Astute pickup by Melbourne, they'll be glad with his deserved selection.
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Astute pickup by Melbourne, they'll be glad with his deserved selection.
2one2
Premiership Player
- May 30, 2012
- 3,569
- 5,429
- AFL Club
- Essendon
Surely a real coaching fail would be to not with those 8 games in the first place?
Nice arbitrary stat though, can I play?
North Melbourne gave West Coast their biggest win in a final ever. Therefore Brad Scott is my vote for the AUA coach.
Well there is 25 years of history in a one off game compared to Hird re-writing 135 years of history. Wow - from 2nd to 11th. How is that even possible??
2one2
Premiership Player
- May 30, 2012
- 3,569
- 5,429
- AFL Club
- Essendon
It sure was a sad end to the year. But how did Essendon get those 8 wins in the first place? The way you talk about the Essendon team it sounds like Hird is a genius to scrounge 11 wins out of such a pack of flogs.
Also you can't really say "re-writing history" about something utterly random - something tells me there is no entry in the history books under "lowest end-of-year position after 8-1 start". The history books are full of clean stats like biggest margin ever squandered in a game and stuff like that.
50 years since a team missed finals after an 8-1 start - back then it was a top 4. Huge effort to fall so far. But I stand by my pick as Hird for my coach - maybe you can add a team and coach. There are a lot of people putting Jimmy in as coach.
yeah your on the money....a bloke who wins best first year player at his club and finishes top 10 b&f should be in the 22 of the un-australian side
Disgraceful form turn around. Hird under pressure if 2013 is a failure
Na you're actually completely wrong. Morris is one of the best defensive players on our list, has shutdown numerous small forwards this year (Betts, Milne etc) who in the past have consistently cut us up. Plenty of goals have been saved because of Morris' efforts this year.
Quite a few Richmond players could make a worst 22, e.g. Jackson, King, Post and McGuane. Morris however is definitely not one of these players.
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Didnt really have any competition.
I think he's one sided, gets turned inside out and lacks awareness.
100% agree. The last 7 weeks were disgusting,
- Mar 23, 2011
- 1,625
- 1,902
- AFL Club
- Essendon
Todd Goldstein owns 1st ruck in this team.
Worst ruckman in the competition for the last third of the season.
Worst ruckman in the competition for the last third of the season.
The games I've seen of him he's been terrible.
I certainly do remember Betts reaming him in one game.
daniel's mate
Debutant
Nahas kicked 34 goals and was one of the leaders in league at tackles nd pressure acts inside 50.
Talentman is either a poor judge or a major stirrer.
Morris, Petrenko, Mcginnity also shocking selections.
Even Mcguane kicked 15 goals in 9 matches
Everytime I think Ibbo may have finally turned the corner his soft underbelly rears its ugly head again.
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Did you watch Petrenko last night?
He has absolutely no composure, I dont think you'll find any argument from eagles supporters in regards to Mcginnity and you're bias blinds you from seeing how poor Nahas and especially Morris are.
Mcguane shanks drops punts from 2 metres out with an open goal face, he's very much in the mix.
daniel's mate
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Nahas' 34 goals would have won your team's goalkicking award
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lol at the inclusion of Morris, and even robbie, but opinions are like arseholes and everyone's got one, even fools
Brett Ratten for Coach
Chris Judd for captain
Chris Judd for captain
Just to make it a bit more interesting, I've forced myself to include at least one player from each club.
B: Joel Macdonald, Bower, Logan
HB: K.Hunt, Jared Brennan, A.Selwood
C: J.Sherman, Savage, M.Campbell
HF: Stokes, Folau, L.Dunn
F: Dawes, Koschitzke, A.Everitt
Ruck: Z.Smith, Rischitelli, Hocking
Inter: K.Tippett, A.Maric, T.Banfield, B.Miller
Bower: Been such a non-presence. Does not throw his weight around nearly enough.
Brennan: Sloppy, lazy, disinterested, unprofessional. Wait for him to have a big 2013 now that his contract is up for renewal.
Joel Macdonald: That he played most of the Dees' game this season is one of the reasons they struggled to keep hold of the ball.
Tom Logan: I have this theory that Tom Logan doesn't actually exist, that 'Tom Logan' was just what Primus wrote on the team sheet when he couldn't figure out who to play. That would explain the complete lack of impact he has on footy games.
Hocking: I quite like Hocking, but the Bombers needed him to develop more of an all-round game this season and that hasn't happened.
Adam Selwood: Very tough to pick an Eagle. Selwood's been okay as a tagger but he has the capacity to use it in the other direction and didn't this season.
Zac Smith: A real case of second year blues. Had little impact.
Stokes: To be fair, had a couple of good games, but was carried in a lot more. Plus he tends to go missing when the Cats are struggling.
Israel Folau: You just can't not pick him. The worst player to play 10 or more games this season.
Chris Dawes: He's a confidence player, and in 2012 he had none of it.
Koschitzke: Huge disappointment after a promising start to the season.
Andrejs Everitt: Kicked a great goal to win a game, and didn't factor in any of his other eleven games.
Tippett: File it under 'kicking a bloke when he's down' but some of his efforts this season have been rancid.
Matt Campbell: A few times this season watching the Kangaroos I totally forgot he was playing. Goes missing for long, long stretches at times.
Savage: Not as effective as he was last season. Or as busy.
Addam Maric: The image I have for Maric's season is him buzzing around the pack, waiting hopefully for someone to feed him the ball. Sensibly, his teammates seldom did.
Sherman: An outside midfielder who can't hit a target by foot. What a disappointment this guy has been.
Rischitelli: Might have been carrying an injury, but whatever the reason didn't have the impact he should have.
Karmichael Hunt: Sure he showed some improvement, and he kicked a great game winning goal, but if it was Joe Bloggs running around we'd be wondering who this bloke is who insists on handpassing when he should kick.
Todd Banfield: Totally useless as a forward this season.
Brad Miller: Just not suited to this level.
B: Joel Macdonald, Bower, Logan
HB: K.Hunt, Jared Brennan, A.Selwood
C: J.Sherman, Savage, M.Campbell
HF: Stokes, Folau, L.Dunn
F: Dawes, Koschitzke, A.Everitt
Ruck: Z.Smith, Rischitelli, Hocking
Inter: K.Tippett, A.Maric, T.Banfield, B.Miller
Bower: Been such a non-presence. Does not throw his weight around nearly enough.
Brennan: Sloppy, lazy, disinterested, unprofessional. Wait for him to have a big 2013 now that his contract is up for renewal.
Joel Macdonald: That he played most of the Dees' game this season is one of the reasons they struggled to keep hold of the ball.
Tom Logan: I have this theory that Tom Logan doesn't actually exist, that 'Tom Logan' was just what Primus wrote on the team sheet when he couldn't figure out who to play. That would explain the complete lack of impact he has on footy games.
Hocking: I quite like Hocking, but the Bombers needed him to develop more of an all-round game this season and that hasn't happened.
Adam Selwood: Very tough to pick an Eagle. Selwood's been okay as a tagger but he has the capacity to use it in the other direction and didn't this season.
Zac Smith: A real case of second year blues. Had little impact.
Stokes: To be fair, had a couple of good games, but was carried in a lot more. Plus he tends to go missing when the Cats are struggling.
Israel Folau: You just can't not pick him. The worst player to play 10 or more games this season.
Chris Dawes: He's a confidence player, and in 2012 he had none of it.
Koschitzke: Huge disappointment after a promising start to the season.
Andrejs Everitt: Kicked a great goal to win a game, and didn't factor in any of his other eleven games.
Tippett: File it under 'kicking a bloke when he's down' but some of his efforts this season have been rancid.
Matt Campbell: A few times this season watching the Kangaroos I totally forgot he was playing. Goes missing for long, long stretches at times.
Savage: Not as effective as he was last season. Or as busy.
Addam Maric: The image I have for Maric's season is him buzzing around the pack, waiting hopefully for someone to feed him the ball. Sensibly, his teammates seldom did.
Sherman: An outside midfielder who can't hit a target by foot. What a disappointment this guy has been.
Rischitelli: Might have been carrying an injury, but whatever the reason didn't have the impact he should have.
Karmichael Hunt: Sure he showed some improvement, and he kicked a great game winning goal, but if it was Joe Bloggs running around we'd be wondering who this bloke is who insists on handpassing when he should kick.
Todd Banfield: Totally useless as a forward this season.
Brad Miller: Just not suited to this level.
PTizzle
Brownlow Medallist
Dunno about Hunt really, I think a lot of young sides would really like to have him. I wouldn't have him as one of the worst 22 players based on his year. I'd have McGinnity over A Selwood to, despite his alright finals performances.
I really like your team apart from that.
There seems to be a big lack of Doggies players in people's lists, although I don't know that many who have played more than 10 that have been dreadful. Has Jarrad Grant? One good game for the year, many shockers. Tom Williams? I like him and he makes a contest but he is one of the most awful set-shots I've ever seen. Then you've got the Djerkurra's, Vezpremi's, Sherman's who do stuff all but I'm not sure make the cut.
I really like your team apart from that.
There seems to be a big lack of Doggies players in people's lists, although I don't know that many who have played more than 10 that have been dreadful. Has Jarrad Grant? One good game for the year, many shockers. Tom Williams? I like him and he makes a contest but he is one of the most awful set-shots I've ever seen. Then you've got the Djerkurra's, Vezpremi's, Sherman's who do stuff all but I'm not sure make the cut.
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TheBrownDog
Tom Logan has plenty of impact on games. The problem is that the vast majority isn't positive.
B: Sam Lonergan, Alipate Carlile, Tayte Pears
HB: Darren Pfeiffer, Ryan Schoenmakers, Simon Buckley
C: Liam Anthony, Matthew Bate, Ed Curnow
HF: Sam Blease, Justin Westhoff, Patrick McGinnity
F: Ashton Hams, Lachlan Hansen, Jarrad Grant
Foll: James Sellar, Ricky Dyson, James Polkinghorne
Int: Justin Sherman, Lynden Dunn, Nick Suban, Matt Campbell
Sam Lonergan: He's still getting a game?
Alipate Carlile: Winner of the Reverse Coleman.
Tayte Pears: Played Cloke back into form.
Darren Pfeiffer: Had one good game but the rest were pants.
Ryan Schoenmakers: The new Zac Dawson, now that Zac has matured into merely poor.
Simon Buckley: He's still getting a game?
Liam Anthony: Knows how to get it. Doesn't know what to do with it.
Matthew Bate: Tarnishing the fine reputation of rangas everywhere.
Ed Curnow: Lost his way this year, not sure what role he has any more. Not a tagger.
Sam Blease: Pulls some flashy crap once or twice a game, otherwise nothing.
Justin Westhoff: Word is that he'll be on the first manned flight to Mars, he's such an astronaut (only gets a kick in space).
Patrick McGinnity: His forward tagging is not bad, but he's terrible with ball in hand.
Ashton Hams: Has one trick: the duck. Umps worked him out late in the year so it's back to the WAFL, sonny.
Lachlan Hansen: Somehow holding Cam Pedersen out of the North side.
Jarrad Grant: Vying with Westhoff for title of softest supposed key position player. Has the defence that he's made out of matchsticks.
James Sellar: He's no Leigh Brown. The legend of Leigh Brown grows and grows.
Ricky Dyson: He's still getting a game?
James Polkinghorne: Like Curnow, doesn't know what he will be when he grows up. Not a tagger.
Justin Sherman: [insert string of personal abuse]
Lynden Dunn: They call Sherman the Tank, but Dunn is a more accurate target of that moniker, since he's the player that Melbourne sends to the backline when they want to lose.
Nick Suban: Freo have too many half back flankers. He's also WAFL material.
Matt Campbell: Perfect sub, if you want two handballs and a tackle in a quarter and a half.
HB: Darren Pfeiffer, Ryan Schoenmakers, Simon Buckley
C: Liam Anthony, Matthew Bate, Ed Curnow
HF: Sam Blease, Justin Westhoff, Patrick McGinnity
F: Ashton Hams, Lachlan Hansen, Jarrad Grant
Foll: James Sellar, Ricky Dyson, James Polkinghorne
Int: Justin Sherman, Lynden Dunn, Nick Suban, Matt Campbell
Sam Lonergan: He's still getting a game?
Alipate Carlile: Winner of the Reverse Coleman.
Tayte Pears: Played Cloke back into form.
Darren Pfeiffer: Had one good game but the rest were pants.
Ryan Schoenmakers: The new Zac Dawson, now that Zac has matured into merely poor.
Simon Buckley: He's still getting a game?
Liam Anthony: Knows how to get it. Doesn't know what to do with it.
Matthew Bate: Tarnishing the fine reputation of rangas everywhere.
Ed Curnow: Lost his way this year, not sure what role he has any more. Not a tagger.
Sam Blease: Pulls some flashy crap once or twice a game, otherwise nothing.
Justin Westhoff: Word is that he'll be on the first manned flight to Mars, he's such an astronaut (only gets a kick in space).
Patrick McGinnity: His forward tagging is not bad, but he's terrible with ball in hand.
Ashton Hams: Has one trick: the duck. Umps worked him out late in the year so it's back to the WAFL, sonny.
Lachlan Hansen: Somehow holding Cam Pedersen out of the North side.
Jarrad Grant: Vying with Westhoff for title of softest supposed key position player. Has the defence that he's made out of matchsticks.
James Sellar: He's no Leigh Brown. The legend of Leigh Brown grows and grows.
Ricky Dyson: He's still getting a game?
James Polkinghorne: Like Curnow, doesn't know what he will be when he grows up. Not a tagger.
Justin Sherman: [insert string of personal abuse]
Lynden Dunn: They call Sherman the Tank, but Dunn is a more accurate target of that moniker, since he's the player that Melbourne sends to the backline when they want to lose.
Nick Suban: Freo have too many half back flankers. He's also WAFL material.
Matt Campbell: Perfect sub, if you want two handballs and a tackle in a quarter and a half.
Gee, glad I haven't ventured onto this thread before. I'm not a huge fan and he's a frustrating player as he tends to get brushed aside far too easily, but here's a couple of relevant stats.
Leading goalkickers "on the road" at Victorian clubs, min. 20 games:
2.89 Lance Franklin
2.11 Jack Riewoldt
2.00 Steve Johnson
1.90 Robin Nahas
1.85 Tom Hawkins
1.77 Stephen Milne
1.75 Travis Cloke
1.68 Nick Riewoldt
Think I've gone far enough.
In addition he was a top-25 goalkicker in the AFL this year, ahead of the likes of Goodes, Harvey, Saad, Ballantyne & Porplyzia. He doesn't belong in your team.
