Do hawthorns runners just Sprint around yelling COLA?
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Are "Runners" being used strategically by clubs?
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Do hawthorns runners just Sprint around yelling COLA?
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He most certainly did. What Lapin did was inexcusable, wouldn't have minded seeing Robinson dump him on the turf.
Should absolutely have been a free and I hope Geelong are fined.
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I think it's time the AFL got rid of runners altogether. The coaches & runners are just abusing their privilege. They are taking the piss. Do we really need these guys anyway? What do they add to the game? We have four players on the bench who rotate on and off the field at an average of 30 times per quarter. Why can't the interchange players relay the coach's message?
What other sport in the world allows "runners" carte-blanche to occupy space on the field of play for 95% of the game? Can you imagine runners in the NBA or in the soccer World Cup? Imagine the NHL ice hockey if their coaches were allowed to employ a messenger on skates. Imagine watching the Wimbledon final and each player had a runner on the baseline giving them messages from their coach in between points. It seems ridiculous, but this is exactly what we do in the AFL.
What other sport in the world allows "runners" carte-blanche to occupy space on the field of play for 95% of the game? Can you imagine runners in the NBA or in the soccer World Cup? Imagine the NHL ice hockey if their coaches were allowed to employ a messenger on skates. Imagine watching the Wimbledon final and each player had a runner on the baseline giving them messages from their coach in between points. It seems ridiculous, but this is exactly what we do in the AFL.
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I think the Solution here is to **** off runners and set up Hydration table's outside the boundry at each end, players can run off have a drink run back on as the ball comes down their end. 
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You have runners in U13's to go out and congratulate the new kid who just chased really well, I think with the 120 interchanges though it's unnecessary to have them in the AFL. I mean, half the time in a big game the players wank over "how loud the crowd was" so apparently runners are meaningless in that sense.
Time to **** the field cloggers for good I say. Will make umpiring a hell of a lot easier too without having to watch for deliberate intrusions. Look at the photo posted above, ol mate ump has his back to it, was never going to see it and pay it, doubt the other umps were looking at it to, so easiest solution to an unnecessary problem is to say bye-bye runners.
Time to **** the field cloggers for good I say. Will make umpiring a hell of a lot easier too without having to watch for deliberate intrusions. Look at the photo posted above, ol mate ump has his back to it, was never going to see it and pay it, doubt the other umps were looking at it to, so easiest solution to an unnecessary problem is to say bye-bye runners.
Yeah tonight was the final straw for mine, with so many rotations they aren't really necessary anymore they need to go.
Bard
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The issue could be that because all the runners wear the same colour garments the Umpire didn't know if he was a Carlton or Geelong runner, and didn't want to pay a free kick that would likely decide the game just in case it was a Carlton runner hindering a Carlton player.
Definitely need to get rid of runner's, and the particular one in question needs a seriously hefty fine /and/ games ban for this season. Absolutely deplorable.
Definitely need to get rid of runner's, and the particular one in question needs a seriously hefty fine /and/ games ban for this season. Absolutely deplorable.
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If he is in the way, he is in the way. It was irrelevant who the runner belonged to and it's a free kick every day of the week. It occurred in the Fremantle game and BT kept going on and on about the freo runner being the 19th man (which he was) but lappin was doing exactly the same thing. I don't know if all runners are doing it but you would have to presume so and if that's the case it's time to get rid of them. As someone else said, there are enough rotations for coaches to get the message across.
Runners have been conveniently 'filling space' whenever they have the opportunity ever since I've been watching the game.
angrynaut
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He didn't just slip into Robinson, he then ran around and filled space for the last ball up. Interfering twice is pretty blatant.
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-06-06/is-the-cats-runner-interfering
LukeParkerno1
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I just wish there was a rule where a runner can ONLY go on in a stoppage (i.e. throw in, goal OR injury)
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Geelong should be banned from using any runners for the remainder of the year, see how many other teams try any funny business.
An example should be made of him. Fine the club, ban the runner if possible, and impose sanctions on the club (eg no runner for 5 weeks). There's no place in the game for that.
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A solution would be to ban runners entering the defensive 50. If they enter their own attacking 50 they're only clogging up their own teams space. If they enter the defensive 50 automatic free and 50 metre penalty. That would stop it pretty quickly.
MattyB_76
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Dumbest thing I've heard today. So if the Carlton runner gets in the way of a Carlton player, Carlton should get a free kick?
I remember in a game last year the opposition runners were dressed in a dark kit, and making some pretty well-timed runs into space on the wing when the Blues were clearing the defensive 50. Can't remember which team it was.
Pretty sure the Blues honoured their leads at least twice tho
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It is a disgrace to the game that they even exist.
But this isn't about sense. It is about a system that pays people to be 'multi-cultural ambassadors'. It is a system that pays people like Brad Johnson, who bursts into laughter on national TV and is literally speechless when challenged as to what exactly it is the AFL pays him for. It is a system that employs Danny Frawley to head a union-like organisation that does nothing and has no ability to protect its members in any shape or form. Too many people with too many meaningless jobs. And too much collective lobbying power to lose them.
You get rid of runners, and it may also cost a couple of people in the box their jobs too. Head coach loses a small amount of perceived power to control the situation. They don't like admitting that they have less control of the situation than they think they have. All Nigel Lappin achieved in the game was putting himself into a position that should have cost his team the match if it wasn't for a gutless umpire.
You get rid of runners, all it does is make messages have to go through the interchange and teams to rely a little more on leaders that are actually playing the farking game that is currently taking place.
But this isn't about sense. It is about a system that pays people to be 'multi-cultural ambassadors'. It is a system that pays people like Brad Johnson, who bursts into laughter on national TV and is literally speechless when challenged as to what exactly it is the AFL pays him for. It is a system that employs Danny Frawley to head a union-like organisation that does nothing and has no ability to protect its members in any shape or form. Too many people with too many meaningless jobs. And too much collective lobbying power to lose them.
You get rid of runners, and it may also cost a couple of people in the box their jobs too. Head coach loses a small amount of perceived power to control the situation. They don't like admitting that they have less control of the situation than they think they have. All Nigel Lappin achieved in the game was putting himself into a position that should have cost his team the match if it wasn't for a gutless umpire.
You get rid of runners, all it does is make messages have to go through the interchange and teams to rely a little more on leaders that are actually playing the farking game that is currently taking place.
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I remember in a game last year the opposition runners were dressed in a dark kit, and making some pretty well-timed runs into space on the wing when the Blues were clearing the defensive 50. Can't remember which team it was.
Pretty sure the Blues honoured their leads at least twice tho
Port or Hawthorn maybe?
If the example was to be set it should have been set with the Freo runner constantly interfering in the Geelong game a few weeks back. Instead the AFL said he just had a bad day and gave no penalty (making it seem like a good thing for all clubs to do) ... Guess Nigel just had a bad day also
You're joking right?
I'd say if you look at all the free kicks paid against runners 95% won't be as bad an infringement as this one, for which no free was paid.
It doesn't matter if he slipped, he ran through one of the game's most crucial stoppages and made contact with a Carlton player. Then proceeded to run around the space around the stoppage - potentially gamechanging.
The club should cop a massive fine and he should receive a ban for a certain period imo.
I can only imagine what an outsider who has never seen the game would be thinking - "which team does he play for?"
It doesn't matter if he slipped, he ran through one of the game's most crucial stoppages and made contact with a Carlton player. Then proceeded to run around the space around the stoppage - potentially gamechanging.
The club should cop a massive fine and he should receive a ban for a certain period imo.
I can only imagine what an outsider who has never seen the game would be thinking - "which team does he play for?"
Oh, please stop crying about that game like you were victims - for all the beat up Darcy and BT were doing about the Freo runner, the reality is both runners were out on the field for significant amounts of time and in various areas of the playing field.
There was one particularly damning shot of your runner hanging around one of the stoppages like an outside player waiting for the ball to pop out, much like one instance in this game. And no comment was made on it during the broadcast.
Our runner was penalised with a free against during that game, and rightfully so.
However, whatever he was doing is nothing compared to having a runner out there in the dying seconds of the game (what message would the coach be sending out at that point in the game that would justify standing there during a crucial play?) in your opposition's congested forward fifty when they are in scoring position?
Umps should have taken control of that situation, thrown runner off, and paid the free kick.
craffles
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I think the Solution here is to **** off runners and set up Hydration table's outside the boundry at each end, players can run off have a drink run back on as the ball comes down their end.
that would definitely end in tears, someone would collide with it and launch a lawsuit ten years after their career is finished
