Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[kirky]

Food for thought

https://www.herbertsmithfreehills.com/notes/energy/2024-posts/Is-Nuclear-Power-the-solution-to-Australia-s-Energy-Transition-

 

[Mutineer]

The problem is the reliable coal powered plants are no longer reliable. And you can’t turn them on and off, which is why gas is the transition fuel. Got it?

Do you know once Snowy Hydro 2 is up in running in 2028, how many homes it can power for a week from storage?

Your lefty mates at RenewEconomy don't sound too enthusiastic...

Snowy 2.0’s updated business case is flawed, again

Last week an updated Business Case for Snowy 2.0 was released. Like every aspect of this hapless, over-hyped project it is late, inadequate, and unrealistically optimistic.

reneweconomy.com.au

 

[Mutineer]

Food for thought

https://www.herbertsmithfreehills.com/notes/energy/2024-posts/Is-Nuclear-Power-the-solution-to-Australia-s-Energy-Transition-

LOL

A law firm experts in nuclear science..I think not.

 

[kirky]

LOL

A law firm experts in nuclear science..I think not.

So discount things without even looking at the points presented.

Just so typical of you.

Just so we keep reminding you, nuclear ain’t happening in Australia.

 

[Mutineer]

So discount things without even looking at the points presented.

Just so typical of you.

Just so we keep reminding you, nuclear ain’t happening in Australia.

Points made by a law firm on nuclear science and energy delivery...spare me please. Expertise less than nought on the subject.

 

[Mutineer]

Slippery Pete Crow till I die

A must read..widely published article in many media outlets.

Only an excerpt allowed by BF rules but the whole article is brilliant by award winning author and widely published journalist Lionel Shriver.

We may finally be recovering from the woke brain rot

For the first time in decades, the sane among us have the upper hand.

www.spiked-online.com

We may finally be recovering from the woke brain rot​

For the first time in decades, the sane among us have the upper hand.

Across the non-left media world, it’s now an article of faith that Trump’s emphatic victory is a woke watershed. After asking petulantly for year upon year, ‘Now have we hit peak woke?’, like children in the backseat nagging daddy are we there yet, we learn repeatedly from the Spectator, the Daily Telegraph, and the Wall Street Journal that the progressive lunacy that’s tormented us since about 2014 (if not since 1965) has been roundly defeated.
A decisive death knell for identity politics dangles the blessed possibility of no longer squandering our brief duration on this Earth on stupid conversations. One of the grimmest victories of today’s poor excuse for ‘progress’ has been to lure otherwise intelligent people into having debates over whether: women can have penises; racial discrimination cures racism; advancement in employment and education should be determined by skin colour; the Western civilisation that gave us penicillin, Rembrandt, Bach and the Hubble Space Telescope is a disgrace; being grotesquely fat is healthy; and wearing a sombrero that you bought yourself on Amazon is theft. Friends, the folks who’ve really been stealing – and high-value items: our precious time, energy and attention – are the doctrinal morons who’ve roped us into addressing these painfully self-evident questions. Countless essays and columns on my hard drive are embarrassments. I have devoted whole afternoons to seriously considering whether a mass movement to sterilise children and cut off their healthy body parts is a good idea.

 

[kirky]

Got you lot with your “woke” obsession.

Lunacy since 1965? WTF.

Literally brain dead individuals who are easily manipulated.

Seriously sad.

 

[Mutineer]

ABC copping a real pasting over their New Year's Eve program, supposed to be a show for the families and children bringing in the new year, entertainment turns into a lecture when will the ABC stick to entertaining and not lecturing it's viewers...is it really any wonder they are struggling to draw mainstream Aussies to their programs.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/national-broadcaster-abc-spent-record-1137-billion-in-taxpayer-funds-as-audience-numbers-plummet/news-story/678d5b694bd1e11ca1eb6fb7adcf4727

National broadcaster ABC spent record $1.137 billion in taxpayer funds as audience numbers plummet​

The ABC received record injections of more than $1.1 billion in taxpayer funds in the last year – while its total audience dropped dramatically. Read where your cash is going.

The ABC received record injections of more than $1.1 billion in taxpayer funds in the last year – while its total audience dropped by 670,000 people a week on average – as the national broadcaster revealed its outgoing managing director is on a $1.1 million salary.
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation’s 2024 annual report, released on Tuesday, revealed it spent a record $1.137 billion in taxpayer funds this last financial year, an increase of almost $30 million it got from the federal government in 2022-23 and the most amount of cash ever handed over to the national broadcaster.
However, the cash splash won’t stop there, with $1.196 billion in government funds being budgeted for the next financial year.
The report revealed the national broadcaster returned just $100 million in self-made revenue in the last year – less than 10 per cent of what it charges the taxpayer to operate.

“The ABC operated within its total sources of funds and revenue from Government for

the 2023–24 financial year, recording a minor technical operating deficit of $2.2 million,” the financial statements read.

The report confirmed that after the broadcaster was allocated $1,137.6 million in the May 2023 Federal Budget, it also secured $20.9m for the “Better Funded National Broadcasters” fund, a further $8m for the “Pacific Security and Engagement Initiatives” fund and an additional $8.5 million over four years from 2023–24 for Pacific integration transmission services as part of the Enhancing Pacific Engagement measure.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Points made by a law firm on nuclear science and energy delivery...spare me please. Expertise less than nought on the subject.

Yet you ignore the majority of energy experts who say Nuclear is not viable.

Can't have it both ways...

 

[Mutineer]

I wonder why billionaire renewables investor Simon Holmes A Court and tryhard Bowen never mention this hey...

Hidden Costs, Rusting Relics: Decommissioning Wind Turbines In The US

The U.S. Wind Turbine Database contains more than 74,695 wind turbines built since 1980, spread between 1,699 wind power projects in 45 states.

www.forbes.com

 

[Mutineer]

More reality..

 

[Doctor B]

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AEMO chief warns no chance of nuclear replacing ageing coal plants​

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s plan to build seven nuclear reactors would take too long to replace ageing coal generators, the chief executive of the Australian Energy Market Operator has warned, as he backed gas as the grid’s “ultimate backstop”.

“Even on the most optimistic outlook, nuclear power won’t be ready in time for the exit of Australia’s coal-fired power stations,” AEMO’s Daniel Westerman said on Tuesday. “The imperative to replace that retiring coal generation is with us now.”

However, Mr Westerman said while gas generation may only be used 5 per cent of the time, it will be “the ultimate backstop to ensure reliable electricity supply” as the grid transitions away from coal power.

 

[Mutineer]

Perhaps Westerman can explain how using gas until nuclear comes on line is any different than using gas until renewables come on line which is way way way behind in the roll out of the ridiculous targets numbnuts Bowen was predicting, not even in the same ballpark. Noting a $2 Billion renewables project has just been killed by an investment company from overseas that Bowen was trumpeting not that long ago

 

[adelaidecrows]

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AEMO chief warns no chance of nuclear replacing ageing coal plants​

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s plan to build seven nuclear reactors would take too long to replace ageing coal generators, the chief executive of the Australian Energy Market Operator has warned, as he backed gas as the grid’s “ultimate backstop”.

“Even on the most optimistic outlook, nuclear power won’t be ready in time for the exit of Australia’s coal-fired power stations,” AEMO’s Daniel Westerman said on Tuesday. “The imperative to replace that retiring coal generation is with us now.”

However, Mr Westerman said while gas generation may only be used 5 per cent of the time, it will be “the ultimate backstop to ensure reliable electricity supply” as the grid transitions away from coal power.

I dont mind the plan to build 7 Nuc Plants, it will be great to finally get electricity sorted in the country. But at a minimum we will be looking at 2055 before they come online. So you would have to suggest that not only will there be a massive cost outlay just for those but there will have to be a significant investment into coal power assuming we dont continue with renewable projects either. Credit where credit is due though, at least Dutton is thinking about the future here and spitballing some plans. The Australian electricity crises is inexcusable, should never have happened and both governments passing the buck onto the next and ignoring the problem has significantly screwed the country.

 

[Slippery Pete]

The COVID vaccine obsessed cookers that reply to these stories are hardly proof of anything.

Just because there's ridiculous claims being made that long COVID is vaccine induced it doesn't substantiate it.

I work with a woman who had long COVID who wasn't vaccinated and there's also the fact that long COVID was around before the vaccine.

Vast majority of cases are in the vaccinated. So it’s either not effective, or it’s the cause. Neither is good news. C’mon man.

See this story btw? This was the mob you implicitly trusted. Which is more naive than nefarious if I’m being charitable.

Except that a lot of you then cheered on the government mandating this organization’s products on people. And Kirky, I will keep talking about it until every single one of you admits that was wrong.

Popular contraceptive and endometriosis treatment linked to brain tumour

The contraceptive Depo-Provera has been linked to an increased risk of developing a non-malignant brain tumour, prompting lawsuits in the US and Canada. Now Australian patients are considering a class action.

www.abc.net.au

 

[MrKK]

Vast majority of cases are in the vaccinated. So it’s either not effective, or it’s the cause. Neither is good news. C’mon man.

See this story btw? This was the mob you implicitly trusted. Which is more naive than nefarious if I’m being charitable.

Except that a lot of you then cheered on the government mandating this organization’s products on people. And Kirky, I will keep talking about it until every single one of you admits that was wrong.

Popular contraceptive and endometriosis treatment linked to brain tumour

The contraceptive Depo-Provera has been linked to an increased risk of developing a non-malignant brain tumour, prompting lawsuits in the US and Canada. Now Australian patients are considering a class action.

www.abc.net.au

Key point from the article is that it's taken 50 years from the first availability of this product for the link to be confirmed, although there were studies suggesting it 20 years ago.

The idea that everything good and bad about the Covid vaccines could be known in mere months in order to label them "safe and effective" was utter fantasy.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Key point from the article is that it's taken 50 years from the first availability of this product for the link to be confirmed, although there were studies suggesting it 20 years ago.

The idea that everything good and bad about the Covid vaccines could be known in mere months in order to label them "safe and effective" was utter fantasy.

Given millions of people were dying prior to covax, having a vaccination program was a far better alternative.

Like every vaccine, some people have adverse reactions, but this issue compared to the countless lives saved is minimal.

If a covax program was not implemented, millions more people would have died as covid was more deadly at the time.

This is a very simple risk assessment to make.

Is everything perfect in the world... no.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Imo, this is a scam... gave up using them yonks ago as never worked. Why did it take so long & someone needs to investigate their dodgy clinical trials!

Class action filed against Johnson & Johnson over 'ineffective' flu medication

A Brisbane law firm has filed a class action against Johnson & Johnson alleging the pharmaceutical giant made false claims about the effectiveness of popular brands of cold and flu medication.

www.abc.net.au

 

[StonesThrow]

I dont mind the plan to build 7 Nuc Plants, it will be great to finally get electricity sorted in the country. But at a minimum we will be looking at 2055 before they come online. So you would have to suggest that not only will there be a massive cost outlay just for those but there will have to be a significant investment into coal power assuming we dont continue with renewable projects either. Credit where credit is due though, at least Dutton is thinking about the future here and spitballing some plans. The Australian electricity crises is inexcusable, should never have happened and both governments passing the buck onto the next and ignoring the problem has significantly screwed the country.

If a 4 year old scribbles an energy plan down on paper at kindy, should we give them credit as well and start a 'sensible conversation' about it?

Just because someone has an idea, doesn't mean it's reasonable and we should side track a transition that's finally starting to pick up steam.

Almost every expert on the NEM from all types of businesses and organisations have rubbished the idea and none of the criticisms have been addressed.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Climate change is real... last year was our 2nd warmest year on record, not far off our hottest year. Definite trend...

Australia registers 2nd warmest year on record

Australia had its second warmest year on record in 2024, with a mean annual temperature close to 1.5 degrees above the long-term average.

www.weatherzone.com.au

 

[Mutineer]

Climate change is real... last year was our 2nd warmest year on record, not far off our hottest year. Definite trend...

Australia registers 2nd warmest year on record

Australia had its second warmest year on record in 2024, with a mean annual temperature close to 1.5 degrees above the long-term average.

www.weatherzone.com.au

And China and India gleefully go on burning Australian coal and we will keep supplying them to 2050 no doubt at all..

At least China has the good sense to also be buiding nuclear reactors to support a reliable baseload looking to the future.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

And China and India gleefully go on burning Australian coal and we will keep supplying them to 2050 no doubt at all..

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Keep selling it to China.

"You have the watches, but we have the time"

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[Slippery Pete]

The COVID vaccine obsessed cookers that reply to these stories are hardly proof of anything.

Indeed, these cookers have even gotten their foot into medical journals!

Long COVID Sufferers can take heart

This article acknowledges the increased knowledge, acceptance and awareness of long COVID but emphasises the need for more guidance on handling and diagnosing long COVID and supporting patients.

www1.racgp.org.au

Recipients of two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines display a class switch to IgG4 antibodies. Abnormally high levels of IgG4 might cause autoimmune diseases, promote cancer growth, autoimmune myocarditis and other IgG 4-related diseases (IgG4-RD) in susceptible individuals.29 There are clear implications for vaccine boosting where these and similar observations8,22,30 relating to COVID-19 vaccination and the incidence of long COVID-like symptoms are substantiated, adding further to public health officials’ concerns. Understanding the persistence of viral mRNA and viral protein and their cellular pathological effects after vaccination with and without infection is clearly required. Because COVID-19 vaccines were approved without long-term safety data and might cause immune dysfunction, it is perhaps premature to assume that past SARS-CoV-2 infection is the sole common factor in long COVID.8

A Case Report: Long Post-COVID Vaccination Syndrome During the Eleven Months After the Third Moderna Dose - PMC

It is undisputed that anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccines can have side effects. Long post-COVID vaccination syndrome (LPCVS) is one of them and is often neglected. It persists 11 months after the third mRNA-1273 (Moderna) vaccine dose has not been reported. ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Long post-COVID vaccination syndrome is a definite complication of anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccinations and can severely impact the quality of life and lead to disability. Despite extensive workup, a clear cause for the long-term neuro-cognitive deficits may not be identified. However, symptomatic treatment can provide relief. Patients with LPCVS should be taken seriously and treated appropriately.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And China and India gleefully go on burning Australian coal and we will keep supplying them to 2050 no doubt at all..

At least China has the good sense to also be buiding nuclear reactors to support a reliable baseload looking to the future.

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Your usual response... if other countries are not doing everything needed, why should we.

Guess I'm someone who prefers to do the right thing & not drag myself down to the lowest common denominator.

We can hardly call out other countries if we are not doing right by the environment.

 

[MrKK]

Given millions of people were dying prior to covax, having a vaccination program was a far better alternative.

Like every vaccine, some people have adverse reactions, but this issue compared to the countless lives saved is minimal.

If a covax program was not implemented, millions more people would have died as covid was more deadly at the time.

This is a very simple risk assessment to make.

Is everything perfect in the world... no.

The precautionary principle, that underpins emergency management plans, would direct you to do the exact opposite of what you said.