Opinion Best 22 for 2022

[Blue__Balls]

O'Brien - what do ppl like about a player who is weak in the contest & frightened to body tackle...who is incredibly ordinary in all components/attributes except kicking

Can run all day, and kicks it better than anyone on the list.

I'd argue he's not weak in the contest, or at least, no more than any 4th year winger. Other outside types from the same draft have the same issue - Stephenson, Coffield, Richards, Powell, Pettruccelle - they're all brushed off easily by bigger bodies. Put him on the wing and it's a non-issue. Sure, it might mean he has an unfavourable matchup here and there, but then it's on the guys getting the ball to him to do that to his advantage, and on LOB himself to use his 1-wood (massive engine) to limit the number of purely physical contests he's forced into.

The tackling issue is solely on the coaches. Yeah, the players should just tackle, but if they're corralling instead then the responsibility lies with the coaches to stamp that shit out straight away. Instead, it was a widespread issue across a significant portion of our playing list. If he's still doing it 3-4 rounds into next season then he's in my bad books, but I'm inclined to give him a chance in a system that puts more specific emphasis on tackling pressure.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Runs all day and his attack on the ball has improved.

His kicking ability is just about the best at the club. He just needs continuity at afl level and on the wing specifically.

isnt the point of a winger to be kicking the ball while not under horrendous pressure on a regular basis

 

[The Bighouse]

I like his kicking. Pretty simple. Kicks that good are rare as hell.

Especially on our list for too long.

 

[CaptainCharisma]

I will have my crack now that our trade work seems to be done.

B - Kemp Jones Stocker
HB - Williams Weitering Saad
C - Walsh Cripps Docherty
HF - Martin C Curnow Cuningham
F - Fisher McKay McGovern
R - DeKoning Cerra Hewett
I - Dow O'Brien Silvagni Newman

My side is dependent on some players making full recoveries in 2022 (Doc, Cuners) and others living up to unfulfilled potential (McGovern, Dow, O'Brien).
Also tried to go with the standard balance on the bench - 2 mid, 1 forward, 1 defender.

 

[jezzatigerbrent]

I will have my crack now that our trade work seems to be done.

B - Kemp Jones Stocker
HB - Williams Weitering Saad
C - Walsh Cripps Docherty
HF - Martin C Curnow Cuningham
F - Fisher McKay McGovern
R - DeKoning Cerra Hewett
I - Dow O'Brien Silvagni Newman

My side is dependent on some players making full recoveries in 2022 (Doc, Cuners) and others living up to unfulfilled potential (McGovern, Dow, O'Brien).
Also tried to go with the standard balance on the bench - 2 mid, 1 forward, 1 defender.

all great apart from Owies [ in ] for > O'Brien [out]

 

[SurreyBlue]

IMO it should be something like this, but as people know, I hold some players in higher regard than others. Oh well.

*Docherty\Plowman Young Jones\Marchbank*
Stocker Weitering Saad
Cerra Cripps O’Brien
Williams CCurnow Fisher
JSoS McKay Martin
DeKoning Hewett Walsh
Kemp\Carroll Kennedy\Setterfield Dow\Cuningham Williamson\Newman

Young has been recruited to play KP back and allow Jones 3rd man. I like Marchbank in that role.
Bench I like to be more specific - wingers, inside mids rotation, midfield run and then extra defender.
I think Durdin is the one that will pushing hard for a small forward role but the 3 players I have forward are very talented and skilled, who I expect big years coming up.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Pittonet starting ruck with TDK forward line but Young’s inclusion and Kemp from the bench, should give us cover to play one ruck!

 

[Red Bull]

Saad Young Jones
Williams Weitering Kemp
Cerra Cripps Philp
Martin Curnow Honey
Fisher McKay Silvagni

TDK Walsh Dow

Stocker Hewett Cuningham Durdin


Boyd McDonald Plowman
Williamson Marchbank Newman
O’Brien Carroll Cottrell
Newnes McGovern Fogarty
Owies Kennedy Mirkov

Pittonet Setterfield Curnow

Parks draft draft draft

*Docherty

Reckon we’ll look to further strengthen our KPP stocks through the draft.

If Young can take the opposition key forward, Jones would rule the skies as the floating intercept defender.

Really keen to unleash Kemp Philp Honey and Durdin, with Carroll next in line …

 

[Blue Doormat]

FB Newman Jones Saad
HB Williams Weitering Plowman
C Cerra Cripps Walsh
HF Fisher C Curnow Silvagni
FF Honey McKay McGovern
R De Koning Stocker Hewett
I Kennedy Kemp Dow Cuningham

Assumed injured: Docherty Marchbank

Touch points:
1. I want Stocker in the middle. He os composed with ball in hand, he’s a beautiful kick and he is tough.
2. Cripps as a centre man. Needs to be what he was. A big-beast extractor. Let’s not concentrate on him being everything to everyone.
3. On bench are mids but Kemp can go back and Kennedy can go forward and are both strong in the air.
4.We have no back up for TDK. Silvagni/Jones for short stints? I don’t have a solution but can’t see Pittonet in this team.

 

[spry]

I’ve gone with youth, I’ve also tried to place players based on their position but also based on the ‘powerful brand’ we’ll play. So if their was a borderline call between say fish and durdin. The one who embodies the brand more won out. I have high hopes for obrien. In this case his potential in the position beat his weakness in the contest. Delivery inside 50 is prime.
Young to pinch hit in the ruck. Would be interesting having a backman and a forward playing ruck . Could be some good structural things we could do with both of them on the ground. Particularly with young as an intercepter. But I digress. The team:



Plowman Weitering Stocker
Williams Jones Saad



Cerra Cripps Obrien
Dekoning Walsh Hewett



Martin Charlie Honey
Durdin Harry Jsos



Young Dow Kemp Fog



Emergency : Kennedy Newman Ed pittonet



Depth: cunners Fish setterfield Newnes

 

[SBYM]

I'm just not sure if Cerra is best 22.

Thoughts?

 

[GoBlues!]

I’ve been thinking recently that maybe part of getting Williams and saad was a concern about doc’s health.

More likely Saad to replace Simmo retiring, and Williams was meant to play more in the midfield.

 

[macky99]

I'm just not sure if Cerra is best 22.

Thoughts?

ls that a serious question?

 

[spry]

Can run all day, and kicks it better than anyone on the list.

I'd argue he's not weak in the contest, or at least, no more than any 4th year winger. Other outside types from the same draft have the same issue - Stephenson, Coffield, Richards, Powell, Pettruccelle - they're all brushed off easily by bigger bodies. Put him on the wing and it's a non-issue. Sure, it might mean he has an unfavourable matchup here and there, but then it's on the guys getting the ball to him to do that to his advantage, and on LOB himself to use his 1-wood (massive engine) to limit the number of purely physical contests he's forced into.

The tackling issue is solely on the coaches. Yeah, the players should just tackle, but if they're corralling instead then the responsibility lies with the coaches to stamp that sh*t out straight away. Instead, it was a widespread issue across a significant portion of our playing list. If he's still doing it 3-4 rounds into next season then he's in my bad books, but I'm inclined to give him a chance in a system that puts more specific emphasis on tackling pressure.

While my favourite thing is a good tackle I think this approach is player based. Lob will never be a tackling machine. His other strengths compensate for this. So I don’t mind him corralling. I’d prefer an affected disposal over a broken tackle

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

B: McGovern Jones Stocker
HB: Williams Weitering Saad
C: Kemp Cripps O'Brien
HF: Silvagni C Curnow Cuningham
F: Honey McKay Durdin
R: De Koning Cerra Walsh
I: Hewett E Curnow Martin Kennedy

Durdin gets first crack at small pressure forward but Owies close behind.

O'Brien first crack at wing, Williamson to replace him in a more defensive-orientated wing role if things aren't working.

McGovern to use his marking and long accurate kicking as third defensive tall in place of Plowman.

Silvagni relief ruck as a way of getting him on the ball and into the game, without rotating out an actual midfielder.

Still have a bench spot for E Curnow, use his gut-running in either a defensive forward role or to tag if things are going pear-shaped.

Kennedy has final midfield spot but Dow close behind.

 

[ETET]

Can run all day, and kicks it better than anyone on the list.

I'd argue he's not weak in the contest, or at least, no more than any 4th year winger. Other outside types from the same draft have the same issue - Stephenson, Coffield, Richards, Powell, Pettruccelle - they're all brushed off easily by bigger bodies. Put him on the wing and it's a non-issue. Sure, it might mean he has an unfavourable matchup here and there, but then it's on the guys getting the ball to him to do that to his advantage, and on LOB himself to use his 1-wood (massive engine) to limit the number of purely physical contests he's forced into.

The tackling issue is solely on the coaches. Yeah, the players should just tackle, but if they're corralling instead then the responsibility lies with the coaches to stamp that sh*t out straight away. Instead, it was a widespread issue across a significant portion of our playing list. If he's still doing it 3-4 rounds into next season then he's in my bad books, but I'm inclined to give him a chance in a system that puts more specific emphasis on tackling pressure.

I hear you however when you look at the top teams, all players compete in the contest.

Tigers, Dees, Dogs, are a great examples that require that all players across the park must be able to compete, make it difficult and hard for the opposition to get the ball when in dispute. Mackintosh, Smith, Langdon.. etc..

LOB must learn to compete better when the ball is in dispute it is a key part of the game.

 

[Shambolic]

I hear your ETET re: O'Brien. I too don't see that strength and I think this argument that other wingers are weak therefore it's ok for LOB to not be great is a crappy one. To play AFL you need strong attributes and yes LOB can run all day and yes he had a game with 4 I50 deliveries which were brilliant, but his flapping annoys me. Blaming coaches for a 22yo not being able to tackle.... oh dear. he is someone opposition coaches just isolate 1 on 1 and they win more often than not.

But its a new Blues outfit and Voss was a champ and hard. LOB will have 2022 on the list and all the very best of luck with strong structures and high expectations, we hope. No doubt he has some skill and can run allday (not fast mind you) so he has some attributes we need.

 

[SurreyBlue]

I hear your ETET re: O'Brien. I too don't see that strength and I think this argument that other wingers are weak therefore it's ok for LOB to not be great is a crappy one. To play AFL you need strong attributes and yes LOB can run all day and yes he had a game with 4 I50 deliveries which were brilliant, but his flapping annoys me. Blaming coaches for a 22yo not being able to tackle.... oh dear. he is someone opposition coaches just isolate 1 on 1 and they win more often than not.

But its a new Blues outfit and Voss was a champ and hard. LOB will have 2022 on the list and all the very best of luck with strong structures and high expectations, we hope. No doubt he has some skill and can run allday (not fast mind you) so he has some attributes we need.

The complete playing list, not just one or two, need to add the ‘never say die or win the next contested ball at all costs’ or ‘defensive mindset / winners mentality’ attitude.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

The complete playing list, not just one or two, need to add the ‘never say die or win the next contested ball at all costs’ or ‘defensive mindset / winners mentality’ attitude.

This. If the new regime are able to instil this, the result will be spectacular imo.

Critiquing players for individual flaws etc is fun, but it's all between the ears with this group. If they finally click mentally, the floodgates will open.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Full Backs	Stocker​	Weitering​	Plowman​
Half Backs	Saad​	Jones​	Williams​
Rucks/Centres	Cerra​	Cripps​	Walsh​
Rucks/Centres	Pittonet​	Hewett​	E.Curnow​
Half Forwards	Martin​	C.Curnow​	Cuningham​
Full Forwards	Fisher​	McKay​	McGovern​
Interchange/Sub	Kennedy DeKoning​	Dow Newman​	Sub: Kemp

I'd like to see us phase E.Curnow out over the season and move Dow into that role. Honey to come into the side. Not sure where to put Silvagni

Biggest concern with the best 22 is that it looks slow on paper

 

[jezzatigerbrent]

Saad Young Jones
Williams Weitering Kemp
Cerra Cripps Philp
Martin Curnow Honey
Fisher McKay Silvagni

TDK Walsh Dow

Stocker Hewett Cuningham Durdin


If Young can take the opposition key forward, Jones would rule the skies as the floating intercept defender.

Really keen to unleash Kemp Philp Honey and Durdin, with Carroll next in line …

love the forward thinking with the inclusions in the 1st 22..... Because it's these guys come off and improve up to expectations [ so that they maintain their spots in the 1rts team ] we will be laughing all the way to our 17th premiership

 

[Ash24]

I'm just not sure if Cerra is best 22.

Thoughts?

Can't say I've ever heard that before!

 

[Blue__Balls]

I hear your ETET re: O'Brien. I too don't see that strength and I think this argument that other wingers are weak therefore it's ok for LOB to not be great is a crappy one. To play AFL you need strong attributes and yes LOB can run all day and yes he had a game with 4 I50 deliveries which were brilliant, but his flapping annoys me. Blaming coaches for a 22yo not being able to tackle.... oh dear. he is someone opposition coaches just isolate 1 on 1 and they win more often than not.

But its a new Blues outfit and Voss was a champ and hard. LOB will have 2022 on the list and all the very best of luck with strong structures and high expectations, we hope. No doubt he has some skill and can run allday (not fast mind you) so he has some attributes we need.

Not blaming the coaches for him not being able to tackle - cause he can. Seen it numerous times.

But I am blaming the coaches for him corralling from a distance instead of applying direct pressure to an opponent with the ball. That's not even about strength or technique, it's purely down to direct instruction. Especially given it's permeated through quite a few players on the list, because that especially indicates poor standards being set.

 

[JuddgementDay]

I'm just having another look at our best 22.

I just love the mix:

• right age brackets & experience
• strong spine
• strong defence & midfield
• a good sprinkling of pacy, explosive & creative playmakers
• good depth for injuries cover
• missing a quick small fwd (maybe Durdin or draft)
• missing a backup ruckman (maybe JSOS and McGovern can help for small stints)

Really, there's no more excuses for this group.

We had a wholesale club changes this off season - so now it's up to the players to put in the efforts, with a new game plan of course.
But, the onus is back on the players - shape up or ship out!

You'd think that the table will be turned and it will be other teams who have to put more efforts in containing the Blues in 2022.
Wouldn't that be nice for a change?

I'm refusing to accept that we are not finals bound with this list for 2022.


FB: Plowman - Jones - Williams
HB: Saad - Weitering - Stocker
C: Docherty - Cripps - Cerra
HF: Cunningham – C.Curnow - Martin
FF: Fisher - McKay - Honey

R: TDK - Walsh - Hewett
Int: Kemp - JSOS – Dow – McGovern
Emg: Fogarty, E. Curnow, Young, Newman

 

[SBYM]

ls that a serious question?

Bloody wine.

It's the devil's drink, I tell ya!!

 

[thylacine60]

Saad Young Jones
Williams Weitering Kemp
Cerra Cripps Philp
Martin Curnow Honey
Fisher McKay Silvagni

TDK Walsh Dow

Stocker Hewett Cuningham Durdin


Boyd McDonald Plowman
Williamson Marchbank Newman
O’Brien Carroll Cottrell
Newnes McGovern Fogarty
Owies Kennedy Mirkov

Pittonet Setterfield Curnow

Parks draft draft draft

*Docherty

Reckon we’ll look to further strengthen our KPP stocks through the draft.

If Young can take the opposition key forward, Jones would rule the skies as the floating intercept defender.

Really keen to unleash Kemp Philp Honey and Durdin, with Carroll next in line …

bang bang bang bang..............like it............