Review Autopsy Thread - Dogs v GWS

[TMoney22]

While there wasn't a lot of pressure from us on GWS for the whole game, there were two players in the end killing themselves to try and get the win. Libba and Griffen busted their balls repeatedly in that last quarter.

Glad someone noticed. Libba absolutely busted his ass getting back in defence in those last 2 minutes. Where the hell was everyone else.
Our midfield doesn't help out enough in defence. JJ needs to run harder the other way. I hate seeing Morris try to chase down 2 opponents.

WHE... yes please

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

great clubs like hawthorn never give another club a start like that in a must-win game. they come out with fire in their belly from the first bounce and stamp their authority on the game. we are a side full of shrinking violets and lack true leadership.

i hope you are all prepared for another 3-4 years of garbage because thats what we are in for.

Right like that game we played against them in 2009......

 

[Kony Abbott]

Agree, change the NBA to NHL though- then chuck in the business end of MLB, NFL, EPL, and Test cricket. Summer is great for sports watching!

Cheers to the (four) Dogs supporters who showed up at the Inglewood Hotel today in Perth... but where were all the WA Supporters Club members? How many times do I have to be the only Dogs member in the whole place? If nobody shows up, not even committee members, the pub will withdraw support. Anyway, poor bugger me.

It's the membership staff I feel sorry for- 6 months of disenchantment will do wonders for the club's grand plan to rebuild in time to lose the 2023 prelim. Sorry, very disheartened right now, but I feel like I'm pulling my weight, at the same time as Tom Young thinks that lazily waving an arm around like a sock on a washing line is a tackle.

Oh well, as we say every year, there's always next year.

I shouldn't laugh, but I did.

 

[timtamWB]

Haha, I'm not sure we were tanking for Pick 6 instead of Pick 7.

It wasn't tanking. It was shit.

I beat you to it Already posted I was just shocked and well making excuses pretty much.

 

[Wilfork]

Right like that game we played against them in 2009......

That's relevant to 2014.

 

[the dog's kennel]

It's like GWS were trying to needle me in particular.

Sure, beat us. But beating us off the back of Stewart and McCarthy - that hurts. Bloody GWS and their army of 8 (EIGHT!!!) KPFs. How many of those careers are they going to ruin, when those kids could have turned into quality forwards at other clubs that DESPERATELY need them?

Grrrrrrr.

And by the way, I agree with those who say we need a specialist kicking coach. Time to fully enter the professional era.

 

[Some Idiot]

Right like that game we played against them in 2009......

Always makes me laugh when people make bold sweeping statements that are complete bullshit.
88-4 in the 2nd quarter against the reigning premiers is one of the great scoreboards.

 

[immortalmike]

great clubs like hawthorn never give another club a start like that in a must-win game. they come out with fire in their belly from the first bounce and stamp their authority on the game. we are a side full of shrinking violets and lack true leadership.

i hope you are all prepared for another 3-4 years of garbage because thats what we are in for.

←Round: 14 Venue: Docklands Date: Sat, 4-Jul-2009 7:10 PM Attendance: 36827→
Western Bulldogs9.6.6013.10.8815.14.10419.19.133
Hawthorn0.2.20.4.44.6.306.9.45
Qrt marginWB by 58WB by 84WB by 74WB by 88
Qrt scoresWB 60-2WB 28-2HW 26-16WB 29-15

 

[DognBones]

Just a few observations, none of them original.
We have far too many players on our list with substandard skills and most of them will never improve. Time to swing the axe or at least the tomahawk.
If, next season, we field all of the same veterans and very experienced players that are currently playing, there will be plenty more disappointments to endure.
I'm beginning to agree with an earlier poster (Draft Pick) that our major weakness might just be lack of a quick, classy, great finishing on-baller (or two). What's the use of having a decent forward or two if the delivery is constantly hopeless.
Re Stringer: he is looking star quality but he needs to be aware of his role as a team player as well as an individual game breaker.
The coach emerges from today as the man under most pressure. If I was a teacher and my students were confused, showing minimal improvement in basic skills and floundering under exam conditions, I would seriously question my methods!

On a positive note: seriously enjoyed my day standing on the terrace at Whitten Oval, I came away feeling upbeat and certainly got my money's worth - but then my next stop was Etihad - say no more!

 

[VitalDread]

Lets do a melbourne
we lost to gws lets ask for a first round pick

 

[timtamWB]

Lets do a melbourne
we lost to gws lets ask for a first round pick

Let's keep SOME dignity.

You know, the little shred of it we have left in the corner over there.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

That's relevant to 2014.

You said never!!!! I pointed out that is not the case.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Can't believe the GWS smugness.

**** off. The club's name is an abbreviation, they have the Americanised nickname of 'Giants', and they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and we just get to pick up the scraps and try to compete.

If they think a battling club like Footscray's supporters are going to cop their idiocy on the chin, they can think again.

Win, think it means something, do whatever you want. I don't care, the competition has never been a level playing field, and for as long as the regular Joe in Sydney doesn't give a rats tossbag about AFL, it never will be.

But don't start sticking the boots into a club that has more integrity in the slime on the bottom of the worst player on the list's boots than you have in your entire club.

Rant over... for now.

 

[Dry Rot]

James Stewart is pretty much exactly what the Dogs need.

I'm not sure.

I think his best work was in Vertigo many seasons ago.

 

[dogwatch]

Just a few credits from today's game:

• Griffen was outstanding. A shame he was unable to produce that sort of form throughout the year - mainly due to injury.
• I was impressed with JJ. He was looking to break the lines at every opportunity. Not stop and chip. I know we need accumulators and bigger bodies and players who tackle everything in sight but we also have a desperate need for players who can break the lines and deliver with purpose. I can only think of Griffen, Murphy and JJ. Maybe Hrovat. Rarely Cooney these days. Macrae and Bonty - as good as they are - seldom break the lines and sprint away from the opposition.
• Stringer is very exciting. I don't know what the ceiling is on this bloke's potential. People will pay good money to go and watch him and Bonty play.
• Crameri has had a good year and kicked more goals than he kicked in any one season at Essendon. Four more today just proved the point. He's been a good investment and that investment will only look better when we can find a KPF or two. He is also more than just a canny forward who can take a grab or crumb a goal. He runs and works hard off the ball which benefits the team without ever showing on the stats sheet. We could do with that from more players.
• Minson was quite good today. I'm still mystified by his one week in the VFL.
• Oh ... and Bonty goes all right for an 18yo doesn't he?

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

I'm not sure.

I think his best work was in Vertigo many seasons ago.

Seriously though, it's more the other way round. They have 6 high draft key forwards who will kill his AFL career. You'd think at least he or Jasck, or Tomlinson would see that.

 

[Dry Rot]

Since the final siren I have gone from feeling enraged to sad to just plain despair.

I have so many things that I'm angry about I could almost break Bigfooty's bandwidth just listing them all.

Ok, to start...what an absolutely insipid and disgraceful performance that was today. This was GWS, missing about five key players, who have never won at Etihad, and us, with a retiring and much loved club champion who the players all professed to love and want to send off in style, and we put in that weak, unprofessional, passionless and just downright awful performance.

Despite being so angry I still at the same time feel a touch relieved that we lost, because we absolutely deserved it, and the players deserve to feel ashamed.

The first quarter, and the first half, and not for the first time, was just disgraceful. The way in which we have started games recently is so bad, and whilst I'm not normally in a rush to bash McCartney, the fact that this continues to be an issue is damning on him, as well as the players.

Our skill errors are embarrassing. Our kicking for goal is dreadful. Our spread...do we even have one?

This entire playing group and coaching group need to have a thorough review of everything. All of them have been given enough time and patience by the media and by us fans for losses like today to be unacceptable.

I cannot even think of more gripes to list. They're too many.

Just an utterly depressing way to finish the season. Something has to change. We've been given enough time.

Short of some miracle trades, maybe now you understand my prediction of getting to the finals in 2020.

Dreadful skills, and holes all over the park.

 

[Dry Rot]

Seriously though, it's more the other way round. They have 6 high draft key forwards who will kill his AFL career. You'd think at least he or Jasck, or Tomlinson would see that.

No idea why that silly long haired prick McCarthy extended his contract with GWS.

 

[doggies ftw]

Short of some miracle trades, maybe now you understand my prediction of getting to the finals in 2020.

Dreadful skills, and holes all over the park.

Wanna bet on that? Would put some serious serious cash on you being wrong, very wrong.

 

[Leon]

Short of some miracle trades, maybe now you understand my prediction of getting to the finals in 2020.

Dreadful skills, and holes all over the park.

No club in the league, even St Kilda, should be writing off making finals for the next 6 years

Anyway I'm hardly in the mood to argue about this so let's just agree that today was shithouse

 

[dogwatch]

...
WHE... yes please

Sorry, WHE is now out of our reach after his 5 goal game today. He's a son of the west too ... such a shame.

 

[yebiga]

Aside from the very poor conversion, the deplorable conversion - the result does not mean anything anyway -what stood out was we have far too many slow players.

GWS relied almost entirely on coast to coast or over the back running goals. We could do nothing about.
We just have too many slow players and clearly, Cameron went into this game with the plan to exploit this deficiency. I have never seen the likes of it.

Obviousl, it was GIAs last game, but I see a number of others who's lack of pace hurts us badly. It allows sides to create loose players and kick free and easy running goals.

 

[TedDougChris]

This x 1000

It's not often you have that many shots on goal and lose a game of football. We really do need to re-jig the list and start to weed out those with poor footskills.

Agreed. Where does this leave Boyd ???

 

[TedDougChris]

Let's keep SOME dignity.

You know, the little shred of it we have left in the corner over there.

Is that what that is..... I was going to sweep it up earlier.....

 

[immortalmike]

Let's keep SOME dignity.

You know, the little shred of it we have left in the corner over there.