Australia will grow to like Tony Abbott as PM

[Dan26]

Bumped for a chuckle. Thanks to Gough for the reminder in another thread.

Ol Tone doing a good job on the pollie pedal at the moment, raising money for breast cancer and Diabetes among other things (which was an initiative inspired by him).

You can not like whoever you choose. I don't care. That's the great thing about democracy. I think Tone's a good bloke.

 

[madmug]

Ol Tone doing a good job on the pollie pedal at the moment, raising money for breast cancer and Diabetes among other things (which was an initiative inspired by him).

You can not like whoever you choose. I don't care. That's the great thing about democracy. I think Tone's a good bloke.

Doing some community good is fantastic. As it is for the many other lower profile people who do good works.

One can argue his politics, but what he was, was an excellent leader of an opposition. A real attack dog.

On the other hand, he was a crap PM. He never stopped attacking the other side, kept on like he was in election mode. ie he forgot to lead, he forgot he was PM.

Eating a raw onion & threatening to head but Putin are just about all he's remembered for.

That & 4 investigations into the 4 deaths in the roof insulation program of 2009. Its a pity he was so officious when it came the death. misery & massive cost caused by the illegal Robodebt disaster.

 

[Gough]

Mostly he sat in his office, let Credlin do the heavy lifting while he imagined himself as Churchill on Manly Cove.

 

[sherb]

He showed what a **** he is when the SSM referendum vote occurred.

He ignored the wishes of his electorate (who voted overwhelmingly yes) by abstaining.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Strange reading the number of posters saying whatever you think of him as a politician, he’s a top bloke in person. Always struck me as exactly the sort of DH I can’t stand. No thanks.

 

[Pie eyed]

Ol Tone doing a good job on the pollie pedal at the moment, raising money for breast cancer and Diabetes among other things (which was an initiative inspired by him).

You can not like whoever you choose. I don't care. That's the great thing about democracy. I think Tone's a good bloke.

Abbott has never done a good in his life.
Piece of shit in every way.
Even God doesn't want him.

 

[Dan26]

Abbott has never done a good in his life.
Piece of s**t in every way.
Even God doesn't want him.

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[Pie eyed]

Strange reading the number of posters saying whatever you think of him as a politician, he’s a top bloke in person. Always struck me as exactly the sort of DH I can’t stand. No thanks.

I have met him as a Young Liberal, as a member of the Opposition and as the PM.
First class piece of shit all round.
Others are entitled to their opinion, however "balance" is a bullshit term created to explain away right wing lies.

 

[kickazz]

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He holds a hose, mate.

 

[kickazz]

BA Santamaria as a mentor. Nuff said.

 

[LeakyValve]

BA Santamaria as a mentor. Nuff said.

Coupla knobs jawing about the great man. Also recall my mum hushing us when BA showed up nightly on the Pye tele. She was DLP to her very marrow.



Phillip Adams did give us "Ratbags" so he is not too objectionable.

 

[Schneebly11]

Strange reading the number of posters saying whatever you think of him as a politician, he’s a top bloke in person.

Not a single BF poster has ever met the guy, or any other prominent politician, beyond a 20 second campaign stop chat which gives you zero insight into that person’s psyche, attitudes, behaviours and personality. They could be a top bloke, or a psychopathic nutjob.

FYI I’ve known people who have had quite a bit to do with politicians, I asked “who are the most universally hated ones behind the scenes” and the response was “the Bishops. Both of them”……

 

[Schneebly11]

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I come from a background of rural firefighters and know plenty of them. There are terrific people, and some absolute scumbags. Their status as a volunteer is to be commended, but some take the role more seriously than others who are only in it to put something on their resume.

Abbott should be commended for volunteering, but beyond that it gives him no kudos or credence beyond that role, and does not determine whether or not he was a suitable PM

 

[Dan26]

Not a single BF poster has ever met the guy, or any other prominent politician, beyond a 20 second campaign stop chat which gives you zero insight into that person’s psyche, attitudes, behaviours and personality. They could be a top bloke

FYI I’ve known people who have had quite a bit to do with politicians, I asked “who are the most universally hated ones behind the scenes” and the response was “the Bishops. Both of them”……

Most anecdotal evidence from what people have said say that if you don’t like Tone it must mean you’ve never met him.

And they say the opposite about Kevin Rudd. If you like him, it must mean you’ve never met him.

I’ve heard that anecdotally a few times. There are lots of bad people in politics. Abbott certainly isn’t one of them. Not that you’ll get any sort of objective analysis from the left. No one hates like the left - I think that’s because of the collectivist mindset, which would be an interesting psychological topic on its own.

 

[NSWCROW]

He showed what a **** he is when the SSM referendum vote occurred.

He ignored the wishes of his electorate (who voted overwhelmingly yes) by abstaining.

 

[NSWCROW]

Got the biggest rails-run from the media in this countrys history.

 

[kickazz]

He showed what a **** he is when the SSM referendum vote occurred.

He ignored the wishes of his electorate (who voted overwhelmingly yes) by abstaining.

Gutless. Either represent your electors (that's your job, it's The House off Representatives after all) or have the guts to vote the other way if you believe in it enough.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Gutless. Either represent your electors (that's your job, it's The House off Representatives after all) or have the guts to vote the other way if you believe in it enough.

Don't forget he was so pissed in parliament one time he slept through an important vote.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

So ****ing lucky that Morrison came along and will probably take most of the historical attention off him as giant dickhead, religious nuffy who flailed through being PM when his actual competence level was more suited to being late shift manager at Melton Maccas as best.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Don't forget he was so pissed in parliament one time he slept through an important vote.

 

[Pie eyed]

Got the biggest rails-run from the media in this countrys history.

He was blowing Rupert daily his entire career.
Credlin has taken over.

 

[Schneebly11]

Most anecdotal evidence from what people have said say that if you don’t like Tone it must mean you’ve never met him.

So you've know a large group of people who have got to know Tones on a personal level? One must say they have had a lot to do with him because they are fellow like minded Liberals or conservatives. Of course someone who shares their views is a 'good bloke'.

By the same standards Albo apparently isn't a bad bloke, likes a beer, watching the NRL, a live music set or the occasional go at spinning the turntables. But this has nothing to do with his performance on the job (so far incredibly better than Tones).

 

[Pie eyed]

Most anecdotal evidence from what people have said say that if you don’t like Tone it must mean you’ve never met him.

And they say the opposite about Kevin Rudd. If you like him, it must mean you’ve never met him.

I’ve heard that anecdotally a few times. There are lots of bad people in politics. Abbott certainly isn’t one of them. Not that you’ll get any sort of objective analysis from the left. No one hates like the left - I think that’s because of the collectivist mindset, which would be an interesting psychological topic on its own.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but don't minimise the opinions of people who have known him over a long period of time.
Abbott was pissing on everyday people in the early 1980's.
I have known him since 1980.
Maybe your judgement is impaired or you have sociopathic tendencies like Abbott and identify?

For what it's worth.

John Gorton - very lovely man, only met him after he was deposed as PM but knew him on and off until his death.
Malcolm Fraser - Aloof, but actually a good person.
Hawke - great bloke Met daily for several years when he was PM, had dinner with formally several times.
Keating - Met daily for a year or so while he was PM, very personable, nowhere near as friendly as Hawke, but obviously had a lot of care for his staff and those around him.
Howard - Met him often while he was Treasurer, then Opposition leader, but never as PM, Very rude, arrogant and no time for anyone but himself.
Rudd- Never met him one on one. Had formal dinners with him twice with a large group. Seemed dry, droll and dull. Not a people person.
Gillard - Never met her so won't comment.
Abbott - Already well commented on.
Turnbull - Met him several times professionally, seemed exactly like his on camera persona. Stilted and uneasy, At least had some forward looking vision.
Morrison - Never met him luckily. Religious lunatic, totally incompetent in every facet, the definition of a failed human life, the last resort of Murdoch and a party desperate for another term to steal as much as possible from the people. Rushing everyone else toward the "rapture'. Would euthanase in a heartbeat.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

This chroncally underestimated politician is on the verge of being our next Prime Minister. And one of the more frustrating things out there in voting-land is hearing comments such as "Oh I can't stand Abbott." It's so ignorant, and shows litle understanding of the man. He was laughed at when he became oppositon leader because Labor though they would trounce him. He always proves people wrong. And for those doubting his effectivness as PM, he will prove them wrong too. And the public will eventually see him for what he is: A deeply principled, highly intelligent, man of convicton.

I like Abbott, and I always have. I think he will grow to become one of Australia most popular Prime Ministers. His personal, intellectual and moral calibre, combined with his ministerial experience, has the makings of a great prime minister IMO.

Consider his Background. He was a student leader, a ladies man, liked a drink, was a top sportsman and also a Rhodes scholar at Oxford. Oh, and and a journalist. He then settles down to become a long-term married suburban guy with a mortgage.

Since he became opposiiton leader, he has been remarkably discipliend, but before he becamse opposition leader he was prone to a public confession, or a verbal slip-up. That's okay. It's a welcome change from the "calculated concealment" you often see among politicians. There is nothing phony about him. What you see is what you get. Even his detractors will admit this.

The reaosn I think the country will grow to like him, is because he has conviction, courage and intelligence. I honestly don't think he is easily swayed by fashionable opinion about anything. He believes in what he believes in. He's not some right-wing nutter. That's total crap. He bases his convictions on reasoned, measured argument.

Take his convictions. Around the time of all the ETS talk it was regarded as political suicide to oppose anything to do with climate change. He took on the journalists, the business community, the ALP and even members of his own party over the emissions trading scheme. And he won. Many thought his his opposition to the ETS would wipe out the Liberals. But by highlighting the dangers of creating a permanent bureaucracy of huge cost and size he called Kevin Rudd's bluff. It foced Labor into a policy retreat. He totally owned Rudd. And he has totally owned Gillard too.

He is going to single-handedly bring down two Labor Prime Ministers.

But what I really like is his character and decency. He has no enemies at all in the Liberal party. He has worked hard and been loyal for years and years and that loyalty hs been rewarded. Yes, I'm sure there are ambitious types - like Turnbull - who want to lead the country, but that doesn't make him an enemy. Abbott has no enemies.

So, if you agree with me, tell me why you like Tony Abbott, and why you think the country will grow to like and respect him.

Banger post from the most dedicated pest on this site.

 

[Schneebly11]

Oh F**k off dickhead.

Send your daughters to the front lines as cannon fodder first Tony:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/abbott-urges-national-service-for-schoolleavers/news-story/d4ffd0bb580fb9789d9f1382405ff3c3?amp&nk=5c8d6d9c54280de7650918b1ea5d91e3-1667744764