Bendigo FL discussion 2024

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ROOTA#6 said:
The Central Murray was an early adopter or trial of the points system when I was still playing.

The aim as it was explained to us was to deter the so called stronger clubs from taking the best players from the lower ranked clubs in the same competition

It has since morphed into something that it was never proposed to be
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It’s a failure there as well, Castlemaine has been routinely pillaged by all the strong clubs.

Why? Because the points discounts allow them the space to carry the extra points stolen players bring.

The whole system only works if strong clubs are tight on points.
 
Forest St End said:
It’s a failure there as well, Castlemaine has been routinely pillaged by all the strong clubs.

Why? Because the points discounts allow them the space to carry the extra points stolen players bring.

The whole system only works if strong clubs are tight on points.
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The points system is a spectacular failure. it has basically seen strong sides at the time of its implementation win multiple flags and keep the weak sides on their knees. Clubs have disappeared, volunteers have walked away and clubs have lost games because of it. The points system dominates every forum and that alone indicates that it is a dogs breakfast.The Bendigo league is on its knees and its current position was expedited by this flawed system!
 
WA has had player points in most leagues for almost a decade now and there is nowhere near as much angst about it as in Victoria.

The key factor is that a player's points don't drop in the second season at the same club (it's usually the fourth). If you recruit a 3 or 4, they should be that for the first three seasons. If they stay for a fourth, that is loyalty and then they can lose a point per season at that club until they become a 1.

In Victoria, clubs can load up on four three pointers one year and the next year they regain four points when they are all discounted to 2's and the club goes out and gets a four pointer. I am sure that was probably not the original intention but somehow it has.

You would see more equalisation if players didn't get discounts after one season of "loyalty".
 

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Forest St End said:
It’s a failure there as well, Castlemaine has been routinely pillaged by all the strong clubs.

Why? Because the points discounts allow them the space to carry the extra points stolen players bring.

The whole system only works if strong clubs are tight on points.
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Along with Castlemaine, Maryborough has really suffered at the hands of three competitions, namely Bendigo, Ballarat and the MCDFNL. The club has spent significant time and effort in the area of development only to see ‘home grown’ players leave for considerably greater offers than what the club could afford. Some being absolutely ridiculous and including a range of perks that cannot be tracked.

The system has been broken for some time now with the stronger clubs completely taking advantage of the situation. They don’t say there is a problem as they have generally mastered the system and when the weaker clubs speak out, they are just told to keep trying to develop their own and recruit.
 
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MortlockWatcher said:
WA has had player points in most leagues for almost a decade now and there is nowhere near as much angst about it as in Victoria.

The key factor is that a player's points don't drop in the second season at the same club (it's usually the fourth). If you recruit a 3 or 4, they should be that for the first three seasons. If they stay for a fourth, that is loyalty and then they can lose a point per season at that club until they become a 1.

In Victoria, clubs can load up on four three pointers one year and the next year they regain four points when they are all discounted to 2's and the club goes out and gets a four pointer. I am sure that was probably not the original intention but somehow it has.

You would see more equalisation if players didn't get discounts after one season of "loyalty".
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Going on above I think the problem in Victoria is that getting 3-4 years out of a recruit and getting them to commit to driving, social functions, and in some part training is a long term path alot are not willing to take. 4 years of driving from Melbourne to Bendigo ( I know they would be renumerated) probably isn't what recruits are thinking when they sign up. Pretty hard at recruiting meetings to say to someone we see you as a long term 5plus year player here. Mindset on most blokes is they would run after that meeting as not what they are thinking.
Hence the movement.
 
localfootyguru said:
Along with Castlemaine, Maryborough has really suffered at the hands of three competitions, namely Bendigo, Ballarat and the MCDFNL. The club has spent significant time and effort in the area of development only to see ‘home grown’ players leave for considerably greater offers than what the club could afford. Some being absolutely ridiculous and including a range of perks that cannot be tracked.

The system has been broken for some time now with the stronger clubs completely taking advantage of the situation. They don’t say there is a problem as they have generally mastered the system and when the weaker clubs speak out, they are just told to keep trying to develop their own and recruit.
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Great summary.

Build a system where clubs with large junior populations have a huge advantage, and combine that with making it the geographic centre of the pathway system.

I’m not generally a conspiracy theorist but surely not even the muppets at AFL VIC are dumb enough to implement this stuff by accident.
 
I'd scrap the tac cup and go back to zoning, but instead of an area, each afl club has a major league club instead, each major league has 2 minor league clubs affiliated with them. So for example Carlton could have Maryborough because of the nicholls link, get rid of the draft and have all 18 afl clubs have zones snd clubs throughout Australia.



What you'd find is more work done by clubs into grass roots footy, they'd have a development officer/coach of every club in the state
 

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Weekly Times website got story on square with headline alluding to more turmoil. Maybe persistent rumours of president falling on sword for coach sacking have proven true after all.
 

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