Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[OneGreatClub]

How can any sane person want us to become a mini America. Just look at what their ‘free speech ‘ has done in that country.
Trump, Carlson, Info Wars..so much bs is making it a hell hole.

 

[MrKK]

How can any sane person want us to become a mini America. Just look at what their ‘free speech ‘ has done in that country.
Trump, Carlson, Info Wars..so much bs is making it a hell hole.

The US has 99 problems but the First Amendment ain't 1. Although colour me unsurprised that you support the government being the judge of what is 'misinformation' while exempting themselves from any restrictions on what they can say. Would you want that power in the hands of someone like Trump?

 

[Slippery Pete]

The US has 99 problems but the First Amendment ain't 1. Although colour me unsurprised that you support the government being the judge of what is 'misinformation' while exempting themselves from any restrictions on what they can say. Would you want that power in the hands of someone like Trump?

These people are so far gone they’ve allowed their overlords to convince them that free speech is bad.

How comical and ironic are they?

They’re showing us precisely what the First Amendment was designed for.

 

[Mutineer]

Whoda thunk that the ALPBC would be such a hive of racism and sexual harrassment, what will all our ABC luvvies on here think? My tip the usual nothing to see here, it's only a problem if it's SkyNews or the Murdoch media outlets.

Why AFL grand final should be played at night as ABC braces for ‘devastating’ report

In our column that takes you inside the media world we reveal the ABC report set to send shockwaves through the organisation and question what Katy Perry would’ve done if the AFL grand final was played at night.

7news.com.au

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Rudd Air. Ill bet both parties would just like to see him fly away.

 

[Mutineer]

Rudd Air. Ill bet both parties would just like to see him fly away.


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Nah Airbus Albo loves the bloke, it was always happening Albo would look after him as soon as he got in the big chair.

What cost of living pressures do Albo and Krudd have to cope with like everyday Aussies... Krudd's missus is a multi and that bullshit they both came from single parent or struggling childhood families etc is a lifetime ago.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Dutton hits out at ABC after Hezbollah question

Peter Dutton says the ABC is in “greater trouble” than he thought after a reporter asked him about Australia listing Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation.

 

[Mutineer]

Dutton hits out at ABC after Hezbollah question

Peter Dutton says the ABC is in “greater trouble” than he thought after a reporter asked him about Australia listing Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation.

Been a bad week/ month for the ALPBC, first they disgustingly "doctor" videos to make one of our SAS soldiers look like a war criminal, then one of their reporters asks an absolutely ridiculous question re Hezbollah and then the "racism" investigation, what a disaster.

The ABC launched a racism review. The responses were damning

Outgoing ABC boss David Anderson has told current and former staff he is “truly sorry” after a report into systemic racism issued 15 recommendations.

www.smh.com.au

The ABC launched a racism review. The responses were damning​

 

[adelaidecrows]

These people are so far gone they’ve allowed their overlords to convince them that free speech is bad.

How comical and ironic are they?

They’re showing us precisely what the First Amendment was designed for.

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The constant problem with this debate is people confusing free speech with say anything you want speech. And it comes exclusively down to people no longer believing facts anymore. Free speech only ever became an issue after Donald Trump was removed from Twitter because he was lying and claimed alternative facts. So of course the right side of politics began to only believe his version was the truth and hell, here we are. A mega billionaire buys twitter to curry favors from Trump under the guise of protecting free speech.

 

[El Doederino]

Dutton hits out at ABC after Hezbollah question

Peter Dutton says the ABC is in “greater trouble” than he thought after a reporter asked him about Australia listing Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation.

I loved that from Dutton

 

[MrKK]

The constant problem with this debate is people confusing free speech with say anything you want speech. And it comes exclusively down to people no longer believing facts anymore. Free speech only ever became an issue after Donald Trump was removed from Twitter because he was lying and claimed alternative facts. So of course the right side of politics began to only believe his version was the truth and hell, here we are. A mega billionaire buys twitter to curry favors from Trump under the guise of protecting free speech.

Hate to break it to you but Trump was not the first politician to lie. The First Amendment was adopted over 200 years ago - even back then they understood the desire of those in power to silence their enemies.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Hate to break it to you but Trump was not the first politician to lie. The First Amendment was adopted over 200 years ago - even back then they understood the desire of those in power to silence their enemies.

Its not the politicians lying, lying over policy and misrepresenting statistics and facts, thats been in existence the day politicians were invented.

Im talking about the outright dismissal of proven facts, sprouting outrages lies and passing them off as an alternative fact and claiming the actual facts are lies. Thats far different than the simple examples politicians are famous for. This is where people are confused.

I know this is international politics but this is where the issue stems from.
Because Trump says the stupidest lies ever, passes them off as fact, his supporters believe it, regardless of any evidence to the contrary. Thats why this first amendment issue is being raised. For example, his outright lies regarding cures of covid actually killed people. The pure danger the Trump and Vance placed the Haitian community in (legal residence status as well) over the outright lies with the accusations of pet eating, the refusal to acknowledge all the evidence to the contrary and claiming it was a leftist narrative the facts were being hidden. Yet the very cat at the centre of the allegations was found alive and well in the owners basement. Yet Springfield had bomb threats of schools with Haitian kids in them, an Aryan Biker Group patrolled the streets and turned up at council meetings demanding these residence be evicted. This is all on the back of deliberate and calculated misinformation passed off as fact. This is not free speech, never has been. Had it been 20 years ago, Trump would have been laughed off the stage and told never come back.

Im sorry, but the media, social media need to be held to account for this sort of misinformation. Its not free speech. Free speech is the ability for Trump and his supporters to call Harris mentally disabled and not end up in jail for it. It never has been the right to say anything you want consequence free.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Its not the politicians lying, lying over policy and misrepresenting statistics and facts, thats been in existence the day politicians were invented.

Im talking about the outright dismissal of proven facts, sprouting outrages lies and passing them off as an alternative fact and claiming the actual facts are lies. Thats far different than the simple examples politicians are famous for. This is where people are confused.

I know this is international politics but this is where the issue stems from.
Because Trump says the stupidest lies ever, passes them off as fact, his supporters believe it, regardless of any evidence to the contrary. Thats why this first amendment issue is being raised. For example, his outright lies regarding cures of covid actually killed people. The pure danger the Trump and Vance placed the Haitian community in (legal residence status as well) over the outright lies with the accusations of pet eating, the refusal to acknowledge all the evidence to the contrary and claiming it was a leftist narrative the facts were being hidden. Yet the very cat at the centre of the allegations was found alive and well in the owners basement. Yet Springfield had bomb threats of schools with Haitian kids in them, an Aryan Biker Group patrolled the streets and turned up at council meetings demanding these residence be evicted. This is all on the back of deliberate and calculated misinformation passed off as fact. This is not free speech, never has been. Had it been 20 years ago, Trump would have been laughed off the stage and told never come back.

Im sorry, but the media, social media need to be held to account for this sort of misinformation. Its not free speech. Free speech is the ability for Trump and his supporters to call Harris mentally disabled and not end up in jail for it. It never has been the right to say anything you want consequence free.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Thats not a rebuttal. This is why you arent taken seriously in the international thread. When someone mentions Trump, instead of actually arguing the points, you post this crap lol. Tell me im wrong, by all means, happy to debate. But when you do this you may as well not have posted at all.

 

[Mutineer]

Thats not a rebuttal. This is why you arent taken seriously in the international thread. When someone mentions Trump, instead of actually arguing the points, you post this crap lol. Tell me im wrong, by all means, happy to debate. But when you do this you may as well not have posted at all.

So posting reams of waffle means you should be taken seriously?

Sounds like someone has tickets on themselves to me.

 

[Mutineer]

Cwissy Bowen's green dreams in tatters, when are voters and in particular the ALP going to wake up to this incompetent clown, fair dinkum everything he touches right through his Political has turned to shyte..Millions and millions of taxpayers money up in smoke chasing Bowen's green dream.

Hopes for green hydrogen fading as energy giant Origin walks away from flagship project

A project held up as a flagship for Australia's fledgling green hydrogen industry loses its biggest backer as Origin Energy abandons plans for the fuel.

www.abc.net.au

Energy giant Origin retreats from flagship green hydrogen project as hopes for fuel fade​

In short:​

Energy company Origin has dropped out of the Hunter Valley Hydrogen Hub project, citing uncertainty in the market for the alternative fuel.

It comes as another blow to the federal government's green hydrogen ambitions after billionaire Andrew Forrest's Fortescue also pared back investments in the industry.

What's Next?​

Analysts are unsurprised by the decision, saying high costs remained a hurdle for the industry.

Origin pulls the plug on hydrogen hub, says too expensive

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s hopes of kick-starting a hydrogen energy revolution have suffered another setback after Origin Energy revealed it had pulled the plug on a project in NSW.

thenightly.com.au

Origin Energy pulls the plug on Hunter Valley Hydrogen Hub, says too expensive​

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s hopes of kick-starting a hydrogen energy revolution to help fuel Australia’s shift to net zero have suffered another setback after Origin Energy revealed it had pulled the plug on a project in NSW.
Origin said developing the Hunter Valley Hydrogen Hub using existing technology and amid uncertainty surrounding the future potential market for the renewable energy would be too expensive.
The announcement comes just 15 months after the Federal Government gave the company $70 million to pursue the hub’s development in partnership with Orica.

The first stage would have included a 55 megawatt electrolyser producing up to 5500 tonnes of green hydrogen a year by using recycled water and grid-connected electricity. Some of the fuel would have been used for the transport industry.
Origin chief executive Frank Calabria said the energy provider had worked hard to shore up the investment case for hydrogen but the capital risks were too high.


Twiggy Forrest's Fortescue baled out only a couple of months ago

 

[StonesThrow]

Hydrogen and nuclear. Two ideas that don't stack up.

 

[n4sir]

I guess David Speirs has the title of his memoir already decided:

"Blown Away"

 

[Doctor B]

I guess David Speirs has the title of his memoir already decided:

"Blown Away"

On the nose beers, by Davis Speirs

 

[n4sir]

On the nose beers, by Davis Speirs

Or possibly:

"Seven lines to nowhere"

 

[Mutineer]

Hydrogen and nuclear. Two ideas that don't stack up.

Nuclear stacks up, if not why are so many countries relying on it as at least their baseload to keep their lights on and businesses operating..

Going to be a massive graveyard of windmills, solar panels and spent batteries and their toxic metals and chemicals in the not too distance future. I'm yet to see any reduction in my power bills as promised by that clown Bown, in fact they continue to go the other way. And I got news for you they will continue to rise with the new infrastructue required to service all these far flung windmills and solar farms. $$$$$$$$$$$$$ Billions and billions and billions.

 

[n4sir]

Nuclear stacks up, if not why are so many countries relying on it as at least their baseload to keep their lights on and businesses operating..

Australia is a very different country in relation to distance meaning massive costs, and population (relatively small and concentrated at certain spots along the coastlines) to spread out those costs. It's a lot different to the USA or Europe. Plus (at present) we're not interested in other little side ventures like enriching nuclear for weapons or the like, which again is a cost factor in its favor.

The only way to make sense of the cost of nuclear in Australia is to stick a nuclear reactor in the middle of Sydney for the eastern seaboard with a whole lot of ICBMs stationed there... on second thought, maybe let's do it!

 

[Doctor B]

Australia is a very different country in relation to distance meaning massive costs, and population (relatively small and concentrated at certain spots along the coastlines) to spread out those costs. It's a lot different to the USA or Europe. Plus (at present) we're not interested in other little side ventures like enriching nuclear for weapons or the like, which again is a cost factor in its favor.

The only way to make sense of the cost of nuclear in Australia is to stick a nuclear reactor in the middle of Sydney for the eastern seaboard with a whole lot of ICBMs stationed there... on second thought, maybe let's do it!

Has Dutton released his costings for nuclear yet?

 

[Mutineer]

Australia is a very different country in relation to distance meaning massive costs, and population (relatively small and concentrated at certain spots along the coastlines) to spread out those costs. It's a lot different to the USA or Europe. Plus (at present) we're not interested in other little side ventures like enriching nuclear for weapons or the like, which again is a cost factor in its favor.

The only way to make sense of the cost of nuclear in Australia is to stick a nuclear reactor in the middle of Sydney for the eastern seaboard with a whole lot of ICBMs stationed there... on second thought, maybe let's do it!

nowhere near the expense of the runout of the infrastructure to bring all these far flung windmills and solar farms onto the grid...and I'd be surprised if you didn't already know that. The infrastructure is mostly there at the sites of the decommissioned coal fired power stations already.

 

[Mutineer]

Has Dutton released his costings for nuclear yet?

Has Cwissy Bowen ever released the costings of the final run out of the new infrastructure required to service these far flung windmill and solar farmsof his? Has he factored that cost into what we will pay for electricity now and into the future?

Has he factored in the cost of what will need to be done to recycle the recyclable elements of the windmills, solar panels and batteries.....that is what is actually recyclable of which a serious amount is not...landfill?