Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Crow till I die]

You quite literally are still yet to expose a single conspiracy theory.

I'm actually amazed you still don't know what a conspiracy theory.

I can only assume that's deliberate or it's your medication talking (be that prescribed or otherwise)

EFA - you left out the conspiracy theory emoji used after each good conspiracy theory

 

[Crow till I die]

Says this bloke too.

Imagine thinking you know more than an Oxford epidemiologist who conducted the most thorough research on masks to date?

That’s cooker central bud

There is jut no educating the great unwashed here Pete

Still, I had quite a chuckle at Caps conspiracy theories that we revisited - breaks up the mundane preseason

Now where was that fella that moaned about Anzac day waking him up early

 

[Bearded Clam]

I just debunked your post as Covid is also exhaled in particles as well as droplets. You are free to delete your posts to save face if you like

Alright its clear we need to really, and I mean really, dumb it down so lets do so..

and we’ll do it with a hypothetical..

If some random person approached you in the street with a gun and said..

“I’ve got covid and you’ve got three options;

1) I shoot you in the face with this gun I’m holding or
2) I cough in your face or
3) I cough in your face but I’ll be wearing a mask when I do it..

which one option are you choosing?

Just give us all a simple 1, 2 or 3.. nothing else.

Go on… take your time.. think it through..

 

[Cap]

EFA - you left out the conspiracy theory emoji used after each good conspiracy theory

This doesn't even make any sense.

 

[Crow till I die]

Says this bloke too.

Imagine thinking you know more than an Oxford epidemiologist who conducted the most thorough research on masks to date?

That’s cooker central bud

Approximately Zero

Masks make no difference in reducing the spread of Covid, according to an extensive new review.

www.city-journal.org

 

[Crow till I die]

Alright its clear we need to really, and I mean really, dumb it down so lets do so..

and we’ll do it with a hypothetical..

If some random person approached you in the street with a gun and said..

“I’ve got covid and you’ve got three options;

1) I shoot you in the face with this gun I’m holding or
2) I cough in your face or
3) I cough in your face but I’ll be wearing a mask when I do it..

which one option are you choosing?

Just give us all a simple 1, 2 or 3.. nothing else.

Go on… take your time.. think it through..

When talking about a cloth mask there is no difference between 2 & 3 - so either 2 or 3 and its the same risk - based on the comprehensive study undertaken by Cochrane

Approximately Zero

Masks make no difference in reducing the spread of Covid, according to an extensive new review.

www.city-journal.org

But if he breathed on someone then shot him, they would have listed it as a Covid death

We good now?

 

[Bearded Clam]

Says this bloke too.

Imagine thinking you know more than an Oxford epidemiologist who conducted the most thorough research on masks to date?

That’s cooker central bud

Oh dear..

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/scicheck-what-the-cochrane-review-says-about-masks-for-covid-19-and-what-it-doesnt/

fact checked and debunked..

“12 RESEARCH STUDIES PROVE MASKS DIDN’T WORK,” reads an Instagram post about the Cochrane review from the Liberty Counsel, a Christian religious liberty organization.
“Scientific review confirms doubters’ stance on masks and COVID-19,” declared a popular Instagram post from Fox News.

The lead author of the Cochrane review, Tom Jefferson, seemed to endorse this interpretation when he said in an interview, later quoted by conservative columnist Bret Stephens in a widely viewed opinion piece for the New York Times, “There is just no evidence that they” — referring to masks — “make any difference.”

But experts — and the Cochrane Library — say this is an inaccurate representation of what the review found.”

 

[Cap]

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/scicheck-what-the-cochrane-review-says-about-masks-for-covid-19-and-what-it-doesnt/

Once again a medical study is misinterpreted

experts — and the Cochrane Library — say this is an inaccurate representation of what the review found.

“Many commentators have claimed that a recently-updated Cochrane Review shows that ‘masks don’t work’, which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation,” Dr. Karla Soares-Weiser, the editor-in-chief of the Cochrane Library, said in a March 10 statement.

“It would be accurate to say that the review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses, and that the results were inconclusive,” she continued. “Given the limitations in the primary evidence, the review is not able to address the question of whether mask-wearing itself reduces people’s risk of contracting or spreading respiratory viruses.”

 

[Cap]

Oh dear..

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/scicheck-what-the-cochrane-review-says-about-masks-for-covid-19-and-what-it-doesnt/

fact checked and debunked..

“12 RESEARCH STUDIES PROVE MASKS DIDN’T WORK,” reads an Instagram post about the Cochrane review from the Liberty Counsel, a Christian religious liberty organization.
“Scientific review confirms doubters’ stance on masks and COVID-19,” declared a popular Instagram post from Fox News.

The lead author of the Cochrane review, Tom Jefferson, seemed to endorse this interpretation when he said in an interview, later quoted by conservative columnist Bret Stephens in a widely viewed opinion piece for the New York Times, “There is just no evidence that they” — referring to masks — “make any difference.”

But experts — and the Cochrane Library — say this is an inaccurate representation of what the review found.”

You move faster than me

 

[Bearded Clam]

When talking about a cloth mask there is no difference between 2 & 3 - so either 2 or 3 and its the same risk - based on the comprehensive study undertaken by Cochrane

Approximately Zero

Masks make no difference in reducing the spread of Covid, according to an extensive new review.

www.city-journal.org

But if he breathed on someone then shot him, they would have listed it as a Covid death

We good now?

But which would you pick?.. I asked you to pick just one of the options. The one you’d obviously prefer the most

1, 2 or 3?

go on.. answer it honestly.

 

[Crow till I die]

But which would you pick?.. I asked you to pick just one of the options. The one you’d obviously prefer the most

1, 2 or 3?

go on.. answer it honestly.

I already told you, either 2 or 3 - there is no difference when it comes to cloth masks

 

[OneGreatClub]

Coming back into this page every few weeks is like going back in time. This page is stuck in 2020 2021. Jesus. Surely there are bigger fish to fry.

With the same old culprits , imagine living with someone like that, they just can’t move on.

 

[Vader]

no - that is wrong and that commentary from t EPA makes it chrystal clear Covid can be transmitted via droplets AND particles. You can retract your comments above to save face - I won't tell

Yes... but a particle is not an individual coronavirus molecule. It's a particle - like a spec of dust. You clearly don't understand English.

 

[Vader]

That is literally NOT what the EPA is stating. And keep up, we are talking about Cap and his cloth mask comment - not N95 masks

The size of SARS-CoV-2 ranges from 0.07 μm to 0.09 μm [23,24].

No argument that the SARS-CoV-2 molecule would be small enough to pass through an N95 mask, if the molecule was capable of existing alone in the atmosphere.

... but it isn't.

What matters is the size of the particle/droplet in which it is carried - and these ARE big enough that the N95 masks can filter them out.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I already told you, either 2 or 3 - there is no difference when it comes to cloth masks

No.. you arent playing by the rules.

You can only pick just one of the 3 options..

thats what the man standing in front of you with a gun pointed in your face is asking..

you try pick more than one of the options or dont pick any and he just picks option 1 for you by default.

so go on...

you can only pick one option out of the three.. which is it gonna be..

 

[Crow till I die]

Yes... but a particle is not an individual coronavirus molecule. It's a particle - like a spec of dust. You clearly don't understand English.

LOL - fish in a barrel

What is the size of the coronavirus particle?


The SARS-CoV-2 virus is only about 100 nanometers in diameter. The holes in your standard cloth or surgical mask are much larger than the size of a coronavirus.

What is the size of the particles in aerosol spray?


The aerosol droplet size lies in the range of 0.5 µm to 100 µm6 . The aerosol particle size of 80 - 90 % of these particles have a diameter of about 1 µm and evaporate in milliseconds, droplets of 10 µm evaporate in less than one second.

 

[Crow till I die]

No argument that the SARS-CoV-2 molecule would be small enough to pass through an N95 mask, if the molecule was capable of existing alone in the atmosphere.

... but it isn't.

What matters is the size of the particle/droplet in which it is carried - and these ARE big enough that the N95 masks can filter them out.

but that is exactly NOT what the EPA state - they say covid particles are airborne. We are going around in circles - just read tha article and then it will be clear to you

Edit - how many times do I need to state we are discussing cloth masks in this discussion - not N95

 

[Crow till I die]

No.. you arent playing by the rules.

You can only pick just one of the 3 options..

thats what the man standing in front of you with a gun pointed in your face is asking..

you try pick more than one of the options or dont pick any and he just picks option 1 for you by default.

so go on...

you can only pick one option out of the three.. which is it gonna be..

are you deliberately being ridiculous? - I'll let you choose either option 2 or 3 for me as a cloth mask is making zero difference to the chance of catching covid

 

[Vader]

LOL - fish in a barrel

What is the size of the coronavirus particle?


The SARS-CoV-2 virus is only about 100 nanometers in diameter. The holes in your standard cloth or surgical mask are much larger than the size of a coronavirus.

What is the size of the particles in aerosol spray?


The aerosol droplet size lies in the range of 0.5 µm to 100 µm6 . The aerosol particle size of 80 - 90 % of these particles have a diameter of about 1 µm and evaporate in milliseconds, droplets of 10 µm evaporate in less than one second.

Which part of this do you not understand?

No argument that the SARS-CoV-2 molecule would be small enough to pass through an N95 mask, if the molecule was capable of existing alone in the atmosphere.

... but it isn't.

What matters is the size of the particle/droplet in which it is carried - and these ARE big enough that the N95 masks can filter them out.

 

[Crow till I die]

Which part of this do you not understand?

CLOTH MASKS..not N95 for the umpteenth time

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Coming back into this page every few weeks is like going back in time. This page is stuck in 2020 2021. Jesus. Surely there are bigger fish to fry.

Yeah, covid is sadly living inside some people's heads.... whilst the vast majority have moved on with their lives, given its no longer a significant risk to most of the population. It's just the vulnerable who need to take care, like they do with any virus.

 

[OneGreatClub]

A couple that jump off the plate

You peddled the Russia hoax, that Trump is a 'fascist', that people are racist for wanting a modicum of border control...etc etc etc

Or, maybe its just an ability to be absolutely thick as a plank to keep falling for this sort of stuff...

Firstly, Russia is not a hoax.

Secondly, IF GOP want border control why won’t they agree to fund it, why won’t Abbot allow Federal Officers on his soil?
Everyone can see there’s a massive border problem. MAGA are obviously blind to the fact that the GOP want that border to be a massive problem because it suits their campaigning, their outrage politics, their fear tactics. If they really wanted to control the border right now they would work with the dems right now.

Thirdly, is Trump a fascist?

Well…let me see…
Demagogue…..tick
Wants to have supreme power…… tick
Promotes the supremacy of one national group over the others…….tick.

You surely have listened to his ranting at his rallies and his online posting?

Oh, I forgot…a contempt for democracy…tick.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I believe Albo should take this to a referendum so the government could waste more tax-payer funds again and embarrass himself again.

Australia Day: New poll finds 63 per cent of Australians support keeping Australia Day on January 26​

A new poll has found Australians are still largely in support of keeping Australia Day on January 26, but public sentiment is slipping.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/australia-day-new-poll-finds-62-per-cent-of-australians-support-keeping-australia-day-on-january-26/news-story/181740aebb57ba20330a93188ce71cc8

Poll finds Aussies want to keep Australia Day on January 26

Less than one in five Australians want to change the date of Australia Day while nine in ten Aussies say they're 'proud to be Australian'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Firstly, Russia is not a hoax.

Secondly, IF GOP want border control why won’t they agree to fund it, why won’t Abbot allow Federal Officers on his soil?
Everyone can see there’s a massive border problem. MAGA are obviously blind to the fact that the GOP want that border to be a massive problem because it suits their campaigning, their outrage politics, their fear tactics. If they really wanted to control the border right now they would work with the dems right now.

Thirdly, is Trump a fascist?

Well…let me see…
Demagogue…..tick
Wants to have supreme power…… tick
Promotes the supremacy of one national group over the others…….tick.

You surely have listened to his ranting at his rallies and his online posting?

Oh, I forgot…a contempt for democracy…tick.

Doesn't anyone want talk to you on the TDs thread. What has this to do with Australian politics ffs.

 

[Bearded Clam]

You move faster than me

Haha!

I’ve seen that one before..

I have a few hundred mates on facebook.. the law of averages has seen to it that about 3 or 4 of them have fallen into the “cooker conspiracy trap” so I get this cooker shit come up on my feed regularly when they post it.

the ”masks do nothing, this entomologist said so on Fox!!!“ has already been posted by one of them previously..

I also have several female friends on facebook who are nurses. Nurses who were working in hospitals on the front line and actually had to deal with the covid crisis as they were right there in the thick of it.
I just wish the mates, the ones I have spoken of above, would listen to these chicks, their experiences and what they have to say more than they do the nutters on the cooker sites..