Division footy will never work in country footy. Where's mitiamo find netballers and junior footballers if they make the top division
Plenty of good points though
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Plenty of good points though
The only way div footy will work is if two major leagues merge and have two divisions
It would be bendigo Ballarat merge into one league with 2 divisions.
Ovens and murray and gv merge
Geelong and bellarine
West Gippsland and Gippsland.
Other clubs surrounding can enter the 3 super leagues.
No tac cup. Have under 23 interleague between the 3 and metro leagues. Have a draft from the pios region for the best 17 year olds to enter from the clubs not in superleagues where the bottom club in top division gets the first pick.
Blow up the points system and have a requirement of 10 locals per team
Ovens and murray and gv merge
Geelong and bellarine
West Gippsland and Gippsland.
Other clubs surrounding can enter the 3 super leagues.
No tac cup. Have under 23 interleague between the 3 and metro leagues. Have a draft from the pios region for the best 17 year olds to enter from the clubs not in superleagues where the bottom club in top division gets the first pick.
Blow up the points system and have a requirement of 10 locals per team
I can see two or three of those four being possibilities:
- WG have more interest in being a top-tier while Ellinbank acts as their Div 2 (Ellinbank have no interest in that though).
- Geelong and Bellarine I believe is set to start a multi-divisional setup in 2025 or 2026.
- I could see O&M and GV working.
- Ballarat league clubs have no interest in being involved with Bendigo. They'd probably look to Ararat and Stawell if they wanted to increase their numbers.
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That’s somewhat arse about thinking. Merging major & district leagues in a geographic area allows clubs, whole clubs, to find their level and be competitive, without excessive travel. I see on these boards laments about massive inequalities within leagues. This could help with this.
Yep but only marong and maiden gully could possibly ever go up from the 3 district leagues around bendigo. no other district side could and itd ruin the club.
If you merged two major leagues into the teams that played finals and missed out it would be far more even comp and there wouldnt be that much additional travel.
Oh come on Roota...we have the proposed Echuca v Broadford clash lol
I’m not sure how mandating 10 locals for clubs that already have issues with numbers will help… some areas just don’t have many people in the right age bracket who are good footballers.
That idea will kill off more clubs than it helps.
Most clubs who struggle do so because of a lack of decent juniors.
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Which is why it’s a high bar to be promoted, and the choice is there to take the opportunity or not. The divisions create the even comps.
And as for extra travel, it’s not just the clubs that travel, it’s the umpires also. A larger geographic area would require them to travel more, and be less likely to be able to double up in Major League U19s in the morning and then District Seniors in the afternoon, therefore requiring more umpires, or having District Leagues rely on Clubbies even for seniors.
But the whole point of relegation and promotion is one club goes down and one club goes up.
So this year it would be maryborough going down and marong or white hills going up, which could work. But you can't Mt pleasant, mitiamo, newbridge, serp, colbo, locky etc go up it would ruin the club for a year.
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Sorry to go away from Bendigo chat a bit but on this point, if this is to be the case they definitely need a couple of sides from Pakenham/Officer/Beaconsfield/Berwick area or Wonthaggi/Leongatha to move across which I'm not sure how that'll be received by existing clubs or those two clubs - WG fans/admin/media seem to think they're comparable to Gippy league but the bottom end of WG is so far away from it I don't think they can be a major competition at the moment. I don't think they're comparable competition at the moment on field or off it (admin, streaming etc. - though the commentary & radio coverage is very good along with some of the facilities), despite GL being maybe at its lowest standard on field for a few years. Phillip Island, Inverloch, Tooradin, NNG, Cora Lynn - sure, potentially top div quality clubs. Maybe Koo Wee if they can build a bit on what they have. Cora Lynn have no juniors either. Plenty of work to do if it's going to get out of discussion level.
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But then would those clubs meet the bar for promotion? And if they do, they can choose to stay at the level they are or go up.
Modification to the previous promotion / relegation provisions:
If the last placed club in the higher division wants to be relegated, and the first placed club in the lower division does not want to be promoted, promotion could be offered to the second placed club.
That’s why there’s relatively tight timeframes to make decisions, in order to inform other affected clubs and let them plan accordingly before the finals are completed.
Seymour - Echuca 15klms shorter
Moama - Mulwala 6klms shorter .
I hope broadford have lights, the game won't finish till 7 with all the time on from goals
Appreciate all views and opinions re Broadfords entry however the constant put down of them is disappointing.
I totally agree the Bendigo comp is not a good suit for club nor league.
The problem is I think the comp they should be is the Kyabram league.However those clubs dont see nor care about the pickle they are in.Sadly many clubs and people only care about their own club and dont care that young men and women in Broadford have no options.
Yes I know poor decisions have been made in the past but the current workers are busting their ar$e to get a club up and running and im sure you all agree a town is better with netball and footy club.
Many wonderful families and people have and are still involved there and deserve better.
I reckon Afl vic needs the step in and get them in Kdfl.
Sorry for the rant but they need solutions not a constant battering .
Any suggestions?
Btw im in now way involved just respect many people at. Broadford.
I totally agree the Bendigo comp is not a good suit for club nor league.
The problem is I think the comp they should be is the Kyabram league.However those clubs dont see nor care about the pickle they are in.Sadly many clubs and people only care about their own club and dont care that young men and women in Broadford have no options.
Yes I know poor decisions have been made in the past but the current workers are busting their ar$e to get a club up and running and im sure you all agree a town is better with netball and footy club.
Many wonderful families and people have and are still involved there and deserve better.
I reckon Afl vic needs the step in and get them in Kdfl.
Sorry for the rant but they need solutions not a constant battering .
Any suggestions?
Btw im in now way involved just respect many people at. Broadford.
Personally, I believe that the Riddell league is a better fit for their level and geography but unfortunately the past has come back to haunt them.
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They burn their bridges wherever they go. Always the victim.
Bendigo League will just be another case of wearing out their welcome real quick
You wouldn’t get one Senior club voting to have them back.
RDFL has moved past them and their not a good fit anywhere with their culture and history.
Sorry, but no one is putting them down! It is the most bizarre concept I have ever heard of to be part of the BFNL! Yes, I agree with the KDFL. There may be people busting their butts but I can assure you that people are working huge hours at already-established clubs. Not once have you mentioned the people involved in the Maryborough football club who did not get anywhere as much support as the proposed Broadford Football Club. The Broadford Football Club will need at least 80-90 footballers to fill 3 teams. I bet my bottom dollar that if they go on a recruiting spree to get these players they will not offer one bit of sympathy to the clubs they affect. To get that number of players they will need to recruit from outside of Broadford.
Well said ringo.
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Whilst I appreciate your view barfly, the club has a long history of burning bridges in every league they enter. I heard the same story when they wanted to enter the Outer East league in how the league was going to be their 'forever home'.
The issues resulted with the club struggling on and off field and the same rhetoric was rolled out with the club saying they needed to look elsewhere.
I am just hearing the same message every time and why the BFNL has fallen for this sob story is beyond me. The BFNL have just inherited another issue to add to all the other problems facing the game in the region. Broadford belong either in the Riddell League (not going to happen due to burning bridges there) or the lower divisions of the Northern FNL which is appropriate for their level of ability.
My club in Maryborough FNC unsuccessfully busted their boiler to stay afloat and whilst we were supported by many, the lack of support from key players such as AFL Victoria really miffed all concerned. Then AFL Victoria get involved in this charade rather than trying to help a club that is over 150 years old and plays a significant role in our community.
Can you imagine what I am currently thinking when I read and hear about this 'pie in the sky' proposal.
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Theyd get belted by Lancefeild if they were in RDFL lol. Won't have to worry about them until 2026 anyway.
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Has to be one of the silliest things g's I've heard, the league welcomes them in but they won't play yet any grade. How do they expect to find all these players?
Or 16 players from 1 team in the pioneers preseason squad,
