Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

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You agree with this hospital?
Did you read the article.

I mean really did you read the article, I mean seriously, the actual occurrence of this would be minuscule to start with

But it doesn't talk about that, just gets a quote from some RWNJ Senator from Tasmaina and adds in trigger words to get you really angry.

It literally tells you it's no big deal

They do this via their preferences for clothing, toys and interests, but the hospital notes 'it's normal for children to experiment with gender roles' and many 'will not desire any form of transition'.
Gender affirming care is the act of acknowledging and treating a patient within their perceived gender without question.
So in short, it's a nothing issue , likely to impact very few people , made to sound like a big issue.

Like all culture war garbage is meant to.

So yes, I'm more than happy to support the experts in their field on this matter.
 


Peter Duttons culture wars a distraction to real issues

On the hard right Dutton dogwhistles to about 15-20% of Australians.. the conservative nationalists..

and on the hard left the greens dogwhistle to about 10-15% of Australians.. the green loonies.

The bulk of us sit inbetween..

So the results of that poll arent, as Kos states, a surprise.

We dont want or care to hear about this culture war nonsense and we also dont want to hear the “sky is falling in” crap from the greens either as, whilst we realise climate change is real, we believe a measured, gradual and orderly move away from fossil fuels over a few decades towards renewables is the only real option.
 
It literally tells you it's no big deal

A few years ago you blokes were telling us this wasn’t happening, now you‘ve all switched to it’s ”no big deal.”

It is a big deal. A three year old does not have a ”perceived gender,” and certainly not one that should be pursued with any sort of medical intervention.

You’ve got serious problems if you think any part of that is ”no big deal.”
 
A few years ago you blokes were telling us this wasn’t happening, now you‘ve all switched to it’s ”no big deal.”
When have I said it ain't happening, you are just making it up.

I've always maintained it isn't a big deal, it impacts a small amount of people and best left to the experts.


It is a big deal. A three year old does not have a ”perceived gender,” and certainly not one that should be pursued with any sort of medical intervention.
The article literally told you that isn't happening.

You’ve got serious problems if you think any part of that is ”no big deal.”

I'm fine. I'm not the one distracted by another culture war. But I will be fair on you, at least you've moved on from the other topic.
 
We dont want or care to hear about this culture war nonsense and we also dont want to hear the “sky is falling in” crap from the greens either as, whilst we realise climate change is real, we believe a measured, gradual and orderly move away from fossil fuels over a few decades towards renewables is the only real option.
Absolutely, it's just a shame we took a decade longer to start than we should have
 
The article literally told you that isn't happening.

The article literally tells you that IS happening.



Melbourne's Royal Children's Hospital is offering 'gender affirming care' for children as young as three..

Gender affirming care is the act of acknowledging and treating a patient within their perceived gender without question.



I’m not talking about surgery or puberty blockers on toddlers (although if I had to guess where it was going), I’m talking about this insidious process where they “affirm” a toddler or a child’s “perceived gender.”



Treatments for young children who are yet to reach puberty 'focus on gender affirmation' and 'talking to the child and their family', as well as ensuring adequate support is in place both at school and at home.
 
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You agree with this hospital?
What do you disagree with?..

This is bloody well fantastic. What would you rather?.. these children and their families to instead be hidden away from society and given no help at all just cause you find it challenging to accept that not everyone thinks or feels like you?

Oh wait, what am I saying.. thats right, you think the health industry is one big scam that cant be trusted.

As far as I am concerned..
If psychiatrists, specialist gender identity clinicians (so doctors with a hell of lot of experience in this field) and the children involved and their families are happy then…

ITS NONE OF MINE, OR YOUR, FXXKING BUSINESS.

Why should this even 1) concern you or I as it has absolutely no effect on our lives at all and 2) what qualifications and experience do you have in dealing with these situations that makes you think your ignorant opinion should matter.

This culture war nonsense is being pushed by rank political opportunists who couldnt give two fxxks about these children and their families and the heartache they have to endure.
Its simply their way of dogwhistling to their knuckle dragging followers.
 
The article literally tells you that IS happening.



Melbourne's Royal Children's Hospital is offering 'gender affirming care' for children as young as three..

Gender affirming care is the act of acknowledging and treating a patient within their perceived gender without question.
That isn't medical intervention

In young people, this primarily revolves around assuring both school and home are safe, nurturing spaces and that both parents and children are informed about how best to approach the situation.

That's calling them her instead of him when giving them paracetamol 🤣

You see this part
Psychiatrists and specialist gender identity clinicians will work alongside children aged three to 17 as long as they have a referral from a GP.

So no, it's not some simple thing that everyone's doing

I know of a kid who got to psychiatrist stage, still the same gender now, which for anyone who isn't blinded by a culture war is unsurprising
 
A few years ago you blokes were telling us this wasn’t happening, now you‘ve all switched to it’s ”no big deal.”

It is a big deal. A three year old does not have a ”perceived gender,” and certainly not one that should be pursued with any sort of medical intervention.

You’ve got serious problems if you think any part of that is ”no big deal.”
More lies.. no one has ever said “this isnt happening”.. its always been that it rarely ever happens. And it is incredibly rare.
 

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That isn't medical intervention

This part is medical (psychological) intervention/treatment. It doesn’t have to be physical to be treatment.

Treatments for young children who are yet to reach puberty 'focus on gender affirmation' and 'talking to the child and their family', as well as ensuring adequate support is in place both at school and at home.
 
What do you disagree with?..

This is bloody well fantastic. What would you rather?.. these children and their families to instead be hidden away from society and given no help at all just cause you find it challenging to accept that not everyone thinks or feels like you?

Does a three-year old have a legitimate “perceived gender identity?”

Don’t write paragraphs of potty-mouthed waffle, just answer the damn question.
 
This part is medical (psychological) intervention/treatment. It doesn’t have to be physical to be treatment.

Treatments for young children who are yet to reach puberty 'focus on gender affirmation' and 'talking to the child and their family', as well as ensuring adequate support is in place both at school and at home.
Have a think about what you are saying and what your position is

A psychologist would be the best place for them in any case, wouldn't it? Checking everything is okay at home and school would also be the right thing to do?

But you are drawing a very very long bow here.
 
Does a three-year old have a legitimate “perceived gender identity?”

Don’t write paragraphs of potty-mouthed waffle, just answer the damn question.
You tell me.. you seem to think your an expert on the matter..

Like I said..
I have no experience and qualifications in the field..
and further to that I have never met or known a child or a family that is/or has dealt with this.

Have you?

How about, instead of asking me, you seek out someone with actual experience in the field and ask them.

Educate yourself on the matter and stop simply getting triggered by the dogwhislting from your political masters.

I personally couldnt care less as its, again, none of my business.

Any of these decisions should be left up to the psychiatrists and specialist gender identity clinicians, the children and their families. Its really no one elses business.
 
I think it’s obvious Labor want to scrap the tax cuts, but they also want to stay in power, and the second one takes precedence.

Yes but they had already legislated them with the support of the ALP and remember these were with Stage 1 and 2 so it was all or nothing.

It would be political suicide to back track on something you had said at the election. Sometimes you just have to accept and move on. In addition, you can’t do anything from the Opposition benches.
 
Pffft..

Coming from the bloke who wouldve definately believed Howard and Costello were geniuses..

The two muppets that sold off over 100 billion dollars worth of productive public assets. These included airports, the National Rail Corporation, Dasfleet, Telstra, the remaining share of the Commonwealth Bank and many other valuable enterprises.

They had what was discribed as “rivers of gold” flowing into the federal coffers from the greatest mining boom in history though nearly the whole time they were in government.

Then Costello, the supposed “greatest treasurer ever” sold off the countries gold stocks at rock bottom prices which cost the country a few years later when gold prices rose significantly.

The two of them spent next to nothing on big infrastructure items. Go on, if you think this is BS dont just scoff… name the supposed howard built infrastucture items.

in 1996 they had been handed an economy from Hawke and Keating that had risen to be ranked 6th best in the world..

When they left in 2007 they left an economy that slumped back to 10th in woild rankings… a measly $20billion dollar surplus and a MASSIVE structural deficit thats been locked into the budget ever since because they locked in middle class welfare rorts in a desperate attempt to win votes..

Howard and Costello.. easily the worst PM and Treasurer combo this country has ever seen.

I’ve got an infrastructure project - the Darwin to Alice Springs railway. What a beauty that was!
 
Exactly as expected from a classic rabid ALP supporter, wouldn't have expected any other response from you.

Are you talking about the ALP who received 35.28% of the National vote?

Who cares? They get the support of the Greens who say get 12-13% of the vote which pushes them close to 50%.

You need to explain why so many safe Liberal seats in Metropolitan Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are now Teal. These are seats that the majority you won’t get back in 2025.
 
“Belt and road.. belt and road” the LNP voting luvvies squeal..

Ignoring the fact that the federal liberals signed us onto it..

Actually.. Wasnt it around the same time they leased Darwin harbour to the Chinese.

The LNP luvvies love to point to labor and china but completely ignore the chinese suckholing from thier own side..

A short history of the LNP China love fest:

The relationship between LNP and China was at its most cosiest probably around 2017/18. A decade after they should have known better:

Pro-Tibet protests continue in Australia

Following the great sycophant Andrew Robb retiring his apprentice Steven Ciobo appeared and proved he was the true master of the kow tow.

The LNP Federal Government then signed up to Xi’s Belt and Road agreement in secret.

Foreign Affairs ministry opts for secrecy over China infrastructure agreement

As you all must remember?, Steve Ciobo forgot it was secret agreement and went on Sky News telling them all about it. This interview with Keran Gilbert was probably the greatest China and Xi love fest ever aired on Australian media. With a kow towing Trade Minister and a Chinese sycophant media asking the questions.

https://www.trademinister.gov.au/minister/steven-ciobo/transcript/sky-news-am-agenda-interview-1

I particularly like this answer by Ciobo, i doubt Xi’s propaganda unit could have scripted it better:

“STEVEN CIOBO: Well, there’s certainly scope for Australian businesses to be involved in the Belt Road Initiative. The Belt Road Initiative is part of President Xi’s vision for China throughout the region. President Xi, when he spoke, I think it was in Davos, but also when he made comments in relation to Belt and Road at the Belt and Road Forum last year in China. I made the point that, if you look back over time and you look at the history of China’s engagement, it’s been through these pathways for trade that they’ve been able to drive prosperity and to drive peace. And that lay at the core of this Belt Road Initiative. So strictly from a commercial point of view, of course there’s opportunity for Australian businesses to be involved here. We have really strong trade-”

Though this answer was particularly good too. As Ciobo with his Sky News mate attack both Labor and the unions for not being pro-China and Xi:

“STEVEN CIOBO: Well, you know, I find it a little ironic, frankly, that the Labor Party would lecture people about megaphone diplomacy when they’re actually doing a major speech, themselves. But you know, you can sense the irony there. But look, ultimately if you look at the relationship that we have with China, on a trade investment front this is a very broad, very deep relationship. We’ve seen really strong growth, strong exports. And let’s never forget Kieran, the Labor Party, frankly, think that everyone has a five-second memory. When we did the free trade agreement with China, Labor called it a ‘dud deal’. When we were doing this deal with China, which is driving exports, driving growth, driving jobs, the Labor Party was condoning the most disgraceful multi-million dollar campaign by Australia’s union movement, who were running around saying this was gonna see a flood of dodgy Chinese workers coming into the country. So, you know frankly, the last people that we’ll be talking advice off in relation to our dealings with China is the Australian Labor Party.

But, but, but…. Labor… Dan… “belt and road”, “belt and road”!!!..
Well yes, but such a flimsy case of whataboutism.

OMG your political bias is excruciating.

To even suggest that LNP is, was or will be anywhere near in the same suckholing-to-China cosmos as Labor is laughable.
 
We did get the Heysen Tunnels , I think ?
Dont think that was thanks to Howards federal gov though.. work on the tunnels started in 1997.. takes years of planning, engineering and gaining funding etc etc before work on such a massive undertaking as tunnel works start..

Howards government only came to power a year earlier in 1996..
 

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