Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[George Kramer]

Anyway, today’s a reminder why I don’t post in here. Have a good day

 

[Bearded Clam]

It's not a blatant disregard if you think Children getting the care they need is a good thing.

That's the crux of their argument, that was the point of my joke.

1 person thinks it's the end of the world, the other is happy for kids to get the care they need.

Pete isn't the one that cares about kids.

Trust me, let it be.

Astounding isnt it..

The people who are willing to leave these children and these families alone to get the best psycological and medical care that this country can provide them.. because they believe its no one else business but the children and their families.. are aparently the freaks and sickos who dont care about them..

And the people who want to instead use them as political footballs in their pathetic culture war and get all triggered thinking about these kids and their genitals.. are aparently the good guys that care about them!

Just what fxxkn alternative universe are we living in here..

 

[Bearded Clam]

Has nothing to do with the way your answer was framed.

You need to go right back to the start of the convo a few days back.. Dont just jump in halfway.

 

[Slippery Pete]

198

2019 was the last credible reporting year available, for obvious reasons. We know that a whole host of medical data from 2020 and 2021 is compromised because of lockdowns.

Frankly, I’d mount the same argument if it was 600, 198 or ONE.

Going from FIVE to the hundreds between 2014 and 2019 indicates to anyone with a brain that there is an agenda being driven onto children.

Children taking puberty blockers is criminal quackery.

It is chemical castration and the same drugs have been used previously on sex offenders for that express purpose.

If you advocate for the chemical castration of minors there is no topic you should ever be taken seriously on again.

So, let’s cut to the chase. Do you or not?

 

[Cap]

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A Coral Sea storm could become powerful enough to be declared a cyclone by Tuesday, the Bureau of Meteorology has warned, bringing with it heavy rains and a potential storm surge as it crosses the Queensland coast.

www.abc.net.au

Batten down the hatches QLD

 

[Slippery Pete]

the best psycological and medical care that this country can provide them..

Hilarious

 

[Cap]

Astounding isnt it..

The people who are willing to leave these children and these families alone to get the best psycological and medical care that this country can provide them.. because they believe its no one else business but the children and their families.. are aparently the freaks and sickos who dont care about them..

And the people who want to instead use them as political footballs in their pathetic culture war and get all triggered thinking about these kids and their genitals.. are aparently the good guys that care about them!

Just what fxxkn alternative universe are we living in here..

It's sad really.

They'd rather these people either suffer in silence or commit suicide like many end up doing.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Its rant rant rant

"But the sun DOESN'T come up IN THE BLOODY MORNING you right wing extremist moron MAGA idiot"

Is about the quality of the response you get

Imagine that you can’t even bring yourself to say that ”gender affirming care“ on a toddler is batshit insane.

That’s how out for the count these people are. That’s how devoted to their religion they are.

Bearded Commie — the most aggressively anti-religion person in this thread — is ironically the most hardcore ideological headcase here.

 

[Bearded Clam]

2019 was the last credible reporting year available, for obvious reasons. We know that a whole host of medical data from 2020 and 2021 is compromised because of lockdowns.

Frankly, I’d mount the same argument if it was 600, 198 or ONE.

Going from FIVE to the hundreds between 2014 and 2019 indicates to anyone with a brain that there is an agenda being driven onto children.

Children taking puberty blockers is criminal quackery.

It is chemical castration and the same drugs have been used previously on sex offenders for that express purpose.

If you advocate for the chemical castration of minors there is no topic you should ever be taken seriously on again.

So, let’s cut to the chase. Do you or not?

I advocate for these children and their families to be given the best possible care from Psycologists and doctors who have experience in this field.. as long as it is all within the current laws of this land.

Experience that I do not have.

I also believe this is a very private, and extremely sensitive matter, for these children and their families that is none of my business and my opinions/thoughts shouldnt be given any consideration whatsoever.

I am also of the opinion that this is a very rare occurrance in our society.
129, or hell even 624 (if we are to believe the figures that you yourself have provided) out of 6,000,000 children backs this up.

What I wont cop is..

Using these kids and their families as political footballs in a pathetic culture war.. as it couldnt be any further from “advocating for them”..

 

[Vader]

Haha can''t speak against a brother hey....

More like don't know, don't care, and can't be bothered investigating the various "alignments" or "affiliations" of the various think-tanks... and even moreso, I couldn't give a rats arse what the ****wits on Sky News have to say about anything.

I know that the IPA is full of RWNJs, who exist on the extreme right of the LNP, and anything/everything they say should be either ignored completely, or the opposite action taken. But beyond that, I have NFI and zero interest in finding out.

 

[footy4ever]

It's not a blatant disregard if you think Children getting the care they need is a good thing.

That's the crux of their argument, that was the point of my joke.

1 person thinks it's the end of the world, the other is happy for kids to get the care they need.

Pete isn't the one that cares about kids.

Trust me, let it be.

"The care they need"?

A three year old needs 'care', either psychological 'help' or medical intervention so that child can sort out its gender? That's 'care'? At 3 ****ing years old? ...which is what it boils down to.

Jesus Christ nothing's too far for the medical and non-medical 'intellects' who thought implementing this was a good idea. They're the ones needing psychological help and maybe some medical intervention like a lobotomy or two to stop them ever being able to think of anything again.

From 3 years old! shakes head

 

[kirky]

Cheap considering the money absolutely wasted by Airbus Albo on The Voice.

Are you seriously suggesting the McKell Institute isn't in bed with the ALP?

If you are it's you that has a problem with language skills and using weasel words doesn't help that case.

The name they've taken (McKell) from which it's origins come should tell anyone with a modicum of intelligence that this is a Labor based organisation (think tank).

Almost all of their people are either former Labor Pollies/advisors or Union office holders.

The duck test applies : Ïf it Looks like duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Do you want to know a waste of money? I’ve got plenty from your Coalition years. Just ask.

 

[Cap]

"The care they need"?

A three year old needs 'care', either psychological 'help' or medical intervention so that child can sort out its gender? That's 'care'? At 3 ******* years old? ...which is what it boils down to.

Jesus Christ nothing's too far for the medical and non-medical 'intellects' who thought implementing this was a good idea. They're the ones needing psychological help and maybe some medical intervention like a lobotomy or two to stop them ever being able to think of anything again.

From 3 years old! shakes head

I don't think what you think happens, is happening

Being aware of your gender is a normal part of development, like we have for all sorts of developmental issues children have, we have services for that.

No amount of hand wringing is going to stop that.

But this is a tiresome topic being pushed by culture warriors with little care for anyone anyway.

 

[footy4ever]

I don't think what you think happens, is happening

Being aware of your gender is a normal part of development, like we have for all sorts of developmental issues children have, we have services for that.

No amount of hand wringing is going to stop that.

But this tiresome topic being pushed by culture warriors with little care for anyone anyway.

You don't know what I think is happening, but that the door is open for meddling, disguised as caring for, in the determining of a 3 year old child's gender, should be considered reprehensible by any rational logical person regardless of political bias.

 

[Crow till I die]

You don't know what I think is happening, but that the door is open for meddling, disguised as caring for, in the determining of a 3 year old child's gender, should be considered reprehensible by any rational logical person regardless of political bias.

I'll bet if we ran a straw poll on the topic, its going to be extremely lopsided against allowing 3 year olds, 4 year olds etc to be checked into gender affirming clinics. Most sane people see it for what it is...insanity and coersion of children.

 

[Cap]

You don't know what I think is happening, but that the door is open for meddling, disguised as caring for, in the determining of a 3 year old child's gender, should be considered reprehensible by any rational logical person regardless of political bias.

Again, no one is determining it.

I'm sure it is open to meddling, but I'd suggest there are many more children being 'meddled with' in this country that require that would like half the attention this topic gets

 

[Cap]

I'll bet if we ran a straw poll on the topic, its going to be extremely lopsided against allowing 3 year olds, 4 year olds etc to be checked into gender affirming clinics. Most sane people see it for what it is...insanity and coersion of children.

That's just another shit take though isn't it.

Your mental health journey is different to other people's. They aren't mental institutions like you would be very familiar with

 

[Bearded Clam]

"The care they need"?

A three year old needs 'care', either psychological 'help' or medical intervention so that child can sort out its gender? That's 'care'? At 3 ******* years old? ...which is what it boils down to.

Jesus Christ nothing's too far for the medical and non-medical 'intellects' who thought implementing this was a good idea. They're the ones needing psychological help and maybe some medical intervention like a lobotomy or two to stop them ever being able to think of anything again.

From 3 years old! shakes head

I’m willing to bet you, like the rest of us in here, havent got a clue what care these children require.

I am also willing to bet that this is an incredibly complex issue that really shouldnt be scoffed at.

I think its pretty fxxkn disrespectful and disgusting that we are even discussing it in here.

And the only reason we are is because a few in hear are answering the dogwhistle calls of their political hero’s..
and jumping on the “lets kick some children and their families, while they are down and are in need of assistance, around for a political culture war” bandwagon..
at the same time pretending that we actually give a single shit about them!..

How about we stop getting triggered by the hyped up nonsense of the hard right political culture war warriors and leave this delicate subject to the experts in the field to deal with… people who actually have experience in dealing with it..

I mean.. Do you actually think for one fxxkn second that if you asked the parents of any of these children what they thought of their children’s current situation being exploited for some political culture war that they’d say..

“Oh yeah, we’re actually finding that imput really helpful thanks”..

Have you even met one of these children, and their family, and sat down and listened to their story?

 

[Crow till I die]

But no one is doing that.

Your mental health journey is different to other people's.

Back in the real world, kids are being taken to gender affirming clinics.

And when you say your in the comment, it goes without saying the 'your' refers to the 99%

 

[footy4ever]

Again, no one is determining it.

I'm sure it is open to meddling, but I'd suggest there are many more children being 'meddled with' in this country that require that would like half the attention this topic gets

My working life involved child development. Children's paths change constantly. Accepting that any child that young should be allowed to be professionally encouraged/guided/coerced/forbidden to take any gender direction at such an early age is sheer lunacy and should be called out for the interfering and meddling it is.

 

[arrowman]

"The care they need"?

A three year old needs 'care', either psychological 'help' or medical intervention so that child can sort out its gender? That's 'care'? At 3 ******* years old? ...which is what it boils down to.

Jesus Christ nothing's too far for the medical and non-medical 'intellects' who thought implementing this was a good idea. They're the ones needing psychological help and maybe some medical intervention like a lobotomy or two to stop them ever being able to think of anything again.

From 3 years old! shakes head

If you can believe that 3 year olds belong in a gender clinic, you'll believe anything.

But this is a tiresome topic being pushed by culture warriors with little care for anyone anyway.

...demonstrating your ignorance of the nature of the debate, and of the varied political views of people who are calling out "gender-affirming care" for children.

 

[arrowman]

How about we stop getting triggered by the hyped up nonsense of the hard right political culture war warriors an

Yeah, because Jamie Reed (e.g.) is a "hard right political culture warrior".

I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

There are more than 100 pediatric gender clinics across the U.S. I worked at one. What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling.

www.thefp.com

Just admit it - you know little to nothing of the grass roots of this issue.

 

[Cap]

If you can believe that 3 year olds belong in a gender clinic, you'll believe anything.

...demonstrating your ignorance of the nature of the debate, and of the varied political views of people who are calling out "gender-affirming care" for children.

Yawn.

Which international news item are you going to share with us today

 

[Cap]

Yeah, because Jamie Reed (e.g.) is a "hard right political culture warrior".

I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

There are more than 100 pediatric gender clinics across the U.S. I worked at one. What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling.

www.thefp.com

Just admit it - you know little to nothing of the grass roots of this issue.

Yep dredging up international news with no care to even check.

A Whistleblower’s Claims About a St. Louis Transgender Center Are Under Fire

Jamie Reed’s shocking account of a clinic mistreating children went viral. Parents and patients are now refuting her key claims.

nymag.com

Such a bore.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Yeah, because Jamie Reed (e.g.) is a "hard right political culture warrior".

I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

There are more than 100 pediatric gender clinics across the U.S. I worked at one. What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling.

www.thefp.com

Just admit it - you know little to nothing of the grass roots of this issue.

You righties love this..

Desperately scouring the world to find one dissenting voice from someone on the inside that supports you’re side of the arguement and going
“See, see, see…. This person on the other side of the world that worked with these kids in one clinic said this!”
As if that one persons experience and comments instantly justifies your right to write all other efforts to help these children out off..

Its doesnt get anymore disingenuous than that..

Its no different to how the right completely ignore 99% of climate scientists and take the word of a few compromised ones to say “see, climate change isnt real.. this scientist I found said so”..

How about you arrowman..
how many of these Aussie kids have you met?..
how many of them and their families have you spoken to?..

Any at all?

They are clearly turning up to see these doctors and psycologists looking for help as they are concerned about their child..

Do you think they care about your opinion and your attempts to get to the “grass roots” of the issue?…

Or will you simply ignore these questions as the others in here have.. they avoid answering them like the plague..