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It is pretty good at the soccer. But it can get rather nasty especially when there are two rivals playing against eachother.
The afl atmosphere is much better.
The afl atmosphere is much better.
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I am so pleased that people with Anglo sounding names are included.
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People (such as the bloke your arguing with, and i think he's just trying to wind you up) seem to disregard the benefits of having clubs segregated on ethic or other lines.
Just look at Brazil, virtually all their clubs can be roughly categorized into ethnic and/or socio economic groups.
Having segregated clubs allows for a wide range of players to be produced, as different clubs value certain aspects of the game differently (incidentally this holds for junior footy as well)
My main worry about the A-league is whether or not it will be able to take the raw talent and develop it into as many great players as the NSL did.
I think you mean there will be no MONO ethnic teams in the A League, ie teams representing one single ethnic minority. That is correct.
However each of the expansion teams of Townsville, Canberra and Wollongong will have MULTI ethnic teams, similar to the teams in the current A League.
That is one great advantage of soccer, they can hire players from all over the world, over 200 countries in fact. What Australia has to offer them is playing in a young league, and a great life in the greatest country on earth.
The current A League represents a real microcosm of the soccer world, with players from Australia, New Zealand, China, Korea, Germany, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, England, Scotland, Ireland, Ivory Coast and so on.
The supporters are a similar mixed bunch, with the majority being young Aussies in their early twenties.
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What you fail to acknowlege is that aussies don't need to hire sportsmen or women from eslewhere.We are world class, no cultural cringe. Hockey, swimming, track, even speed skating! Aussie Football has world class athletes, many of whom have competed over time in Olympic events. Why buy from the 2$ shop when you can buy from the best!
I don't know.
I'd take a lot of international players on my team over Australian players, that's for sure.
I'd take a lot of international players on my team over Australian players, that's for sure.
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I guess collingwood would recruit from Iraq if they could.
Once footy starts to take off in places like the US, Denmark and South Africa, and they start producing footy players of their own, the AFL will quite rightly be ecstatic about players coming from these countries to play for Australian clubs.
Just look at the media coverage that one Irish player gets.
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Totally agree, can't wait for the first U.S. grown footballer to play AFL. Then again someone might know of a US born player that has all ready palyed AFL>
Adrian Barich, although i'd hardly call him a seppo.
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Yes there is. You're comparing Australia a country of only 20 mil to America with a population of about 300 mil. Really we have 3 major sports, footy and RL in the winter and cricket in the summer. Then we have soccer which is a winter sport in the summer. A lot of this has to do with aussies loving their sport.
Absolutely 100% wrong. Lowy has made it perfectly clear that the FFA will not support any club with cultural ties to enter the A-league. The A-league was set up to do exactly the opposite of what the NSL represented.
My understanding is that currently bids from Wollongong and Nth QLD are in the pipe line.
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I can't see a club being successful anywhere in Nth QLD as there are only towns up there and they love league, not even the Cowboys can survive on their own.
If the A-League is ever going to truly flourish then they need second teams in Sydney and Melbourne and even if they create a brand new team from scratch they could easily get a divide in the ethnic groups.
what i mean't was what you said. There will be no South Melbourne Hellas, Marconi, Melbourne Knights etc. That is not to say that only anglos will go to watch A-League.
Having been to some of the Victory's matches, there is a wide range of races represented, all supporting the Victory, not some country on the other side of the planet
I have heard that North Queensland has financial backing from BHP.
Marconi may have a tilt at A-League entry
November 22 2006
MARCONI could push to join the A-League if former championship-winning coach Berti Mariani succeeds in gaining political control of the club — once among the richest licensed clubs in NSW.
Mariani will this Sunday stand for the club presidency, and his bid to oust incumbent Tony Campolongo is largely based on restoring football at Bossley Park to its former glory.
Mariani has pledged to push for an A-League franchise to give Sydney FC a genuine local derby. Four-time winner in the old National Soccer League, Club Marconi decided against bidding to join the A-League despite an offer from a consortium of local businessmen to partly fund a re-badged team.
Mariani believes the club's 25,000 members remain unhappy with the Stallions' modest status in the NSW Premier League, and want a return to top-level soccer — despite a $25 million debt.
A year ago, Mariani went to the polls with the same platform and lost by just over 100 votes, but he hasn't been deterred. "There are two aspects the club needs to address. First and foremost is the financial position and the reduction of the debt. But hand in hand with that is the ability to participate in the A-League at the highest level," he said. "Five years ago, Marconi was the benchmark. Now it's playing in the state league, and overall it's an after-thought in terms of Australian soccer. At the moment the club is spending about the same amount of money in the state league as it would in the A-League. That's why this makes sense."
Mariani is aiming for 2009 as an entry point.
■BHP Billiton is believed to be the backer for a proposed North Queensland franchise, with a working title of Tropical Football, which plans to enter in 2008-09.
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http://www.theage.com.au/handheld/articles/2006/11/21/1163871408253.html
I'm unsure as to what you mean by the last statement, but would agree that another team in sydney and Melbourne will inevitably happen in the future, and importantly so. However, the FFA simply grants licences to consortiums that met the benchmark criteria, and if the bif from nth QLD fits the bill, then so be it.
Central Coast were written off as a disaster at the start of the league, yet they have harnessed the support really well. Townsville, I believe, has a pop. of 160K, so it's not dis-similar to Central coast in size. Like the other codes as well, football/soccer is not competing with RL in order to attract fans.
I have lived in Sydney for 35 years, and not once have I heard somebody refer to AFL as 'footy' or 'football'. That has been always given to rugby and RL. However, in the last 3 years or so, it has become commonplace for people to refer to 'soccer' as football. It's what most of the media calls it here, and it's what alot of people call it. It does cause confusion at times, but it's accepted. Particulalry so now that the home town A-league club is Sydney FC (football club)
What you've got is a right wing government that supports its potential athletes extremely well (compared to most other countries) added to a 'work hard' mentality.
Leyton Hewitt's a good example. Made himself a great carreer out of working hard, yet he's remarkably unpopular outside of Australia (I've followed tennis for 20 years and have never known a player who's that unpopular) and honestly, I'm still to meet a neutral tennis fan who actually enjoys watching one of his games.
There's more to sport. The sports you name are mainly elite sports - it's not too hard to be the best compared to other sports. Give the French government some time and money to invest in hockey and in 10 years time they'll probably be top of the world.
Swimming? Is only about money. Aussie rules? Well no one else does it, for sure you're the best. And by a country mile
.If you want to be the best, play the best. How about challenging in a sport that is played worldwide, requires 100% skill and delivers pure beauty?
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The best sporting nation on the planet (USA) don't play soccer so it not against the best in the world. Also a very small % of people in China and India play the sport so theres over a third of the world your not competing against. Bangladesh, Pakistan and Indonesia don't have a real setup for the sport so there's another 600mil. If we wanted to compete against the best in the world we should play NFL because that's the biggest sport in the undisputed best sporting nation on earth.
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I was at the cricket tonight and a group of about 30 Melbourne Victory fans came in, gave us some soccer chants and then left after 5 overs singing "Cricket is a s&1t sport."
The atmosphere cerainly improved after they left.
The atmosphere cerainly improved after they left.
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