Ashes 2021/22

[magpiemaniac44]

England have played 20 tests since the start of the pandemic. Australia have played just 4. The arrogance is from Australia believing that England owe them a tour when they've done sfa to help international cricket the past two years.

We were one of the first to tour England last year, when COVID was ripping through the UK. If England are going to sook about India pulling out of the 5th test imagine the double standards if they don't turn up here. The Ashes is the most important test series in the world and should take priority over other series. I thought England were load managing their players so this didn't happen. It's a load of crap.

 

[Santana]

I could see the ECB sending out a second-string team. They are more about meeting broadcaster requirements than anything else.

The ECB has created this situation where some multi-format players have been in a form of bubble for the past 18 months because of their ridiculous scheduling, internationally and domestically.

If a player revolt results in a B team coming out here and getting thrashed, maybe it might force a re-think at the ECB about whether they need to try and fill every day of the calendar with cricket.

I always thought worst case scenario was England sending a B team over but that statement has even got me thinking there's a small chance they completely pull out. Probably just smoke from the ECB though. But still, this whole thing has been terrible press for the sport.

That's not arrogance. It's about having a decent, and not selective, memory of the past year and a half.

What you just wrote is total garbage.

It's almost like 2 England summers have just happened to fall within the pandemic, while just one for Australia so far. England also just happened to have an Indian test tour already lined up. Not to mention it being a T20 World Cup year, so some are probably keen to play some white ball cricket leading up to it.

Australia has played the 2nd most amount of Test Matches the last 10 years. But let's just get some selective memory going for our own agendas.

 

[Santana]

England have played 20 tests since the start of the pandemic. Australia have played just 4. The arrogance is from Australia believing that England owe them a tour when they've done sfa to help international cricket the past two years.

Australia going on 3 white ball tours this year against smaller nations = doing sfa to help international cricket

Great insight. Do you know what may keep that number at 4? These w***ers pulling out last minute because they don't want their families doing hard quarantine. And yes, England owes us this tour. They probably still think we'll just show up there in 2023 like nothing has happened too.

 

[swingdog]

Australia going on 3 white ball tours this year against smaller nations = doing sfa to help international cricket

Great insight. Do you know what may keep that number at 4? These w***ers pulling out last minute because they don't want their families doing hard quarantine. And yes, England owes us this tour. They probably still think we'll just show up there in 2023 like nothing has happened too.

The thing is, we will.

 

[Santana]

The thing is, we will.

Not without some serious compensation. Channel 7 are going to raise hell.

 

[swingdog]

Not without some serious compensation. Channel 7 are going to raise hell.

As far as the ECB is concerned, that's CA's problem. T know the SACB sought compensation from CA over its cancelled tour of South Africa but did they ever get any?

South Africa questions Aussie ‘sportsmanship’ in letter to ICC over axed tour

South Africa questions Aussie ‘sportsmanship’ in letter to ICC over axed tour

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Santana]

As far as the ECB is concerned, that's CA's problem. T know the SACB sought compensation from CA over its cancelled tour of South Africa but did they ever get any?

South Africa questions Aussie ‘sportsmanship’ in letter to ICC over axed tour

South Africa questions Aussie ‘sportsmanship’ in letter to ICC over axed tour

www.foxsports.com.au

The CA-ECB relationship is reciprocal. No way are we going to be financially devastated over this and England won't feel a lot of it themselves. Some people don't seem to get that.

No they didn't. Don't think they went that far. We should have at least covered the costs of the biosecure protocols they set up though.

 

[BStaff17]

We arent covering ourselves with glory that Victoria and NSW cant even play state cricket atm because state governments wont let them even quarantine.

In saying that if england's top tier players dont want to come that's fine pick the next bunch. They have 18 county teams with squads of 20 plus.

I am sure there are 20 county players over there that would pay their own way over here to just play test cricket for england something a lot of them wouldn't get to experience.

 

[swingdog]

We arent covering ourselves with glory that Victoria and NSW cant even play state cricket atm because state governments wont let them even quarantine.

In saying that if england's top tier players dont want to come that's fine pick the next bunch. They have 18 county teams with squads of 20 plus.

I am sure there are 20 county players over there that would pay their own way over here to just play test cricket for england something a lot of them wouldn't get to experience.

Not devaluing the Ashes at all. Plus Channel 7 would be really happy with 2 day tests.

 

[to1994]

Cricket Australia made their bed. Since hanging Steve Smith out to dry they've avoided as much Test Cricket as possible and in that time we've basically only played England and India (twice) outside of a couple of home series.

Despite the security risks I reckon the English players would rather tour Bangladesh at the moment compared to us which is embarrassing, I understand that the quarantine stuff isn't CA's fault, but they were happy to take the conservative approach when it meant avoiding a tour of South Africa but expect special treatment in return because it's a cash rich series.

I understand why Tim Paine is concerned, if the series is called off and no replacement is lined up he's probably played his last Test. Mentally, he's probably already retired post this summer so I can't see him backflipping on that and going on multiple SC tours in hopes he's still in good enough form to make next summer.

The sad thing is, this decision probably means some smaller nations get thrown to the wayside by CA and told if they don't come this summer their tours next year get cancelled. Period.

 

[Scratchy05]

Lets say england were to pull out, it leaves us with no international men's cricket. Do We try and get New Zealand to tour?

 

[Scratchy05]

Honestly, I believe cricket is not lucky but smart they invested into women cricket. I think if womens cricket wasn't in such a strong state, this covid period could've killed cricket. I don't blame England if they don't tour because we didn't tour South Africa.

 

[Taylor]

Honestly, I believe cricket is not lucky but smart they invested into women cricket. I think if womens cricket wasn't in such a strong state, this covid period could've killed cricket. I don't blame England if they don't tour because we didn't tour South Africa.

It will be interesting because CA said it wasn't going to be safe to have players there with such covid spread, well England has way more covid that Australia

 

[holybishop]

Ashes tour on as England skipper confirms he'll come

England captain Joe Root has committed to this summer's Ashes tour, reports the UK's Daily Telegraph newspaper, with official confirmation that England will send a near full-strength team to come later in the week.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Santana]

Lets say england were to pull out, it leaves us with no international men's cricket. Do We try and get New Zealand to tour?

New Zealand is doing a short tour of India that ends on the 7th of December, so that would have been very hard. If we are going to take the World Test Championship seriously we are meant to play the West Indies & South Africa at home, so we would had to convince them to come last minute.

There would have been some Men's international Cricket. New Zealand & Sri Lanka are coming for white ball tours.

 

[corbies]

Lets say england were to pull out, it leaves us with no international men's cricket. Do We try and get New Zealand to tour?

Maybe we should tour New Zealand? It's their cricket season too.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I love how NZ is always the side people throws up as 'hey, let's just add a NZ team to the BBL' or 'hey, let's just get NZ to tour instead.'

They're the reigning World Test Champs (should also be ODI champs), we're a bunch of gimps who have barely played a Test in two or three years.

 

[Taylor]

We can pay tests at the WACA, Optus, Adelaide Oval and Hobart with crowds.

 

[corbies]

I love how NZ is always the side people throws up as 'hey, let's just add a NZ team to the BBL' or 'hey, let's just get NZ to tour instead.'

They're the reigning World Test Champs (should also be ODI champs), we're a bunch of gimps who have barely played a Test in two or three years.

The level of disrespect that the average Australian cricket fan shows NZ cricket should be rightfully called out and demonstrates how little we as a country follow or care about cricket outside the Australian summer.

However, New Zealand haven't exactly been playing a heap of Test cricket since the pandemic started. They've played 7 and in 2 of those they rested a heap of players. They've contributed to this process that international cricket has become whereby teams are falling over themselves to avoid touring somewhere. They pulled out of Bangladesh for the exact same reason we pulled out of SA.

They were extremely lucky to make the WTC final given their record and the teams they played. Australia has no one to blame but themselves and their idiotic tactical decisions for not making that final and NZ were due some luck but there isn't exactly a big difference in ability between the gimps and world champs.

 

[Santana]

I love how NZ is always the side people throws up as 'hey, let's just add a NZ team to the BBL' or 'hey, let's just get NZ to tour instead.'

They're the reigning World Test Champs (should also be ODI champs), we're a bunch of gimps who have barely played a Test in two or three years.

In the last 3 years they have literally played one more test than us. While since the pandemic kicked off they've played 3 more, all 3 of those tests wouldn't have happened if they didn't sneak into the WTC final so donno, great point I guess?

 

[Santana]

Also the disrespect towards the WTC is a bit weird since it was such a big hit apparently.

Guys, we played New Zealand at home during the last WTC, we can't again during this current WTC. If you want the WTC to be taken seriously, then start taking it seriously.

 

[Scratchy05]

Maybe we should tour New Zealand? It's their cricket season too.

Money lost from ticket sales though would be huge. Maybe some kind of agreement like 3 tests Aus, 3 tests NZ limited overs matches in both nations as well.

 

[t_94]

I love how NZ is always the side people throws up as 'hey, let's just add a NZ team to the BBL' or 'hey, let's just get NZ to tour instead.'

They're the reigning World Test Champs (should also be ODI champs), we're a bunch of gimps who have barely played a Test in two or three years.

To be fair New Zealand are routinely pumped whenever Australia play them in test matches.Especially last time when everyone built the up and they were horrendous.

 

[katana]

To be fair New Zealand are routinely pumped whenever Australia play them in test matches.Especially last time when everyone built the up and they were horrendous.

would love to see smith and lab playing jamieson on a seaming nz deck, would be a good contest. we'd hose them here though.

 

[Gethelred]

As far as the ECB is concerned, that's CA's problem. T know the SACB sought compensation from CA over its cancelled tour of South Africa but did they ever get any?

South Africa questions Aussie ‘sportsmanship’ in letter to ICC over axed tour

South Africa questions Aussie ‘sportsmanship’ in letter to ICC over axed tour

www.foxsports.com.au

I think it's amusing to be lectured on sportsmanship by a cricketing board who endorsed the wearing of those masks.