Fantasy Alpha Dynasty 2011 - Discussion

[Mordikai]

Bitches trade block

Steve Smith - Car - WR
Micheal Bush - OAK - RB
Aaron Hernandez - NE - TE
James Jones - GB - WR

PM to discuss....

 

[Woodson]

Mustangs have come to an agreement with the Terrors (TGBB)

Terrors gives up:
2011 Third Round (second) + 2012 Third round

Mustangs exchange:
2012 First Round of Dodgers via Warriors.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Mustangs have come to an agreement with the Terrors (TGBB)

Terrors gives up:
2011 Third Round (second) + 2012 Third round

Mustangs exchange:
2012 First Round of Dodgers via Warriors.

confirmed

 

[Dagless]

Mustangs have come to an agreement with the Terrors (TGBB)

Terrors gives up:
2011 Third Round (second) + 2012 Third round

Mustangs exchange:
2012 First Round of Dodgers via Warriors.

Wut?....

Two thirds for a first?

If it was a second I would understand, but that's terrible.

 

[Exe Gesis]

So what do we do? Veto that last trade and ask them to equalize it more?

 

[Dagless]

So what do we do? Veto that last trade and ask them to equalize it more?

Not necessarily, jsut think it's terrible.

Wouldn't mind more opinions...

 

[drd23]

Im not sure what you should do - punish Woodson's stupidity/reward TGBB's smarts by allowing it or veto the trade to make the trade (and the league) more fair

 

[Exe Gesis]

Woodson is a very strange fantasy GM lol.

He'll spruik some has-been back-up and demand no less than a first round pick and you giving up a fantasy stud. Then other times he'll gift a first rounder for a couple of third rounders (one of which is a 2012 3rd).

I think there should be allowance for "good" and "bad" trades, but that one is silly and shouldn't (imo) fly, unless they equalize it better.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Dunno how Woodson can be so schizophrenic.
This is another trade he made in the off-season of him being 'tough'.

Mustangs: #1
Warriors: #4 + Dodgers 2012 1st

 

[Exe Gesis]

Btw,

I would like to trade my 3 late fourth round picks, my two late fifths, and my two late sixths.
As a combination package of all/some of the above, in order to move up into rounds 2/3 and/or a player.

 

[manureid]

I thought I was reading that trade wrong....glad I wasnt the only one that thought it was weird. TGBB with daylight robbery!

 

[Dagless]

Dunno how Woodson can be so schizophrenic.
This is another trade he made in the off-season of him being 'tough'.

I'm normally on a veto guy if theres a suggestion of collusion, but considering Woodson offered me an equally one sided deal (I didn't take it obv) I don't think it's that.

He's targetting a QB given his situation, so 1.01 to 1.04 wouldn't change too much.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

If you want to veto then fine by me.
Woody came to me with two options, this one and
the other was me giving him Gronkowski plus 3rd rd pick.

 

[Dagless]

If you want to veto then fine by me.
Woody came to me with two options, this one and
the other was me giving him Gronkowski plus 3rd rd pick.

For the sanity of all involved, at least give him your second

 

[manureid]

I am not big on the veto stuff really, and I know this is not a case of collusion (I hope). It is just one of those seriously weird trades! Well done TGBB, I would have made that trade in a second!!

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

I'm all for veto. If the commish seriously think this is an unfair trade then fair enough, knock it back.

Woody came to me and and made me the offers. I'm not going to knock back Woody's offer in the chance he may then offer someone else a similar trade. I accept, we put it on here and people can judge, commish can use their judgement.

Mind you Woody did offer me Marshawn a couple years back for 2nd & 4th round pick that was met with similar outrage. Woody got Collie and another player, still think he won that one!!

 

[Dagless]

I'm all for veto. If the commish seriously think this is an unfair trade then fair enough, knock it back.

Woody came to me and and made me the offers. I'm not going to knock back Woody's offer in the chance he may then offer someone else a similar trade. I accept, we put it on here and people can judge, commish can use their judgement.

Mind you Woody did offer me Marshawn a couple years back for 2nd & 4th round pick that was met with similar outrage. Woody got Collie and another player, still think he won that one!!

I think the Marshawn one was purely about value - Marshawn's was low at that point but it was a dynamic value compared to the picks static value.

I just think pick values are relatively constant, and theres no reason that a first round pick should go for 2 3rds, both of them probably late when the the value of rookie draft picks falls exponentially quickly.

Considering the value I've gotten for future 1st round draft picks (Mendenhall, a future first) or current first round draft picks (Kolb, Young RBs), I just think it's ridiculously below market value.

But if both Woodson and TGBB are fine with it...

 

[manureid]

Hell no, you could not back that trade. I would like to get Woodys take on the trade before I would say it was a veto trade. He may have a pretty good reason for it????

 

[LarryDavid]

What's all the fuss about? The fantasy football league isn't real. It's like wrestling. Nobody gets hurt. You guys are leaving lots of ring stains about this incredible trade.. two extra sleeper third round picks the mustangs never had can still earn good points while a first round pick can still be a lame BUST.

That's all that matters.

 

[Exe Gesis]

I don't like to veto either, allowance/leeway for good/bad is cool.

But if you can PM woodson and work on something more? Basically that trade is on hold pending further talks, rather than accepted/rejected.

 

[Exe Gesis]

If that's the case Larry, how about you take my 7 4th-6th round picks and give me a 1st and 2nd? You'll have a ton of sleeper potential there.

yes/no? i bet you would say no.

 

[Dagless]

What's all the fuss about? The fantasy football league isn't real. It's like wrestling. Nobody gets hurt. You guys are leaving lots of ring stains about this incredible trade.. two extra sleeper third round picks the mustangs never had can still earn good points while a first round pick can still be a lame BUST.

That's all that matters.

The rate at which 1st round picks bust, even late ones, is a heckuva lot lower than 3rd round picks. Also comparing value of players taken at those spots (ie you're likely going to get a RB or WR or QB with a first, compared to a third where you're taking minnow WRs, TEs, IDP etc), you're selling the first ridiculously short.

We know it's just a game, but it's meant to be competitive, and by pretty much giving away high picks to good players for late picks, you're damaging the competitive nature of the league Larry!

YOu could have easily gotten a second + decent depth for that first.

 

[manureid]

What's all the fuss about? The fantasy football league isn't real. It's like wrestling. Nobody gets hurt. You guys are leaving lots of ring stains about this incredible trade.. two extra sleeper third round picks the mustangs never had can still earn good points while a first round pick can still be a lame BUST.

That's all that matters.

Larry has spoken!

 

[Exe Gesis]

LarryDavid is the RexRyan of Alpha.

 

[Woodson]

LarryDavid is the RexRyan of Alpha.

I actually got on the blower after the fiasco and asked if the Terror front office could be 'gracious enough' to slip me up to their 'highest 3rd round pick' to keep the peace. I could of asked for two second round picks (2011 & 2012) but thats just plain greedy.