Prediction Ben Kennedy v J.Howe

[YeahNahYeahNah]

I believe Kennedy can become a really solid player if he is allowed to consistently play FULL AFL games.

Howe has obviously had the better career thus far but I think Kennedy will catch him.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Not sure about others here, but everytime i see an oompah loompah face I'm reminded of Bob Murphy. After a good week in a solarium.

Ha ha that's brilliant.
Yes, it sure does.
Love it
So clever, I wish I thought of it. (Wasted on Ben ken)

 

[Rusty22]

haha kennedy cant kick anymore than 35 metres..

 

[doodles98]

Not sure about others here, but everytime i see an oompah loompah face I'm reminded of Bob Murphy. After a good week in a solarium.

yeah now you mention it I can see a lot of oompa in Bob and vice versa

 

[doodles98]

haha kennedy cant kick anymore than 35 metres..

Tony Shaw says Hi!

 

[Rusty22]

Tony Shaw says Hi!

tony shaw could do other things

 

[doodles98]

tony shaw could do other things

that he could

 

[Apex36]

we'dve gotten a second rounder for Kennedy.

Former pick 19 (so only first round because of a compromised draft) who has done absolutely nothing noteworthy in 3 years on an AFL list. To think we would have gotten a second for him is ridiculously optimistic at best, but closer to completely unrealistic imo.

Point is.. we gave up both Seedsman and Kennedy for Howe and pick 48 or something... it wasn't Kennedy for Howe.. this thread needs to include the Seed to make any sense.

This I agree on. I felt that we overpaid for Howe too, because in reality he was only worth a second. At the end of the day though, we traded out two depth players for a potential best 22. It was worth the risk, and hopefully it pays off.

 

[doodles98]

Former pick 19 (so only first round because of a compromised draft) who has done absolutely nothing noteworthy in 3 years on an AFL list. To think we would have gotten a second for him is ridiculously optimistic at best, but closer to completely unrealistic imo.

This I agree on. I felt that we overpaid for Howe too, because in reality he was only worth a second. At the end of the day though, we traded out two depth players for a potential best 22. It was worth the risk, and hopefully it pays off.

I was ok with Kennedy for Howe and say our third rounder but to throw Seedsman in as well was way overs if you ask me. You have to factor in potential for development and years of footy ahead of them. I expect Howe to be good for us. I rate him and I'm happy he's on the list but I think we shafted ourselves a bit in that trade. Seedsman could be an absolute star if he clicks.

 

[Royal Flash]

I only watched ten minutes of that game, and I saw Kennedy have a shot from 35 metres almost directly in front and miss...

His kicking must have improved if he made the distance.

 

[pablo disco bar]

So we got howe and crocker for kennedy and seedsman?

 

[jmac70]

Who will have the better career? Just watching some nab cup and saw Ben Kennedy slotting one on the run for Melbourne. Who will have the career?

Howe has already played 100 games in case you forgot.

 

[Buckley is my hero]

I was ok with Kennedy for Howe and say our third rounder but to throw Seedsman in as well was way overs if you ask me. You have to factor in potential for development and years of footy ahead of them. I expect Howe to be good for us. I rate him and I'm happy he's on the list but I think we shafted ourselves a bit in that trade. Seedsman could be an absolute star if he clicks.

Didn't shaft ourselves. Kennedy had issues with his size, pace and kicking, while Seedsman had issues with his mindset. If not traded, at some point they would have both been delisted, so whatever we got for them was overs as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Greening Magic]

Kennedy nowhere near best 22, Seeds slipped into 20-30 range.
Howe could end up playing unique role or give us absolutely nothing.
Worth a shot ................ expecting nothing.

 

[Frankie23]

Who will have the better career? Just watching some nab cup and saw Ben Kennedy fail to make the distance from 30 meters out on the run. Who will have the career?

EFA

 

[1892]

So we got howe and crocker for kennedy and seedsman?

The pick we got bounced around a bit, so it depends on how you view the GWS pick swap. I'd say Wills.

Seedsman + Kennedy -> Howe + 68
Freeman + 68 -> 2nd round + 63
34, 53 + 63 -> 27 (Sier), 66 (Phillips), 77 (Wills) + 84 (not used, we also held our original pick 83 (Crocker))

 

[Pie eyed]

Ben's last known Collingwood photo, at training doing a drill

Verdict: too short, go elsewhere

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I miss training with gold balls in the tan and white stripes.....

 

[legendstatus]

Howe by so fat it ain't funny! This guy is elite when on, has been in the past can't see why he won't again.


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[DIDAIC0S]

Former pick 19 (so only first round because of a compromised draft) who has done absolutely nothing noteworthy in 3 years on an AFL list. To think we would have gotten a second for him is ridiculously optimistic at best, but closer to completely unrealistic imo.

This I agree on. I felt that we overpaid for Howe too, because in reality he was only worth a second. At the end of the day though, we traded out two depth players for a potential best 22. It was worth the risk, and hopefully it pays off.

Two potential best 22 is probably pretty generous given our midfield stocks this year.
Neither were reliable kicks ether. Really we lost no one of note and gained potentially 3 best 22 players in the trade period.


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[Old Spice]

Former pick 19 (so only first round because of a compromised draft) who has done absolutely nothing noteworthy in 3 years on an AFL list. To think we would have gotten a second for him is ridiculously optimistic at best, but closer to completely unrealistic imo.

This I agree on. I felt that we overpaid for Howe too, because in reality he was only worth a second. At the end of the day though, we traded out two depth players for a potential best 22. It was worth the risk, and hopefully it pays off.

Once a mediocre player decides to leave for more opportunity in a sh*t draft then you may as well take an established player in return.

 

[THATSGOLD]

haha kennedy cant kick anymore than 35 metres..

Could turn in to a handy forward pocket. Something we could do with.

 

[THATSGOLD]

Once a mediocre player decides to leave for more opportunity in a sh*t draft then you may as well take an established player in return.

So Kennedy Grundy Broomhead Ramsay was a shit draft?

 

[MeisterBot]

I want to know what the hell happened to Kennedy's kicking. He's a veritable ball butcher now, but pre-draft it was universally accepted that he had a very sharp 50-55m boot. May not have had Mitchell level control over his kicking but he had neat disposal and some decent toe. Probably the same level as Ramsay or something. Him failing to get the distance or shanking 35m kicks wasn't something that happened to the 17 year old Kennedy.

He also doesn't look like he has the same burst speed that allowed him to accelerate from stoppages as a junior anymore, either.

Were his leg issues in his first two years really that bad?

I don't rate Howe, much less after his frisbee incident. So nil all draw works for me.

 

[Old Spice]

So Kennedy Grundy Broomhead Ramsay was a shit draft?

We picked the eyes out of it as best we could.

But we all know that some players who are picked later in the draft are better than earlier picks. Kennedy was picked earlier in his draft than Howe was in his year but the latter is clearly a better player.

What kind of argument are you trying to construct?

 

[MeisterBot]

So Kennedy Grundy Broomhead Ramsay was a shit draft?

Shit draft meaning 2015, where it was known not to have very good depth beyond the first round. So going after the established players is a better play. Which is what Hine did, went after Howe, Aish and Treloar. I can't predict the future on whether it was the right decision but I'm very happy about Treloar and I was wrong about Crisp/Varcoe last season so I'll try and hold my tongue on Aish/Howe until both strt playing games.

As for the 2012 crop, I'm confident Grundy, Broomhead and Ramsay will all be best 22 on the list with Grundy and Broomhead having potential as best 10 on the list with some luck. So I'm happy with that draft.