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You're entitled to your view but the only part I respectfully disagree with is wins and losses not really mattering. If they don't matter because wrestling isn't real then what's the point in even watching? Spiderman isn't real but the world still pays hundreds of millions of dollars to see him get involved in a storyline and beat the bad guys.



As I said above, if you're laughing at my points about keeping the local guys strong then you're laughing at legitimate hall of fame bookers and promoters because they've been doing that for decades, this isn't MY concept I'm posting. You mentioned Robbie so you clearly get excited for him, did you know that in PWA he has only taken on average 2 losses a year across his entire 18 year career there? Is that laughable?

Also, you're shifting the posts, your original argument was that the booking wasn't bad, now you're arguing that the bad booking won't impact ticket sales and that the fans aren't smart enough to realise that the QLD guys were booked badly. Which is it?
When i say wins and losses don’t matter i mean more in the form of independent promotions seperate from one another and within context.

Delta losing all those matches on her way out doesn’t hurt her at all because of the context behind them.

Jarvis being a heel and winning and retaining his tag titles in renegades doesn’t detract from his story as a rising baby face in mcw.

Jesse Lambert won interstate but his story in EPW about getting his first win isn’t damaged.

My point is - i think pulling up people’s wins and loss records to apply meaning to them is silly. Who cares if cava hasn’t won a bunch of matches, it’s wrestling, it’s about the story your telling through those matches - if someone presents him as a killer force and books it’s well, just because his cagemstch doesn’t reflect that doesn’t mean it’s unbelievable.

Pretty much any wrestler that travels from their home promotion takes the L on the interstate show they work - that doesn’t make them a jobber.

Wins and losses have meaning in context to the show/promotion/story but it feels dumb to try an analyse an independent wrestlers record.
 

We're currently doing features on Women's Wrestling at PWDownunder and I got to interview Allie Galvin from Tasmanian Championship Wrestling.
 

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So the Parea just popped up on AEW Dynamite in the opening match.

Spewing Dynamite is delayed (already got enough subs at the moment) awesome stuff. They deserve a shot.

EDiT: Watched delayed telecast on Kayo. Pretty disappointing match IMO, even for a squash. Not sure they would have got much out of that other than experience in front of a televised crowd. Hopefully they get something more substantial in the future soon.
 
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Mcw tonight is killing it

Awesome show tonight, but I do have two queries after the ME...

Are we just re-doing last year's story with different names?? Cos I didn't feel there was much point of difference there at the end.

Maybe a three way wasn't the best idea, especially not with Ugg, if getting Dusk over is the goal... The people hated Ricky, the people loved Ugg. Dusk was liked, but he wasn't getting the people because Ugg was there.
 
If Adam Brooks isn’t the best wrestler in Australia, he’s very close. Sensational match with Robbie Thorpe last night that deservedly received a standing ovation. Robbie Thorpe continues to improve every time I see him too.

MCW is in something of a transitional phase at the minute with a lot of new talent (including a bloke in the opening match who I’m pretty sure is a member of Demolition).

The fact that they continue to sell out in advance, seemingly on the strength of their brand, is a strong endorsement of the goodwill they’ve built up with the audience. Based on the card, there was nothing that stood out to me in advance last night, but I still came away thinking it was a good show and money well spent.
 
If Adam Brooks isn’t the best wrestler in Australia, he’s very close. Sensational match with Robbie Thorpe last night that deservedly received a standing ovation. Robbie Thorpe continues to improve every time I see him too.

MCW is in something of a transitional phase at the minute with a lot of new talent (including a bloke in the opening match who I’m pretty sure is a member of Demolition).

The fact that they continue to sell out in advance, seemingly on the strength of their brand, is a strong endorsement of the goodwill they’ve built up with the audience. Based on the card, there was nothing that stood out to me in advance last night, but I still came away thinking it was a good show and money well spent.
I was in a similar boat. It should be solid. Then it ended up exceptional. Everyone worked so hard. Very japan in some of the match structures (roll ups and different pins towards the end), which is very nice to see since it always gets the crowd into the last third of a match.
 
Genuinely don’t think I can really fault anything from Anniversary - top to bottom really enjoyed all of it. Try not to spoil anything with thoughts

Scramble was fun, really cool to see Kobe Reid getting to shine.

Womens match was fun, really enjoyed seeing how those characters interact. I would’ve liked to see Eugenie defend her title but I don’t anything was lost by her not being there.

Brooksy is the best wrestler in the country I don’t know what else to say, the fact he continues to be unsigned is a crime at this point. Maybe turning the IC belt back into that workhorse belt which I am all for.

Jarvis and Rocky, short and sweet but got the point across and told their story well. That sounds negative but I promise it’s all praise. I like baby face Jarvis, I just hope it doesn’t fall into the place Emman did of just being small baby face #3.

Tag match was good, as to be expected with who was in it. Really enjoyed Ryan & Mitch together. For the match they had I felt the finish was odd but still really had fun! Maybe the best the classics have had in awhile.

Really enjoyed the main and story it was telling for all 3, I wish it went longer just because I feel they continue to scratch the surface of what they guys involved can do but never give us the whole thing, it was great though. Jesus Christ the bumps Dusk was taking, insane.

Overall, I think MCW is positioning itself for a really good interesting year, everything is fresh and new but still continuing to build off what happened last year.

Sue me for being too positive but I can’t really fault much.
 
Genuinely don’t think I can really fault anything from Anniversary - top to bottom really enjoyed all of it. Try not to spoil anything with thoughts

Scramble was fun, really cool to see Kobe Reid getting to shine.

Womens match was fun, really enjoyed seeing how those characters interact. I would’ve liked to see Eugenie defend her title but I don’t anything was lost by her not being there.

Brooksy is the best wrestler in the country I don’t know what else to say, the fact he continues to be unsigned is a crime at this point. Maybe turning the IC belt back into that workhorse belt which I am all for.

Jarvis and Rocky, short and sweet but got the point across and told their story well. That sounds negative but I promise it’s all praise. I like baby face Jarvis, I just hope it doesn’t fall into the place Emman did of just being small baby face #3.

Tag match was good, as to be expected with who was in it. Really enjoyed Ryan & Mitch together. For the match they had I felt the finish was odd but still really had fun! Maybe the best the classics have had in awhile.

Really enjoyed the main and story it was telling for all 3, I wish it went longer just because I feel they continue to scratch the surface of what they guys involved can do but never give us the whole thing, it was great though. Jesus Christ the bumps Dusk was taking, insane.

Overall, I think MCW is positioning itself for a really good interesting year, everything is fresh and new but still continuing to build off what happened last year.

Sue me for being too positive but I can’t really fault much.
I got to caught up in brooksy but Robbie Thorpe wasn’t just there - great performance from him. Probably the best match I’ve seen him have. Gave just as good as he got in that match.
 
The only two things I had that weren't super positive from Saturday are just nit picking from mine.

I enjoyed the main event, but at no time did it seem like Ricky was in danger of losing the belt, felt a little bit telegraphed. Also having every title match end with Icon$ run in is getting a little old.

Brooksy vs Robbie was absolutely exceptional, but if I'm going to nitpick it could've had a bit more legs in storyline development, if Brooksy was ripped off from the title it'd have given his turn on the group more weight and IMO he doesn't really need the belt. For me, the whole story of Jarvis going through the group should culminate in him beating Robbie for the IC, but that's just me.
 

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Also looking at the Pro Wrestling League show on Saturday, for all the discussion of the Supershow "making QLD guys look bad", the set up match with Robbie Eagles vs Mitch Ryder led to Robbie putting Ryder over clean as a sheet in the middle of the ring and setting up the big storyline for the company for the year and pushing Ryder's babyface turn. Who'd have thought actually watching how events would play out would actually pay off, eh?
 

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