Earlier you wrote, "I dont understand what all this M1, F2 shizzle is about" and now you're giving it to someone who's genuine in their attempt to help out, even if the advice is that which many of us may know. For someone who's played the game for 10 years I don't see you offer too much other than regurgitate other's work. Who's really spilling with unheard of brilliance?
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Earlier you wrote, "I dont understand what all this M1, F2 shizzle is about" and now you're giving it to someone who's genuine in their attempt to help out, even if the advice is that which many of us may know. For someone who's played the game for 10 years I don't see you offer too much other than regurgitate other's work. Who's really spilling with unheard of brilliance?
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one box on the rookie checklist should be - why are they getting a game? if its a fill-in for a regular that is on a late start they need to be treated with caution as they might not bubble in price... assume Dale Thomas starts later in say round 3ish he'll be a walk up start when fit and may push your rookie selection out of the team and forcing a trade if you don't have cover...this could mean not being able to take the trade you want to take vs the one you have to take.
I'm the one asking where this 10 years of playing DT translates to brilliance posted in this forum. I made no claims of playing any amount of time but all I'm seeing for all of your 10 years of experience is;
1. someone quick to jump on other's comments,
2. someone who professes to be the fount of all things DT in the off season only to go MIA when the season kicks off, and
3. someone so full of himself that he is afraid to post his team because "newbs" are just falling over themselves to copy it.
So for your 10 years of DT, what little gem can YOU provide here? You seem to shoot down a lot of the theories posted in here, but what are your thoughts, not someone else's that have been rehashed?
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1. yep
2. Whats wrong with that?
3. Ive already posted my team
Thoughts on what, ive been talking on this forum since November and now you come on here for one day and provide this trash. I dont see you around in the off season providing info during november,december time to keep this forum pumping. I have a crack at people who come on here feb 1 and just post there teams and ask for analysis and give none to others.
It was light hearted go at Jobe, im sure he wont lose sleep over it.
Edit: If you care to read or use those big bulgy eyes you have then look through i made a thread this year
Your thoughts on new strategies given the rule changes. The only info arguably worth providing in Nov, Dec is training reports and I don't live near a ground. Everything else is just speculation (ie posting your team etc) pending the next lot of DT rule changes.
Thank you for the compliment on my eyes.
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Ive posted plenty about strategy ect since that date and the new rules.
As i said also read that thread. You should be able to understand a little bit of what goes inside my head which it seems you are after.
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like the set of a western movie i'd imagine - lots of dust and dirty thoughts and plenty of wide open spaces eh?
I like how it is possible to do upgrades that are not ideal if you have no other option.
I know it's a hypothetical but I don't think it's an unreasonable scenario.
Your rookie is vested and scores a 20 seriously halting his price rises.
Downgrade said rookie to another promising rookie.
This leaves you cash for another rookie upgrade but you can't quite afford Swan. In the past you might wait a week to get in swanny with another downgrade but one you upgrade rookie to whoever is slightly cheaper premo who just got 140 and is guaranteed a good price rise so you can get swan the following week.
You would never have wasted a trade like this before. Still getting benefit of upgrade for that week and gaining extra cash in the trade also.
I know it's a hypothetical but I don't think it's an unreasonable scenario.
Your rookie is vested and scores a 20 seriously halting his price rises.
Downgrade said rookie to another promising rookie.
This leaves you cash for another rookie upgrade but you can't quite afford Swan. In the past you might wait a week to get in swanny with another downgrade but one you upgrade rookie to whoever is slightly cheaper premo who just got 140 and is guaranteed a good price rise so you can get swan the following week.
You would never have wasted a trade like this before. Still getting benefit of upgrade for that week and gaining extra cash in the trade also.
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It will create some interesting trade scenarios.... Not sure how best to handle it yet...
Haven't read this thread and not sure it really fits into the OP post however I'll say picking unique players because they're unique is one of the biggest mistakes I see people making year in year out. It's something I've harped on about elsewhere but whether they're unique or not should play no bearing whatsoever when you're picking your starting side (and not a great deal during the season for that matter either (apart from the rare exception)) but something I often see as a 'positive' for why someone is picking player x.
Have a look at the 'bigfooty' sides of the past few years and you'll notice they're the sides that often do well as there are reasons as to why some players are so popular and why some are unique.
I should also mention, this by no means should put you off unique players, but the reasons behinds selecting them should be because you see multiple reasons for improvement and not because hardly anyone has this player in their side and if this pick pays off you'll be ahead of the pack (finding out a player in your side is unique should just be an added bonus if the selection turns out to be a good one). The same applies for not selecting a player like Goddard because 'everyone' will have them and if he doesn't start well you'll be off to a great start since you'll be one of the select few that doesn't have him. Most of the time this will backfire in your face and in the long run it's often better to follow the pack and have someone like Goddard end up being a poor pick with the majority of the players then miss out and being in the few % that don't have him.
TL;DR - Pick/avoid players based on your reasonings for such and not due to popularity.
Have a look at the 'bigfooty' sides of the past few years and you'll notice they're the sides that often do well as there are reasons as to why some players are so popular and why some are unique.
I should also mention, this by no means should put you off unique players, but the reasons behinds selecting them should be because you see multiple reasons for improvement and not because hardly anyone has this player in their side and if this pick pays off you'll be ahead of the pack (finding out a player in your side is unique should just be an added bonus if the selection turns out to be a good one). The same applies for not selecting a player like Goddard because 'everyone' will have them and if he doesn't start well you'll be off to a great start since you'll be one of the select few that doesn't have him. Most of the time this will backfire in your face and in the long run it's often better to follow the pack and have someone like Goddard end up being a poor pick with the majority of the players then miss out and being in the few % that don't have him.
TL;DR - Pick/avoid players based on your reasonings for such and not due to popularity.
I think durability is still very important even with more trades. As will DPP.
The reason for durability is simple, it allows you to continue to upgrade your team quicker as you aren't swapping and changing your premiums around.
Yes maybe take a risk on one or two guys who have bad injury history but don't fill your team with them just because they are underpriced. Yes you have more trades but generally most ppl used all their trades from round 5-15 anyway so the principals remain the same.
DPP are even more important now that you have more trades, mainly due to their flexibility in trading. Making the trade you want is a fair bit easier when you can actually trade Fwds for backs and vice versa.
I'm a big fan of guns and rookies with one or two midpricers but with the extra few trades from rounds 1-2 I think ill be punting on a few midpricers and if they come off great, if they don't ill trade in the best rookie I missed and the best premium.
Dream team is a simple game, it's made far more complex by some people (prob myself included). Downgrade, upgrade and pick the best scorers.
I finished 490thish last year and had absolutely no luck, wasted about 7 trades on my rucks and still finished with a very complete side. Looking fwd to starting again.
The reason for durability is simple, it allows you to continue to upgrade your team quicker as you aren't swapping and changing your premiums around.
Yes maybe take a risk on one or two guys who have bad injury history but don't fill your team with them just because they are underpriced. Yes you have more trades but generally most ppl used all their trades from round 5-15 anyway so the principals remain the same.
DPP are even more important now that you have more trades, mainly due to their flexibility in trading. Making the trade you want is a fair bit easier when you can actually trade Fwds for backs and vice versa.
I'm a big fan of guns and rookies with one or two midpricers but with the extra few trades from rounds 1-2 I think ill be punting on a few midpricers and if they come off great, if they don't ill trade in the best rookie I missed and the best premium.
Dream team is a simple game, it's made far more complex by some people (prob myself included). Downgrade, upgrade and pick the best scorers.
I finished 490thish last year and had absolutely no luck, wasted about 7 trades on my rucks and still finished with a very complete side. Looking fwd to starting again.
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when making selections I value the articles that directly quote the player or coach on what they have been doing and what they are planning on doing as opposed to someone else's (third party) opinion on what they think is going to happen, and i seek confirmation of all members of my squad.
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I agree with this massivily and something ive been thinking about. As soon as the new rules came out i was like bang im picking guys with high risk/high reward.
Then i thought about it a bit longer and saw that the people who will do best are those that can get there team finished AQAP. The only way this will happen is if you pick enough durable types along with some luck and dont get to many injuries and are able to upgrade.
The big question for me will be
Will people chase points or chase the finishing side completion AQAP
Like if someone has a 2 week injury during the upgrade/downgrade process. Will you still upgrade/downgrade with that player not included and just have a bench player cover his scores or will you sideways trade him and have one less premium and be behind one week of others who upgraded/downgraded.
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I think that the bulk of trades made this year will be very similar. ie each week there will be a couple of standout, obvious trades. Trades forced by injury will be a big nuisance as usual.
I'll be chasing points I reckon, at the end of the day its the score that counts, and the leaders are notoriously hard to chase down.
I'll be chasing points I reckon, at the end of the day its the score that counts, and the leaders are notoriously hard to chase down.
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I think you will be better to upgrade downgrade and just cover the injury with a bench player. At the end of the day you will still have the same amount of premium for that particular week as the ones that sideways traded because you would have the extra premium through upgrading/downgrading, however one will be sitting on the pine through injury.
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Agreed. How many people were burnt trading out Swan, Ablett, Waters, Scotland last year - when they either took longer or shorter periods in coming back from injury... Two trades every week lets you go close to having a full side, unless ASADA style carnage takes out half your side....
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I actually gave this some serious thought and I now believe that it will be an inevitable reality. This investigation will go on for months and the results will be far worse for DT coaches than the Didak/Shaw fiasco from a few years ago.
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I think that'll be the least of our problems if it happens....
I'm leaning towards the thought that ASADA and WADA will be determining the penalties (although it's still not crystal clear) and the AFL is effectively powerless. If this is true and it's not just bullshit and innuendo, then it's going to be ugly....
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ASADA/WADA ban players/coaches for taking illegal drugs
The AFL gives further ramifications after that eg: loss of premiership points, fines ect
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The penalties are clear, players are banned for 2 years if found guilty.
http://www.asada.gov.au/rules_and_violations/sanctions.html
This penalty is reduced to 6 months if the players come forward of their own accord and confess. This has been promoted through the media but I have not seen an official statement from ASADA.
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Cheers.
I can see a situation where the AFL tries to make a deal with WADA/ASADA for the integrity of the competition, to shorten bans and have them implement massive fines and loss of senior positions at clubs, rather than targetting the individual players.
Can you imagine if Dons, Pies, Hawks and a few others suddenly find themselves playing GWS equivalent age squads.... ??
Then there are the salary cap and other implications to consider. If a club loses a dozen players, there is no way they can stay under the cap....
But I am slightly digressing from the thread....
The ACC report indicates that players are in the gun for ilicit drug usage. The fact that phone taps have been used to gather intelligence would be making some players very nervous.
A strategy I am mulling over is to put together a "cleanskin" squad that are not recognised "party-boys"...
A strategy I am mulling over is to put together a "cleanskin" squad that are not recognised "party-boys"...
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It all depends on timing, and also on the response from the games administrators... They may choose to do nothing and accept the carnage... I've seen fantasy football games award wildcards to all players based upon massive screwups, so I'm not in panic mode just yet...
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