Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Mutineer]

Do you know the availability of ATMs in the country near you? I'm sure not all country people have easy access.

Our nearby Drakes supermarket had its BankSA atm replace with an ATM where you pay to withdraw. It was a smart move by the Drakes manager as it encourages you to go inside and buy something and get an over the counter cash withdrawal.
Not so good for a BankSA customer with afterhours withdrawals.

Beaufort has 2 ATM's, one a Bendigo Bank at the Library $3 a withdrawl for non Bendigo Bank customers, the other at the newsagency until recently was an ANZ ATM $3 a withdrawl for non ANZ customers now a ATMX (Armaguard/Lindsay Fox) $4 withdrawl for non customers.

There was a National bank when we first shifted here but that closed about 10 years ago so the community now run a Bendigo Bank branch after an agreement with Bendigo Bank, seems to be flourishing..

 

[MrKK]

What are you suggesting needs to be done?

Will be interesting to see what the AU & USA merger means.

It means $$$ for the senior management who will either gift themselves pay rises for running a bigger institution or get a fat redundancy package, and even bigger $$$ for the consultancy firms that will be spending years trying to combine the two unis.

And it will mean pain for everyone else.

 

[ADL9798]

Well perhaps put your cash under the bed. Sorry you probably can’t do that as that is where the “commies are”.

Lol'd.

 

[Slippery Pete]

After all these years, Kirky’s finally found someone who thinks he’s funny.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Oh, look

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/us-lawmakers-back-covid-chinese-lab-leak-theory-after-twoyear-probe/news-story/cb7174e15eb1f90e55e2da5d84479d7c

Covid-19 likely leaked from a Chinese laboratory, according to a two-year investigation into pandemic in the US.

Lockdowns ‘did more harm than good’

The probe also found that lockdowns “did more harm than good” and that mask mandates were “ineffective at controlling the spread of Covid-19”, contradicting other research showing that masking in public does reduce transmission rates.
“The ‘six feet apart’ social distancing recommendation — which shut down schools and small business across the country — was arbitrary and not based on science,” the report said. “During closed door testimony, Dr Fauci testified that the guidance, ‘sort of just appeared’.”

The science also “never justified” school closures, which the panel said would have an “enduring impact” on children.

Vaccine ‘did not stop the spread’

“Vaccine mandates were not supported by science and caused more harm than good,” the report said, adding that public health officials “engaged in a coordinated effort to ignore natural immunity — which is acquired through previous Covid-19 infection”.

“The Biden administration coerced healthy Americans into compliance with Covid-19 vaccine mandates that trampled individual freedoms, harmed military readiness, and disregarded medical freedom to force a novel vaccine on millions of Americans without sufficient evidence to support their policy decisions.”

They also found lack of acknowledgment and proper reporting of vaccine injuries “deteriorated public trust in vaccine safety” and the government was “failing to efficiently, fairly, and transparently adjudicate claims for the Covid-19 vaccine injured”.

 

[ringo200]

Just a quick note that researchers in the field have been pretty convinced from the start that COVID was not a lab leak and this does not change that.

https://www.science.org/content/article/house-panel-concludes-covid-19-pandemic-came-lab-leak

After a 2-year investigation, a House of Representatives committee investigating the COVID-19 pandemic has released a wide-ranging final report criticizing the actions of several U.S. science agencies and concluding that SARS-CoV-2 did not originate naturally, as many scientists think, but likely leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China.

the committee’s 520-page report, released on 2 December, offers no new direct evidence of a lab leak,

If you're interested in a bit more about why researchers think this:

TWiV Special: How the pandemic began in Nature, in 5 key points

TWiV rebuts a recent opinion piece which falsely claims that the COVID-19 pandemic began in a lab (it began in Nature). This material has been extracted from TWiV 1121.

www.microbe.tv

TWiV 1017: From Nature, not a lab

Vincent travels to the University of Pennsylvania to meet up with Susan, Rick, Gigi and David to discuss the origin of SARS-CoV-2, how the FBI might have reached its conclusion on the matter, and public and political perception of scientific risk.

www.microbe.tv

 

[Vader]

Just a quick note that researchers in the field have been pretty convinced from the start that COVID was not a lab leak and this does not change that.

https://www.science.org/content/article/house-panel-concludes-covid-19-pandemic-came-lab-leak

If you're interested in a bit more about why researchers think this:

TWiV Special: How the pandemic began in Nature, in 5 key points

TWiV rebuts a recent opinion piece which falsely claims that the COVID-19 pandemic began in a lab (it began in Nature). This material has been extracted from TWiV 1121.

www.microbe.tv

TWiV 1017: From Nature, not a lab

Vincent travels to the University of Pennsylvania to meet up with Susan, Rick, Gigi and David to discuss the origin of SARS-CoV-2, how the FBI might have reached its conclusion on the matter, and public and political perception of scientific risk.

www.microbe.tv

Yeah, opinion seems to be genuinely divided among the experts. Seems to be roughly 70% saying it started in the wet market, and 30% thinking it's a lab leak. In reality, we don't know, and we'll never really know.

 

[ringo200]

I also think it was easier said than done to keep school's open during the pandemic, as seen by American schools that tried to do this and had so many staff and students off unwell they had to ask parents and the national guard to fill in to attempt to keep things going.

States call in the National Guard to mitigate school staffing shortages

For two years, the pandemic has hammered schools and accentuated the staffing shortages they are facing. It’s led to enormous problems with teacher morale, burnout, school closures and learning losses. But some states are using the National Guard to fill in the gaps. Becky Pringle, president of...

www.pbs.org

 

[Slippery Pete]

Just a quick note that researchers in the field have been pretty convinced from the start that COVID was not a lab leak and this does not change that.

https://www.science.org/content/article/house-panel-concludes-covid-19-pandemic-came-lab-leak

If you're interested in a bit more about why researchers think this:

TWiV Special: How the pandemic began in Nature, in 5 key points

TWiV rebuts a recent opinion piece which falsely claims that the COVID-19 pandemic began in a lab (it began in Nature). This material has been extracted from TWiV 1121.

www.microbe.tv

TWiV 1017: From Nature, not a lab

Vincent travels to the University of Pennsylvania to meet up with Susan, Rick, Gigi and David to discuss the origin of SARS-CoV-2, how the FBI might have reached its conclusion on the matter, and public and political perception of scientific risk.

www.microbe.tv

I couldn’t give two shits if it came from a lab or not.

The issue is that people were censored and silenced and punished for saying it was, when it was clearly a legitimate claim worthy of discussion.

And that was a common theme all throughout Covid on a number of issues covered in that report.

 

[Mutineer]

I couldn’t give two shits if it came from a lab or not.

The issue is that people were censored and silenced and punished for saying it was, when it was clearly a legitimate claim worthy of discussion.

And that was a common theme all throughout Covid on a number of issues covered in that report.

Correct as usual.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Well perhaps put your cash under the bed. Sorry you probably can’t do that as that is where the “commies are”.

I don’t know about you but I rarely have cash on me, probably keep $20 (maximum) just in case on me at any time.

You need cash, go to an ATM, doesn’t cost you $3 and can get $2k out per day.

Just like cheques are being phased out by 2026, needing bulk amounts of cash will too.

Commonwealth Bank backs down on $3 cash withdrawal fee

The fee was to apply from January 6 for customers when they withdraw cash from tellers in bank branches, post offices or over the phone.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Commonwealth Bank has paused a $3 in-person cash withdrawal fee for some customers after backlash from Australians who vowed to close their accounts in protest.

'We acknowledge we haven't got the communication right about this,' Mr Sullivan said.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I also think it was easier said than done to keep school's open during the pandemic, as seen by American schools that tried to do this and had so many staff and students off unwell they had to ask parents and the national guard to fill in to attempt to keep things going.

States call in the National Guard to mitigate school staffing shortages

For two years, the pandemic has hammered schools and accentuated the staffing shortages they are facing. It’s led to enormous problems with teacher morale, burnout, school closures and learning losses. But some states are using the National Guard to fill in the gaps. Becky Pringle, president of...

www.pbs.org

FFS they weren’t short-staffed because they were sick, they were short-staffed because hundreds of perfectly healthy asymptomatic people within a 5000km radius of anyone who sneezed were put into isolation for the best part of two f*cking years.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Commonwealth Bank backs down on $3 cash withdrawal fee

The fee was to apply from January 6 for customers when they withdraw cash from tellers in bank branches, post offices or over the phone.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Commonwealth Bank has paused a $3 in-person cash withdrawal fee for some customers after backlash from Australians who vowed to close their accounts in protest.

'We acknowledge we haven't got the communication right about this,' Mr Sullivan said.

Heard on 5AA this morning.

"once people robbed banks now banks rob people"

 

[kirky]

Typical elite Kirky. F/u I'm all right jack attitude.
The issue is the $3 to have the privilege to withdraw your own money. Not everyone has a convenient atm close by and some people prefer cash. A lot of ATM's also are being withdrawn or replaced by ATM's that charge you.
I pay almost everything on card, do online banking but not all people have or want to do that. I have mates that don't own a computer and prefer cash.
My BankSA branch has a minimal withdrawal of $50, and my card allows a max $1k /per day.

A current affair last night had someone on from Combank trying to explain it. He struggled imho Like all these exec types they throw figures and percentages about to confuse the issue without just saying it's just a plain a grab for more of your money.

You do get that it doesn’t apply to people under 18, pensioners etc.

So just who is needing to withdraw large amounts of cash? Every branch (the same place where you might want to withdraw cash over the counter) has an ATM.

Given you ain’t a pensioner (assuming), why the **** are you using cash?

Well if people (again not inc those say over 70) and don’t own a computer, ipad, smartphone etc, well do they live in a cave?

Again there is a cost associated with and they are well within their rights to charge for the small % of people who use it.

Do you directly or your superfund own shares in the banks?

Now I understand people generally don’t like change but like most things in life you can avoid the cost.

I remember way back in 1984 at a training course that ATMs would be the end of branches etc. Life is all about change and evolving.

 

[kirky]

Do you know the availability of ATMs in the country near you? I'm sure not all country people have easy access.

Our nearby Drakes supermarket had its BankSA atm replace with an ATM where you pay to withdraw. It was a smart move by the Drakes manager as it encourages you to go inside and buy something and get an over the counter cash withdrawal.
Not so good for a BankSA customer with afterhours withdrawals.

Again, I ask why the need for cash?

Evolve and adapt.

 

[kirky]

After all these years, Kirky’s finally found someone who thinks he’s funny.

I’m not a Neanderthal like some posters on here who are resistant to change.

Evolve and adapt.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Again, I ask why the need for cash?

Evolve and adapt.

Personal preference for many people. People are still allowed that in your society aren't they.

 

[kirky]

Personal preference for many people. People are still allowed that in your society aren't they.

Do you even know how and why banking evolved?

Yes and lets say 95% don’t use cash then the 5% pay for the privilege. Again, this doesn’t apply to minors (those under 18 if you didn’t know) or pensioners etc.

God I wished football started.

 

[kirky]

Personal preference for many people. People are still allowed that in your society aren't they.

Do these same people write cheques?

 

[ringo200]

FFS they weren’t short-staffed because they were sick, they were short-staffed because hundreds of perfectly healthy asymptomatic people within a 5000km radius of anyone who sneezed were put into isolation for the best part of two f*cking years.

Yeah I just don't buy that everything would have gone smoothly had we opened schools with no measures in place. Sweden tried to avoid things like this as much as they could and ended up finding an increase in child mortality (which is not definitively linked to COVID here to be fair):

https://www.science.org/content/article/critics-slam-letter-prestigious-journal-downplayed-covid-19-risks-swedish

But the emails obtained by Malmberg show that in July 2020, Ludvigsson wrote to Tegnell that "unfortunately we see a clear indication of excess mortality among children ages 7-16 old, the ages where ‘kids went to school.'" For the years 2015 through 2019, an average of 30.4 children in that age group died in the four spring months; in 2020, 51 children in that age group died, "= excess mortality +68%," Ludvigsson wrote.

and ended up closing schools anyways:

I couldn’t give two shits if it came from a lab or not.

The issue is that people were censored and silenced and punished for saying it was, when it was clearly a legitimate claim worthy of discussion.

And that was a common theme all throughout Covid on a number of issues covered in that report.

Again I'm not sure I buy this, it was hard to escape the heterodox views at times even from mainstream publications and I would argue plenty have benefited from being very outspoken about these views.

Robert Malone and Peter McCullough got to share their ideas with the biggest podcast in the world, no doubt a boost for McCullough's supplement company.

Scott Atlas expressed heteredox views on COVID and was made Trump's Special Coronavirus advisor in his first administration.

Many have had their voices amplified with roles through the Jeffrey Tucker funded Brownstone Institute.

Jay Bhattacharya looks like he is going to rewarded with a role in the new Trump administration.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Yeah I just don't buy that everything would have gone smoothly had we opened schools with no measures in place.

Shutting schools (and closing state borders) was always counter to the health advice. You can go back and check this right from the beginning. Like almost everything else that happened in 2020, 2021 and 2022, these were political decisions, not evidenced-based health decisions.

Jay Bhattacharya looks like he is going to rewarded with a role in the new Trump administration.

Not sure what that has to do with him and others like him being censored and attacked in 2020, 2021 and 2022 when the information they were providing was critical to the public discourse.

 

[kirky]

Good god we should ban anyone talking about Covid-19.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yeah, opinion seems to be genuinely divided among the experts. Seems to be roughly 70% saying it started in the wet market, and 30% thinking it's a lab leak. In reality, we don't know, and we'll never really know.

One thing is for sure, all these types of diseases tend to orginate from a select few countries.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Commonwealth Bank backs down on $3 cash withdrawal fee

The fee was to apply from January 6 for customers when they withdraw cash from tellers in bank branches, post offices or over the phone.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Commonwealth Bank has paused a $3 in-person cash withdrawal fee for some customers after backlash from Australians who vowed to close their accounts in protest.

'We acknowledge we haven't got the communication right about this,' Mr Sullivan said.

Bloody idiots... reckon they can just absorb the cost from their mega profits.

 

[kirky]

Bloody idiots... reckon they can just absorb the cost from their mega profits.

Nah, I’m a shareholder, I want them to maximise their profits.