Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Kane McGoodwin]

Kane is unable to understand abstract concepts, or comprehend problems that didn’t happen to him personally. Two classic symptoms of low intellect.

Lol, you should check out the average IQ of an anti-vaxxer v someone who gets vaccinated.

This state has both the country's lowest vaccination rate and IQ score. See how other states measure up | TTU

today.ttu.edu

Are intelligent people more likely to get vaccinated? The association between COVID-19 vaccine adherence and cognitive profiles

Since vaccination adherence is crucial in reducing morbidity and mortality during a pandemic, we characterized the association between demographic, in…

www.sciencedirect.com

Does IQ influence COVID-19 vaccination decision-making?

This study in the Journal of Health Economics finds that cognitive ability significantly influences the rate at which people get COVID-19 vaccinations. Pre-booked appointments were shown to effectively boost vaccination rates, especially among those with lower cognitive ability scores.

www.news-medical.net

Smart people first in line for COVID-19 vaccines, study suggests

A total of 80% of the most intelligent people were vaccinated within 40 days of vaccine availability, compared with 180 days for those with the lowest cognitive ability.

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Ps. Still waiting on your awesome credible news sources. Not like you to go shy Pete. Let's be honest you have nothing on good news sources lol & don't want to be embarrassed showing them.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Ps. Still waiting on your awesome credible news sources. Not like you to go shy Pete. Let's be honest you have nothing on good news sources lol & don't want to be embarrassed showing them.

Why would I want you to be informed?

I’m very happy for you to stay uninformed, and please.. I’m begging you… take many more Covid vaccines.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Why would I want you to be informed?

I’m very happy for you to stay uninformed, and please.. I’m begging you… take many more Covid vaccines.

Lol, I don't believe you!

You don't read credible news resources.

It's pretty obvious to most who read your posting.

Don't worry, I already know i read a more varied & credible news sources than you... but i was happy to try some yours for a laugh.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Lol, I don't believe you!

You don't read credible news resources.

It's pretty obvious to most who read your posting.

Don't worry, I already know i read a more varied & credible news sources than you... but i was happy to try some yours for a laugh.

Well we’re all still waiting for you to respond to my post #7687 about the misinformation bill. Maybe you missed it?

Judging by the number of endorsements on that post it appears you have the minority view.

If you want help with sources in order to provide an informed answer, I might be able to assist.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Well we’re all still waiting for you to respond to my post #7687 about the misinformation bill. Maybe you missed it?

Judging by the number of endorsements on that post it appears you have the minority view.

If you want help with sources in order to provide an informed answer, I might be able to assist.

You claimed to read more credible news sources but when quizzed what they are, you run away like a scaredy cat.

All bluster...

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Free speech is dead in the UK. The citizen journalist will be killed off here and called misinformation.
Pointing out criminal behavior should not be criminal, but...

 

[Slippery Pete]

You claimed to read more credible news sources but when quizzed what they are, you run away like a scaredy cat.

All bluster...

Told you I’m happy to provide a news source when you address the topic at hand.

You seem to have hit a wall in your defence of Albanese’s bill.

 

[adelaidecrows]

The biggest problem we’ve got in this country is that “centrists” like Kane still think the news is real.

That’s a bigger problem than any politician.

of course its not real, how can it possibly be when it doesnt fit your narrative. This is the hilarious fail from the fake news brigade. Its always fake and not once do I ever see any of you when presented with any actual facts go 'oh well my bad'. You just do a stupid brainless laugh emoji and **** off and ignore the tough questions.

 

[Slippery Pete]

of course its not real, how can it possibly be when it doesnt fit your narrative. This is the hilarious fail from the fake news brigade. Its always fake and not once do I ever see any of you when presented with any actual facts go 'oh well my bad'. You just do a stupid brainless laugh emoji and **** off and ignore the tough questions.

Yada yada yada.

The topic is the misinformation bill. Do you support it like Kane does?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Told you I’m happy to provide a news source when you address the topic at hand.

You seem to have hit a wall in your defence of Albanese’s bill.

Lol, you have nothing.

I can guarantee that you are about as likely to to provide a credible news source as getting a vaccination.

I have already commented on the topic, so what's more to add.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Free speech is dead in the UK. The citizen journalist will be killed off here and called misinformation.
Pointing out criminal behavior should not be criminal, but...

You should do some research. She wasnt pointing out criminal behaviour she was actually using racist language herself and her life tiktok platform was being used to increase anger. She was not trying to stop it. She also pleaded guilty and was going for a suspended sentence.

Tamworth care worker who streamed riot aftermath jailed

Cameron Bell was seen wearing her work uniform as a group walked through Tamworth town centre.

www.bbc.com

https://www.staffordshire.police.uk/news/staffordshire/news/2024/november/more-sentenced-and-convicted-following-violent-disorder-in-august/

This is not a free speech issue.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Lol, you have nothing.

I can guarantee that you are about as likely to to provide a credible news source as getting a vaccination.

I have already commented on the topic, so what's more to add.

Should we start with one that you (unsurprisingly) completely ignored the first time?

Would love to hear your take on this.

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Heavy-handed COVID restrictions have destroyed trust in government​

Many of the measures taken during COVID‑19 are unlikely to be accepted by the population again, due to the lack of trust created by the heavy-handed response.

www.afr.com

In a report more scathing of the states than anticipated, the three-person inquiry panel slammed the approaches towards such issues as lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and school and border closures, saying they lacked transparency and compassion, and were often not evidence-based.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Just when you thought Krudd couldn't get any more pathetic and cringeworthy he outdoes himself again, is there no bounds to this joker's stupidity? Now believe it or not he's asked Scott Morrison for help to cultivate a relationship between Rudd and the Trump administration.

How about Upgrade Albo act before this becomes a problem for Australia and find another cushy job for his best buddy Krudd because you don't need to be Einstein to see Rudd's position is untenable.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/united-states/rudd-tried-to-get-scomos-help-with-trump-as-hes-urged-to-quit/news-story/2d1d65eae0adc697ebae30ca5c6c1a11

Trump staffer delivers ominous warning to Kevin Rudd​

One of Donald Trump’s senior advisers has implied that Kevin Rudd’s role as Australia’s Ambassador to the US could be under threat after another staffer issues a stern warning.

One of Donald Trump’s senior advisers has delivered an ominous warning to Kevin Rudd, implying that the Australian Ambassador’s role could be under threat and his time in Washington DC may be running out.
Dan Scavino Jr, a longstanding Trump aide who is one of the President-elect’s most senior campaign advisers, issued a scathing response to Dr Rudd’s previous message congratulating Mr Trump on his election victory.

In his post on X, the Trump aide posted an hourglass GIF alongside Dr Rudd’s statement, suggesting that the former PM’s days in his role as Australia’s ambassador to the US might be numbered.
It came after Sky News uncovered footage in which the former prime minister called the President-elect a “village idiot” and “incoherent”, while another leading figure in Mr Trump’s former administration delivered a bold call.

“Donald Trump doesn’t forget these comments,” former Trump White House press secretary Sean Spicer told Andrew Bolt on Sky News.
Mr Spicer drew a parallel between Dr Rudd’s remarks and Mr Trump’s move to deny Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo roles in his new administration.

“You saw how he kind of thanked Ambassador Haley and Secretary Pompeo for their previous service and said they will not be utilised in this next administration,” Mr Spicer told Sky News.

“It’s just a further sign that Donald Trump may say the polite things to you in public, but he will not forget.”
Now, Dr Rudd has been urged to fall on his sword in the same way that Kim Darroch, the British Ambassador to Washington did in 2019 after hundreds of his private memos were leaked to the media.

Sir Kim had called Mr Trump “dysfunctional” and “inept” but had also warned his bosses in London: “Don’t write him off”.

Mr Trump slammed Sir Kim as a “pompous fool” after the memos were splashed on the front pages of British newspapers.

“The wacky Ambassador that the UK foisted upon the United States is not someone we are thrilled with, a very stupid guy,” Mr Trump said in 2019.

A day later, Sir Kim resigned even though his memos had meant to be only for the eyes of Whitehall officials in London.

CALLS FOR RUDD TO RESIGN​

It comes after Dr Rudd was told to follow the lead of a British Ambassador to Washington who quit three days after leaked cables revealed his criticisms of Mr Trump.

Australia’s Ambassador to the United States has become an increasing distraction for Prime Minister Anthony Albanese as newly surfaced videos emerged of Dr Rudd labelling Mr Trump a “village idiot” who was “in love with dictators”.

Mr Albanese was forced to defend Dr Rudd for the second time in less than a week, saying “yes” when asked if he was the best person for the Ambassador’s role.
But Mr Albanese walked away from a press conference in Tasmania before reporters could ask him for more details.

It comes as Dr Rudd attempted to engage Scott Morrison’s help in forging relationships with the Trump administration.

Sky News Australia’s Sharri Markson said, “In a recognition that Rudd will struggle to build bridges with President Trump on his own, he has been cultivating his relationship with Scott Morrison over many months, even launching his book in the United States in May.

“Multiple sources have told me that Rudd has been asking Morrison’s assistance in dealing with the Trump team.”

“My understanding is that Morrison won’t give up his new business ventures and is unlikely to accept any formal role as a special envoy that would mean representing the Albanese Government,” Markson continued.

“But he will help Rudd informally with ties to the Trump Administration, particularly when it relates to AUKUS and Australia’s national interest.”

Mr Morrison has acted as an “informal ambassador” to Trump, Markson said.

Dr Rudd made world headlines last week, including in the New York Times, when he deleted tweets that called Mr Trump the “worst president in history”.

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There is no fighting this. Rudd if still in his role will be kicked out of the country the very first day. The smart move is just to accept it and move out of the USA

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Should we start with one that you (unsurprisingly) completely ignored the first time?

Would love to hear your take on this.

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Heavy-handed COVID restrictions Uhave destroyed trust in government​

Many of the measures taken during COVID‑19 are unlikely to be accepted by the population again, due to the lack of trust created by the heavy-handed response.

www.afr.com


Australians are “unlikely” to accept large-scale Covid-19 measures and restrictions in an inevitable future pandemic, with “heavy-handed” rules and large-scale vaccine mandates key factors to eroding trust.

Lol, you are still triggered by covid like so many anti-vaxxers.

It's pointless having yet another merry-go-round conversation & clearly it's not good for your mental health.

No one has said all actions that were taken were perfect & lessons should be learnt.

However the fact remains you still believe the vaccine killed more people than it saved so it's absolutely pointless having an intelligent discussion with you as you are completely cooked on this issue.

So yes, I choose not to waste energy, particularly as unlike you I have moved on post covid.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Lol, you are still triggered by covid like so many anti-vaxxers.

Lmao. Asks for credible source, gets crushed by credible source.

Bet you regret asking for that source now

No one has said all actions that were taken were perfect & lessons should be learnt.

You would’ve known everything in that article years ago (like I did) if you’d had decent, credible sources during Covid.

But, you didn’t. So here we are.

I rest my case.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Gonna quote this over here as its Australian politics. Crow till I die MsTopG Brett Cummings Eagleboy2011




Right here you’ve just shown why this legislation is so diabolical.

Nobody, least of all the government or the mainstream media (both of whom are exempt from these laws!) should be deciding what classifies as “decent” free speech.

The government serves the people, not the other way around.

We’ve just come out of an era, during Covid, where a lot of things deemed “misinformation” at the time turned out to be true. If you haven’t learned any lessons from that, I don’t know what to tell you.

To put these laws into perspective, in terms of how they will work in practice, Channel 7 (just to use a random example), will be allowed to say whatever it wants on social media, while you will be restricted.

That’s just one aspect of how shocking these laws are for the basic freedoms of everyday Australians. But I think it demonstrates the point.

Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024

Helpful information Text of bill First reading: Text of the bill as introduced into the Parliament Third reading: Prepared if the bill is amended by the house in which it was introduced. This version of the bill is then considered by the second house. As passed by

www.aph.gov.au

Just posted the link for anyone else to read.

On the surface I think it has great merit but there is a problem. Most social media use algorithms to police the rules. So this will be no different. By asking social media companies to police this, it will fall to a lazy algorithm which means any sloppy wording or quote could be highlighted by the algorithm for breaking the rules. Im not in favour of this at all. This should be a police matter.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Lmao. Asks for credible source, gets crushed by credible source.

Bet you regret asking for that source now



You would’ve known everything in that article years ago (like I did) if you’d had decent, credible sources during Covid.

But, you didn’t. So here we are.

I rest my case.

I provided you 4 independent credible resources... which of course you ignored as the truth hurts & completely debunks your anti-vaxxers are more intelligent claim.

Here is an interesting article for you & few on this board.

‘It’s almost like grooming’: how anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, and the far-right came together over COVID

Far right nationalists, anti-vaxxers, libertarians and conspiracy theorists have come together over COVID, and capitalised on the anger and uncertainty simmering in some sections of the community.

theconversation.com

 

[MrKK]

No one has said all actions that were taken were perfect & lessons should be learnt.

These actions that you charitably describe as not perfect - what label do you think the government applied to criticism of those measures at the time? Hint: it starts with 'm'.

 

[adelaidecrows]

I provided you 4 independent credible resources... which of course you ignored as the truth hurts & completely debunks your anti-vaxxers are more intelligent claim.

Here is an interesting article for you & few on this board.

‘It’s almost like grooming’: how anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, and the far-right came together over COVID

Far right nationalists, anti-vaxxers, libertarians and conspiracy theorists have come together over COVID, and capitalised on the anger and uncertainty simmering in some sections of the community.

theconversation.com

SP only deals in favourable news so unless you are nose deep up his ass then you are wrong. He doesnt debate, he dictates.

 

[adelaidecrows]

These actions that you charitably describe as not perfect - what label do you think the government applied to criticism of those measures at the time? Hint: it starts with 'm'.

The only way to solve the issues of the covid crisis (I presume you are talking about) is a royal commission. Cant let it slide unstudied just because it might make a few look bad. It will only become an unnecessary shit show for future generations.