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Australian white-ball tour of Scotland and England, September 2024
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RRR above 6 now. Review for caught.
No bat
No lbw
1 wicket remaining, no reviews left for either team.
At 7 down in the first innings I was half resigned to a loss.
Won by 69. Never in doubt.
We have a streak? Going back to the world cup?
Yeah 14 in a row, second highest ever, only beaten by Aussies 21 in 2003
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God this English outfit has some very ordinary players. Jacks , Salt, Livingston and the bowling attack of Potts Stone Archer Topley and Carse has to be up there as the worst from any of the nations.
Should have been a 350 score but some very lazy batting from the Aussies just throwing wickets away.
Should have been a 350 score but some very lazy batting from the Aussies just throwing wickets away.
And it seems that they, once again are taking moral ground.
Their skipper,doesn't care that they get caught out on the boundary. A guess any loss is a win for them.
Their skipper,doesn't care that they get caught out on the boundary. A guess any loss is a win for them.
7th ODI win in a row over that rabble. They're afraid to fail, so they pretend winning is not the goal. It's been funny to us for a couple years now, but you can tell the english crowd & commentators are over it.
No need to make excuses for them.
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It's great to see Carey perform well in England after the shameful way he was treated last there last year.
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While I don't disagree - it's not just the wickets, it's the combination of ground sizes and the use of a different ball at either end keeping the ball harder for longer - there's also the affect T20 is having on the ODI game and the increased levels of participation/professionalism generated by the IPL and T20 franchises around the world. Where once upon a time only the top level - international quality players - could play against the best, now you have a massive second and third tier of player that are getting blooded and experienced against opponents of differing quality and are finding ways to succeed.
Look at the relative squads for this tour and our squads from 20-30 years ago. There was considerable overlap between the ODI and the test squads at all times, the thinking being that it took the best to compete with the best which kept the list of chosen few very narrow. These days, there's a lot more acknowledgement of the different requirements between formats and how the like has allowed a player like Marcus Stoinis - a bits and pieces player, who in another era would've played a single test and perhaps 10 ODI's and that's it - to blossom despite detractors. Bigger lists and increased participation mean more opportunities to develop skills.
There's also the reality that ODI's outside of the WC aren't worth very much, and despite the fact it's England vs Australia both teams are selecting players that it could be argued aren't in their best lineups.
Agree completely, looks as though it’s no big deal to get a game for Australia now. Pretty much everyone gets a crack. You don’t have to earn it any longer with weight of runs and wickets. Just Hollywood being a cricketer these days.
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... I mean... it's not really a bad thing, is it?
We're the reigning ODI world champions, won away against a supposedly all time dominant ODI side, with the bit parts of the test squad and the best hits of previous eras. We're regenerating a bit now - kind of need to, with the age of the fast bowlers and the batters - but that regeneration's going pretty well given the degree to which we're dispatching England pretty tidily.
The idea that playing for Australia is something to be gatekept is a bit... archaic for me. There's a reasonable impression from the golden era that there were a number of cricketers that were extremely unlucky not to play more test/ODI cricket for Australia; under this kind of status quo, they'd have done so and have had every opportunity to do well, and those cricketers they replaced would've had every reason to try and play their best to get back in, safe in the acknowledgement that the barrier was just form and space instead of the ridiculous baggy green curtain insulating the dressing room of the Australian side from the rest of Australian cricket.
It's interesting to me that there's this begrudging acknowledgement that while we're not the dominant side we've been we win an awful lot - we punch above our weight - we also treat the current establishment as though they're not fit to wear the caps of the previous generation. It's a bit silly, IMO.
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