Analysis Best Ever Rookie?

[MadMaxx]

A list (lifted from Wikipedia) of all Rookies who have either played 100 Games or kicked 100 Goals.

The question.. Who is the best Ever?

Bolded are those I believe should be in the conversation


Michael Barlow
Nathan Bassett
Jarryd Blair
Mark Blicavs
Nathan Bock
Matthew Boyd - 3xBnF 3xAA 1xFlag
Luke Breust - 3 Flags, ~500 Goals (as a small Forward), 2xAA
Dean Brogan
Greg Broughton
Shannon Byrnes
Charlie Cameron
Levi Casboult
Andrew Carrazzo
Robert Copeland
Dean Cox - 1xFlag, 6xAA, 1BnF
Stewart Crameri
Ed Curnow
Aaron Davey
Matt de Boer
Michael Doughty
Paul Duffield
Aaron Edwards
Michael Firrito
Chad Fletcher
Nathan Foley
Josh Gibson 3xFlags, 2xBNF (in Flag Years), 1AA
Antoni Grover
Heath Grundy
Jarrod Harbrow
Pearce Hanley
Leigh Harding
Roger Hayden
Kieren Jack
Sam Jacobs
Mark Jamar
Mark Johnson
Darren Jolly
Brett Jones
Tadhg Kennelly
Brett Kirk
Rory Laird
Tarkyn Lockyer
Nathan Lovett-Murray
Heritier Lumumba
Quinten Lynch
Martin Mattner
Nick Maxwell 1x Flag, 1xAA, Collingwood Flag Capt
James McDonald
Jeremy McGovern 1xFlag, 4xAA
Ben McGlynn
Mal Michael 3xFlags
Stephen Milne 2xAA, 574 Goals (as a small Forward)
Dale Morris
Shane Mumford
Mark Nicoski
Michael Osborne
Joel Patfull
Danyle Pearce
Damien Peverill
Liam Picken
James Podsiadly
Jason Porplyzia
Matt Priddis Brownlow, 1xAA, 1xBnF
Dean Rioli
Russell Robertson
Max Rooke
Ben Rutten
Aaron Sandilands 4xAA, 2xBnF
Brad Sewell
Cheynee Stiller
Bret Thornton
Greg Tivendale
Shane Tuck
Clinton Young

 

[RUNVS]

Cox and I don't even think it is close as he is the only one on that list that changed his entire position in terms of what future ruckmen were expected to be able to do.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Some great players in there.

Finding a diamond in the rough has definitely become a rarer occurrence in last 10 years hasn’t it?

 

[bh90210fan]

Cox is also a Hall Of Fame inductee. Once you add that to the 6 x AA awards he stands out a fair bit

 

[Ekomaira]

Cox or Milne. one of the greatest rucks of all time, and one of the best small forwards of all time

 

[Jeremias]

Cox

Daylight second

Milne third

 

[hawkman]

Cox and I don't even think it is close as he is the only one on that list that changed his entire position in terms of what future ruckmen were expected to be able to do.

It is obviously Cox but rucks like Stynes were doing what Cox did before he did

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

A list (lifted from Wikipedia) of all Rookies who have either played 100 Games or kicked 100 Goals.

The question.. Who is the best Ever?

Bolded are those I believe should be in the conversation


Michael Barlow
Nathan Bassett
Jarryd Blair
Mark Blicavs
Nathan Bock
Matthew Boyd - 3xBnF 3xAA 1xFlag
Luke Breust - 3 Flags, ~500 Goals (as a small Forward), 2xAA
Dean Brogan
Greg Broughton
Shannon Byrnes
Charlie Cameron
Levi Casboult
Andrew Carrazzo
Robert Copeland
Dean Cox - 1xFlag, 6xAA, 1BnF
Stewart Crameri
Ed Curnow
Aaron Davey
Matt de Boer
Michael Doughty
Paul Duffield
Aaron Edwards
Michael Firrito
Chad Fletcher
Nathan Foley
Josh Gibson 3xFlags, 2xBNF (in Flag Years), 1AA
Antoni Grover
Heath Grundy
Jarrod Harbrow
Pearce Hanley
Leigh Harding
Roger Hayden
Kieren Jack
Sam Jacobs
Mark Jamar
Mark Johnson
Darren Jolly
Brett Jones
Tadhg Kennelly
Brett Kirk
Rory Laird
Tarkyn Lockyer
Nathan Lovett-Murray
Heritier Lumumba
Quinten Lynch
Martin Mattner
Nick Maxwell 1x Flag, 1xAA, Collingwood Flag Capt
James McDonald
Jeremy McGovern 1xFlag, 4xAA
Ben McGlynn
Mal Michael 3xFlags
Stephen Milne 2xAA, 574 Goals (as a small Forward)
Dale Morris
Shane Mumford
Mark Nicoski
Michael Osborne
Joel Patfull
Danyle Pearce
Damien Peverill
Liam Picken
James Podsiadly
Jason Porplyzia
Matt Priddis Brownlow, 1xAA, 1xBnF
Dean Rioli
Russell Robertson
Max Rooke
Ben Rutten
Aaron Sandilands 4xAA, 2xBnF
Brad Sewell
Cheynee Stiller
Bret Thornton
Greg Tivendale
Shane Tuck
Clinton Young

You missed Jason Castagna.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Jayden Short. B&F in a premiership season

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

1. Cox
2. Breust
3. Milne
4. Blicavs
5. Sandilands

 

[jim boy]

I wouldn't include Cat B's in the list, but yeah Cox immediately sprung to mind before looking at the list. More interesting to ask who the second best was. Personally, I would have gone for Sandilands.

 

[HeHateMe]

My top 5 would be: Cox, Gibbo, Milne, Breust, Sandi.

 

[Sky]

Cox, Sandi, Milne, Gibson, Rutten

 

[Apsaalooke]

None of these are in the top 5, but Adelaide picked Nathan Bock (25), Ben Rutten (40) and Marty Mattner (51) in the one rookie draft in 2001.
Not a bad haul

 

[dumb]

can see a few missing, not that i blame you for that given the source, and most of the names not found on the list won't be recognised as the best rookies

from the 2006 rookie draft alone

michael jamison
jake king
matt suckling (2 flags)
jarryn geary
leigh adams
clinton jones

 

[My Tilly]

Cox and I don't even think it is close as he is the only one on that list that changed his entire position in terms of what future ruckmen were expected to be able to do.

I think Jim Stynes changed rucking forever. He was really the first one to run around all day long and gather 18-20 touches like another midfielder. Cox took it up another gear by incorporating exquisite skills into the game. We had never seen (and still haven't) another ruckman use the ball as well as what Dean did.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I'm not one to reduce great players to arbitrary numbers. Just serves to diminish and how do you compare players in different teams, positions and eras?

When there is 1 or 2 rucks in a side, they are going to stand out.

if I was to pick a couple who weren't given the highlight treatment in the OP, I'd suggest that Mark Blicavs and Dale Morris are still chronically underrated.

 

[masai tu]

Cox and I don't even think it is close as he is the only one on that list that changed his entire position in terms of what future ruckmen were expected to be able to do.

No debate with Cox up near the top.

But ....... he did not change the position for future ruckman. His type of style had been done before, he just brought it back.

 

[74561347]

Relton roberts

 

[adammania9]

Only one premiership captain to choose from. Easy pickings

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Carrazzo
Triplet boys.
Hello season 2033

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Cox #1.

Breust #2, has been the "best small forward" of the last ten-fifteen years. Betts, Milne, even Rioli were up there, but none had the consistency of Luke over such a long period of time

Gibson, Milne, Sandilands and McGovern rounding out the top 5.

 

[Jeremias]

Carrazzo
Triplet boys.
Hello season 2033

Girls, not boys

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Not sure why Dane Rampe isn't on that list.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Girls, not boys

Future HOF premiership players