Science/Environment Anti-vacc Crazies at it again. Post appropriate outrage ITT

[Clubs are trumps]

It might be news to you that there is a world wide shortage of IC Nurses. Guess why?

Mate i work at the hospital i mentioned in my post above. Im giving an insight into whats happening. I watched my ex struggle to get employment as a nurse after graduating here during the outbreak of the pandemic, simply because she was born in Nepal. If you're going to ask a condescending sarcastic question you can cram it.

 

[Pie eyed]

How am i supposed to show you evidence?

Well, as you nearly died after having a whooping cough vaccination I assume a doctor would have treated you, done a few blood tests etc.
Obviously your case was reported and the near death added to the database of such events possibly attributable to vaccination.

As I asked, what evidence pointed to the vaccination, other than your "gut" feeling?

 

[tesseract]

They don't but why should some people leach off the benefit of others?

Because folks should have the right to choose what goes into their body. That decision shouldn't be forced upon others due to the ideals of others.

 

[vealesy]

Well, as you nearly died after having a whooping cough vaccination I assume a doctor would have treated you, done a few blood tests etc.
Obviously your case was reported and the near death added to the database of such events possibly attributable to vaccination.

As I asked, what evidence pointed to the vaccination, other than your "gut" feeling?

Haha.

Thats not what happens. They deny any link and scorned my mother for questioning them.

 

[Pie eyed]

Haha.

Thats not what happens. They deny any link and scorned my mother for questioning them.

In that case I feel you are either lying to bolster you argument or have scant recollection of the events and/or they never occurred.

Invoking those pesky "they"!
I suppose you are relying on your childhood memory and you mothers word. She probably gave you too much Brandy at bed time.

If you had in fact nearly died you would have been treated and both blood and urine tested. Your case would have been registered and you most likely would have received a backup examination and secondary blood and urine testing.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Well i did.

It was not instantaneous. I dont know how long exactly.

Just accept it as fact and deal with it.

Im not lying, or the only one.

Days to reach near death would suggest you had an allergic reaction, so what in the vaccine were you treated for.

How did they counter the effects?
Others might not have the guts to say so but I will.

Your full of shit. Severe allergic reactions happen because the body cannot counter metabolize the substance they are allergic to.

A standard allergic reaction occurs, your body fights it you get better on your own.

If it gets worse your body can't fight it on your own.

There's only 2 ways the process is stopped.
1) your given something else that counteracts what you were given
2) the substance leaves your body.

Now considering this lasted "days" we can rule out specifically that your body could force it out of your system.

So what we're you treated with?

If there was any truth to your statement you would know exactly what you were given to counteract the substance your allergic to this gives you a very specific list of things you could be allergic to.

Then when your stable they will give you a test where in the expose you to very small amounts of every possible substance that drug works on.

And Wallah we found out what caused the reaction.

Now I eagerly await you enlightening us on what happened and how you got better.

I'lldrop a tenner on "they didn't know what caused it or how to treat it, they just gave me fuilds and I got better"

No body reaches near death from a vaccine "days" later and gets better from flushing as your body can do that itself before you reach "days" in your reaction. Flushing is emergency response and has to be done within hours of symptoms.

My youngest sister is allergic to tons of shit it's a subject I know a **** load about.

 

[Niximus]

Well i did.

It was not instantaneous. I dont know how long exactly.

Just accept it as fact and deal with it.

Im not lying, or the only one.

If you're saying that you had whooping cough within days of being vaccinated then the vaccination is irrelevant as you would have either already been sick, or at the very least gotten sick before the vaccine was effective.

 

[vealesy]

Im not divulging any more details.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Im not divulging any more details.

Why?

 

[vealesy]

Because i dont have the details you want and i wont tolerate being called a liar.

The day a nurse tries to force a needle into me or my offspring is the day they get it put straight into their eye.
Legislation will not make me submit.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

I've already called you a liar, the only possible way to convince me otherwise is to provide more information which suggests your telling the truth.

Providing none just leads me to believe you don't have any as your making it up.

 

[Pie eyed]

Im not divulging any more details.

ROFL.
I refuse to answer any more questions as I may incriminate myself?
Or you may have to kill us?

Credibility meltdown.

 

[vealesy]

I have repeatedly told you lot i dont know the details you want.

I have no "evidence" and my stance is political. It is not based on research, it is based on experience, you know, that thing you get when you leave the computer screen. .

I dont need to prove anything or feel the need to. Get it yet?

 

[Power Raid]

Because folks should have the right to choose what goes into their body. That decision shouldn't be forced upon others due to the ideals of others.

that's true

All I am saying is people that make that choice have that choice. For anyone sitting next to them or subsidising their medicare, there choice has been stripped away.

As a response, people who do not vaccinate should no be allowed on public transport, access to public health, public education or access to government jobs.

It is the only fair that choice has consequences

 

[Pie eyed]

If you're going to make spurious claims of first hand experience then a basic knowledge of what may happen in such circumstance is a good starting point.
No good claiming to have had an electric shock if your finger was in a gas socket. It does not wash.

 

[Starburns_]

People should be "responsible" and allowed to make informed decisions on how they wish their children to be medicated. This is their right and responsibility. You do not take it out of parents hands to make informed decisions and put it into the control of the state.

LOL, "informed decisions".

If they choose to exercise the right to be foolish and refuse, then they can also choose to educate their children themselves. The state doesn't let you drive a car without receiving your license, as a safety measure for other road users. The same should apply to receiving a state-funded education.

Of course, this fails to recognise that a functioning society requires a level of self-sacrifice. Example: As part of a functioning society, you sacrifice your right to murder others. In exchange for that sacrifice, you gain the right to not be murdered yourself.

This thread makes me want to commit murder.

 

[vealesy]

that's true

All I am saying is people that make that choice have that choice. For anyone sitting next to them or subsidising their medicare, there choice has been stripped away.

As a response, people who do not vaccinate should no be allowed on public transport, access to public health, public education or access to government jobs.

It is the only fair that choice has consequences

Do i have a choice in paying the medicare levy? No. I rarely go to the doctor. I would be totally private if i was a sickly person, but i am not. I have to pay the levy anyway so on the odd visit due to a broken bone i go under the public system because i am forced to pay for it anyway. So there is no choice there. It is me subsidising others medicare, i guess that is leaching on others part there. Maybe i should not be forced to pay for it.

Public transport is not what you are using as the term "public". It is actually privately run, for use by anyone. You do not have to be a citizen to use it, you just have to pay a company for a ticket, if you choose.

There is not much choice with education. I would have no problem with not sending my offspring to government run propaganda camps. Sadly the alternative is religious nonsense indoctrination systems. I would prefer to home school, but the system we live in only affords that luxury to the insanely rich. I gotta get paid in this bankers paradise, yo.

And i would rather have polio than work for the Public sector. Just sayin.

 

[vealesy]

If you're going to make spurious claims of first hand experience then a basic knowledge of what may happen in such circumstance is a good starting point.
No good claiming to have had an electric shock if your finger was in a gas socket. It does not wash.

I do have basic knowledge of what happens.

I was tested a few times. I still remember when i had to piss in the cup and i got piss all over my light blue gown and was extremely embarrassed but i did not think that kind of information was relevant, but apparently that is proof?

I also remember my mother telling me not to worry. That the useless ****s at the hospital were not as clever as they like to think they are. She was right. Id take my mothers intuition over some GP or drug addicted nurses allegience to pharmaceuticals, any day.

 

[Power Raid]

Do i have a choice in paying the medicare levy? No. I rarely go to the doctor. I would be totally private if i was a sickly person, but i am not. I have to pay the levy anyway so on the odd visit due to a broken bone i go under the public system because i am forced to pay for it anyway. So there is no choice there. It is me subsidising others medicare, i guess that is leaching on others part there. Maybe i should not be forced to pay for it.

Public transport is not what you are using as the term "public". It is actually privately run, for use by anyone. You do not have to be a citizen to use it, you just have to pay a company for a ticket, if you choose.

There is not much choice with education. I would have no problem with not sending my offspring to government run propaganda camps. Sadly the alternative is religious nonsense indoctrination systems. I would prefer to home school, but the system we live in only affords that luxury to the insanely rich. I gotta get paid in this bankers paradise, yo.

And i would rather have polio than work for the Public sector. Just sayin.

It is not just about pressure and punishment (the denial of access to services) but also about choices.

If your not vaccinated, or your kids are not vaccinated, I want to retain my choice and not sit next to you.

When people sit on a bus, a plane, a train, in a school classroom, community park or hospital; they should be comforted to know they are not sitting next to a leach who could be a risk of spreading disease.

 

[vealesy]

Are you joking?

 

[Power Raid]

Are you joking?

if you find leaches are funny then yes. if you think leaches are leaches then no.

 

[vealesy]

Is it school holidays again?

 

[mantis]

if you find leaches are funny then yes. if you think leaches are leaches then no.

Just refer to him as "typhoid vealesy" from now on.

 

[Power Raid]

Is it school holidays again?

vealsey

you still haven't posted a link

I just can't understand your position. Care to share?

 

[vealesy]

if you find leaches are funny then yes. if you think leaches are leaches then no.

The ironic thing here is, leeches have fantastic healing qualities.

But im sure you won't believe that because they can't be injected at a clinic.

 

[vealesy]

vealsey

you still haven't posted a link

I just can't understand your position. Care to share?

Just google it.

http://www.amazingleeches.com/