010)

Yeh i know, andrew bolt and sheridan probably have holiday homes there....

Which Australian journalists and politicians have gone on trips to Israel and Palestine?

It's become clear that a number of Australian politicians and journalists have been on organised tours to the Middle East — many of them sponsored by pro-Israel lobby groups and interest organisations.

www.crikey.com.au

 

[ZEV]

If you read the Sunday Age today, there was an article on the palestinian protests by paul sakkal. I wondered who sakkal was.

Well aside from reporting on middle east politics, it seems that he went to israel for one of their famous holidays. And its not just the odd one or two journos who partake...

Trips to Israel​

Media​

• Ben Packham — The Australian foreign affairs and defence correspondent (2023)
• Caroline Di Russo — News Corp columnist (2023)
• Eliza Edwards — Nine News political reporter (2023)
• Gemma Tognini — The Australian columnist (2023)
• Nicholas Jensen — The Australian opinion editor (2023)
• Patrick Elligett — The Age editor (2023)
• Tom Minear — News Corp US correspondent (2023)
• Clare Armstrong — News Corp national political editor (2022)
• Paul Sakkal — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age federal political correspondent (2022)
• Sarah Ison — The Australian political reporter (2022)
• Amie Meehan — 2GB newsreader (2019)
• Brad Clifton — then Daily Telegraph print edition editor (2019)
• Brian Carlton — radio host (2019)
• Chris Jones — now editor of The Courier-Mail (2019)
• Chris O’Keefe — 2GB Drive host (2019)
• Erin Jones — then head of news of The Advertiser (2019)
• Georgina Windsor — now deputy editor of The Australian (2019)
• James Chessell — Nine executive (2019)
• James Taylor — SBS managing director (2019)
• Kaycie Bradford — then news director/editor at Sky News (2019)
• Michelle Griffin — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age federal bureau chief (2019)
• Natasha Squarey — now reporter at Seven (2019)
• Adam Creighton — The Australian economics correspondent (2018)
• Andrew Holman — then editor of The Sunday Mail (2018)
• Danielle Pogson — Apple News editor (2018)
• Kate de Brito — then editor-in-chief at news.com.au (2018)
• Leo Shanahan — then business reporter at Sky News (2018)
• Mark Ludlow — Financial Review Queensland bureau chief (2018)
• Mark Mallabone — now deputy editor of The West Australian (2018)
• Michael Bachelard — then deputy editor of The Age (2018)
• Nick O’Malley — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age environment and climate editor (2018)
• Renee Viellaris — then federal political editor for The Courier-Mail (2018)
• Rob Harris — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age Europe correspondent (2018)
• Simon King — Nine Network editor (2018)
• Bryan Seymour — then reporter for Seven Network (2017)
• Caroline Marcus — Sky News senior reporter (2017)
• Daniel Wills — then state political editor for The Advertiser (2017)
• James Morrow — The Daily Telegraph national affairs editor (2017)
• Kelvin Healey — The Courier-Mail weekend editor (2017)
• Lisa Davies — then editor of The Sydney Morning Herald (2017)
• Mark Dunn — Herald Sun (2017)
• Nassim Khadem — now national reporter for the ABC (2017)
• Nick Butterly — then political reporter for The West Australian, now media adviser to Resources Minister Madeleine King (2017)
• Peta Credlin — Sky News host (2017)
• Sally Roberts — then SBS executive editor (2017)
• Tory Maguire — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age executive editor (2017)
• Zac McLean — The Daily Telegraph chief of staff (2017)
• Amelia Brace — Seven reporter (2016)
• Andrew Clennell — Sky News political editor (2016)
• James Massola — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age national affairs editor (2016)
• Jennifer Oriel — The Australian columnist (2016)
• Josh Gordon — The Age senior reporter (2016)
• Luke Malpass — Financial Review writer, Stuff political editor (2016)
• Rita Panahi — News Corp columnist (2016)
• Aaron Patrick — Financial Review senior correspondent (2015)
• Alan Dupont — The Australian columnist (2015)
• Alex Hart — then senior reporter at Seven (2015)
• Ben English — now editor of The Daily Telegraph (2015)
• Bevan Shields — now editor of The Sydney Morning Herald (2015)
• David Lipson — then reporter at Sky News (2015)
• James Campbell — News Corp national weekend political editor (2015)
• Sharri Markson — Sky News presenter (2015)
• Vic Alhadeff — SBS non-executive board director (2015)
• Joe Aston — then columnist for Financial Review (2014)
• Laura Jayes — Sky News host (2014)
• Rowan Dean — Sky News host (2014)
• David King — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age national editor (2013)
• Hamish McDonald — then writer for The Sydney Morning Herald (2012)
• Brian Thomson — then senior correspondent for SBS (2011)
• Joel Gibson — then opinion editor of The Sydney Morning Herald (2011)
• John Rolfe — The Daily Telegraph senior reporter (2011)
• Kylie Merritt — then Sky News business channel manager (2011)
• Peter Hartcher — The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age international editor (2011)
• Andrew Bolt — News Corp columnist (2009)
• Chris Uhlmann — then political editor of the ABC (2010)
• Greg Sheridan — The Australian foreign editor (2010)
• Lenore Taylor — then Fairfax national affairs correspondent, now Guardian Australia editor (2010)

Yeh i know, andrew bolt and sheridan probably have holiday homes there....

Which Australian journalists and politicians have gone on trips to Israel and Palestine?

It's become clear that a number of Australian politicians and journalists have been on organised tours to the Middle East — many of them sponsored by pro-Israel lobby groups and interest organisations.

www.crikey.com.au

You are such a disingenuous campaigner.

The following story is a running list of journalists and politicians who have taken part in organised tours to the Middle East on the dime of lobby groups or governments, or at their own expense.

 

[Markfs]

You are such a disingenuous campaigner.

The following story is a running list of journalists and politicians who have taken part in organised tours to the Middle East on the dime of lobby groups or governments, or at their own expense.

some journos can spot a gravy train from a mile off...

but there are many who are just going back for "refreshers"...such as those from the latest returning crop of influencers....


Indigenous member of a recent AIJAC Rambam study program visiting Israel says the Jewish community has been a major friend to Australia’s First Peoples.

Piers Akerman
Sean Gordon told an Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC) supporters luncheon last week: “The Jewish people have done more to advance our cause as Aboriginal people than any other group in the country”. Gordon, a Wangkumarra/Barkindji man and managing director of the Gidgee Group, was one of several recent returnees of AIJAC’s Rambam study program to Israel, who conveyed how impressed he was with the ongoing resilience he saw in Israel.

Speaking alongside him about their respective trips and related issues, including antisemitism in Australia, was Fiona Buffini, editor of the Australian Financial Review; Daily Telegraph columnist Piers Akerman; Sky News presenter Gabriella Power; and the Australian’s legal affairs correspondent Ellie Dudley.

Akerman, who had been to Israel before, said he was still shocked from this trip by the IDF footage of October 7, , “…so vicious, so determinedly barbaric.”

Referring to Iran as “the spider in the middle of the web” and a member of “team evil “alongside other anti-Western states and groups, Akerman argued the Government needs to list Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a terrorist organisation.

He also stressed the need to crack down on antisemitism and Islamist extremism in Australia, and not just for the sake of the Jewish community, but all Australians. “This is the message you have to say to the current Government: you’re not keeping Australia safe,” he said.

Buffini said she went there in part due to her confusion over the “moral inversion” following October 7, with many, particularly on the progressive side of politics, “openly siding with Iran and with its proxies.”

When describing the trip, Dudley said, she was struck most by the unedited video of October 7 footage. “It wasn’t until that video that I got a much better understanding of the massacre that saw hundreds of men, women and children slaughtered, families ripped apart and people taken from their homes.”

Power, who is working on a special report for Sky News based on her experiences during the trip, spoke about meeting some of the survivors of the Nova massacre and said when she visited the site, “it was as if I could still feel parts of the shock and the trauma and the grief that was still there. I’ve never in my life felt anything like that.”

Rambam Israel study group reports

Indigenous member of a recent AIJAC Rambam study program says the Jewish community has been a major friend to Australia's First Peoples.

www.jwire.com.au

 

[Markfs]

unfortunately, applications for the JNF study tour for teachers are closed

JNF Australia Educators Israel Study Tour 2-11 January 2024 - JNF Australia

Jan 2024, Israel

jnf.org.au

But here is a report back from the 2021 tour where 68 teachers went!!....would JNF get much change out of a million bucks? Maybe the teachers partly fund their own travel....after all, it does help career advancement...

Peter Murkins, deputy principal at Parramatta’s Arthur Phillip High School, said “we are such a multicultural school, and we teach about the Holocaust and offer the Arab–Israeli conflict as a senior history topic, so I’d like to develop learning materials about Israel’s landscapes, people and places,” Murkin said.

JNF to send 68 teachers to Israel

An expanded JNF Australia Educators' Study Tour of Israel of 68 teaching professionals from 20 schools across the nation – including two principals, three deputy principals and a large non-Jewish contingent – will see iconic Israeli sights and visit innovative and diverse schools from January 1-10.

www.australianjewishnews.com

 

[Maggie5]

The following story is a running list of journalists and politicians who have taken part in organised tours to the Middle East on the dime of lobby groups or governments, or at their own expense.

Who on that list went there at their own expense?

 

[Markfs]

In the last four years (June 2018-April 2022),* Australian federal parliamentarians have received more sponsored trips to Israel than to any other country. There were 25 parliamentary visits to Israel, with the next most popular destinations being
Taiwan (17 visits) and the United States of America (USA) (15 visits).

Notably, during the same time period, there were no official Australian Government international parliamentary delegations to Israel or Taiwan. The total number of non-Australian Government sponsored trips to all countries in this period was 139, so Israel comprised 18% of all trips.

So it seems that both Israel and Taiwan and "paying" for federal parlimentarians to go to their countries. It seems to be a worthwhile strategy....at least for those two countries..

 

[Markfs]

For anyone wanting to know how they are being "influenced" by the australian media and how jewish/israeli related policy is generated in Canberra, read this article and its various links. I've just skimmed the surface..

I'd call this decades-long strategy of bending public opinion in Australia as disengenuous....but it's focus is clear if you bother to look behind the stories or you bother to ask why your MP is making another statement about israel which is out of step with the general population.

https://michaelwest.com.au/israel-war-lobby-influence/

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

Interesting who is going to be kamala harris's running mate.

There's been some disquiet about Harris's stance on gaza and there appears to a move to get Josh Shapiro on her ticket to meet AIPAC and israeli requirements. Shapiro is pennsylvannia governor, among having other key prerequisites.

The ascension of Josh Shapiro might mark a new start in how middle east business is conducted in the US.

Shapiro is popular in his state and has been praised for fixing things like bridges

He is less likely, not more likely, to get the VP running mate role because he is Jewish

This has widely been discussed by Democratic commentators, Jewish and non-Jewish

Harris does not want to alienate potential progressive voters

But you probably know all this and just want to spread a little kero

 

[Markfs]

Shapiro is popular in his state and has been praised for fixing things like bridges

He is less likely, not more likely, to get the VP running mate role because he is Jewish

This has widely been discussed by Democratic commentators, Jewish and non-Jewish

Harris does not want to alienate potential progressive voters

But you probably know all this and just want to spread a little kero

I was speculating about who might get on the ticket, Walter. Joe had a formidable reputation in the area of israel. I dont think Harris is going to fundamentally change policy but she might want to hint at change to cater to democrats who want policy change regarding israel.

I think one of the fundmental strengths demonstrated by AIPAC over the last year is that it is willing to take some bad PR for individuals if the policy remains intact. However, Shapiro might do more than just calm fears, he might be the dawn to a new age.....as per Obama....or even JFK who was famously non-electable because he was a roman catholic.

You say less likely... I'm about 50/50. It might depend on just how well the sell-job goes in the coming weeks.

 

[Markfs]

Shapiro is popular in his state and has been praised for fixing things like bridges

He is less likely, not more likely, to get the VP running mate role because he is Jewish

This has widely been discussed by Democratic commentators, Jewish and non-Jewish

Harris does not want to alienate potential progressive voters

But you probably know all this and just want to spread a little kero

Former Republican congressman Zach Wamp says Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is a “formidable candidate” for Kamala Harris’ running mate.

“He has been a very effective governor ... I think Josh Shapiro is probably the frontrunner,” Mr Wamp told Sky News Australia.

evidently mr. wamp runs a kerosene business on the side.....

 

[Markfs]

Shapiro is popular in his state and has been praised for fixing things like bridges

He is less likely, not more likely, to get the VP running mate role because he is Jewish

This has widely been discussed by Democratic commentators, Jewish and non-Jewish

Harris does not want to alienate potential progressive voters

But you probably know all this and just want to spread a little kero

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro has been gaining attention in the political world for taking on Republicans on major issues such as abortion access and immigration.

And now he could be bringing his political skills to the White House with sources telling ABC News that Shapiro is a front-runner to become Kamala Harris' running mate.

(Note : The American ABC news network does some kero sales to pay for journalist wages....)

Who is Gov. Josh Shapiro, a possible Harris VP pick?

Pennsylvania's Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro has risen through the ranks in his home state for several years and is now being eyed for a vice presidential slot.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Chameleon75]

Shapiro is popular in his state and has been praised for fixing things like bridges

He is less likely, not more likely, to get the VP running mate role because he is Jewish

This has widely been discussed by Democratic commentators, Jewish and non-Jewish

Harris does not want to alienate potential progressive voters

But you probably know all this and just want to spread a little kero

Shapiro is favoured by the donors, not sure why you think progressives like him, they refer to him as GOP-lite. Him calling protesters KKK hasn’t done him any favours with the progressive block, but even before that he was running foul of the education union with his implementation of school vouchers that have been exploited to discriminate against minorities.

Progressives favour walz followed by bashear. He may well get the nod, but it won’t be to appeal to progressives it will be to shore up the vote in Pennsylvania as people like to vote for the hometown boy.

 

[Markfs]

Shapiro is popular in his state and has been praised for fixing things like bridges

He is less likely, not more likely, to get the VP running mate role because he is Jewish

This has widely been discussed by Democratic commentators, Jewish and non-Jewish

Harris does not want to alienate potential progressive voters

But you probably know all this and just want to spread a little kero

Interesting article Walter. It seems that Shapiro might attract Republican votes BECAUSE he is jewish.

Republicans increasingly see one of the Democrats under consideration to be Vice President Kamala Harris’ running mate as the most likely to offer her a boost and make their efforts trickier: Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro.

Evidently NBC and ABC news in America are doing a joint-venture in kerosene...

Republicans see Gov. Josh Shapiro as Harris' 'super strong' VP contender

But a few of the reasons Republicans consider the Pennsylvania governor a potential boost to Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign may cause heartburn among some Democrats.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Markfs]

Shapiro is favoured by the donors, not sure why you think progressives like him, they refer to him as GOP-lite. Him calling protesters KKK hasn’t done him any favours with the progressive block, but even before that he was running foul of the education union with his implementation of school vouchers that have been exploited to discriminate against minorities.

Progressives favour walz followed by bashear. He may well get the nod, but it won’t be to appeal to progressives it will be to shore up the vote in Pennsylvania as people like to vote for the hometown boy.

You might have to give walter a pass on his assessment. He might have travelled to the middle east on a study grant some years ago....