Best team from last 27 years

[Robroy22]

I'm not disagreeing with you but Brownlows are hardly a measuring stick.

To name a few, Darcy, Teasdale, Cooney, Woewodin, Wilson, & Hardie.

Did Luke Darcy win one?

 

[Mukesh]

Did Luke Darcy win one?

Not in any world I am part of..

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Did Luke Darcy win one?

Was thinking of Wynd. Probably a bit harsh on him though.

Point still stands.

 

[DraftBalta]

The fact that there's no Johnny Greening, James Clement or Peter Moore in that "Team of the Century" just makes it defunct in my eyes. Shawy was a great little skipper and a wonderful role model but Ronnie Wearmouth was a far better player. It's a bit like replacing Nuts Coventry with Maxy or Jock McHale with Mick!!

Peter Moore won a Brownlow for goodness sakes!

I love Ron Wearmouth more than sex, the unmitigated excitement when he got the ball was so thrilling it makes modern football look like lawn bowls

But let's not kid ourselves, Ronny didn't win Copeland's, didn't lead the stats and certainly didn't lead the club to a premiership

And I wouldn't have had Moore in front of Len Thompson (also Brownlow) either... and if we are talking as a forward certainly not in front of Coventry

I'd love my favourite player McKenna in there as well but even I couldn't nut (no pun intended) Coventry for him

You could make a case for Greening but with a career cut short and Daicos and Dick Lee to squeeze in I can understand it... but that one does hurt... a lot

 

[Anzacday]

I love Ron Wearmouth more than sex

 

[DraftBalta]

Ahhh the ravages of time

 

[left at home]

The fact that there's no Johnny Greening, James Clement or Peter Moore in that "Team of the Century" just makes it defunct in my eyes. Shawy was a great little skipper and a wonderful role model but Ronnie Wearmouth was a far better player. It's a bit like replacing Nuts Coventry with Maxy or Jock McHale with Mick!!

Peter Moore won a Brownlow for goodness sakes!

Like Ronnie wearmouth also, but there is no way l would have him in front Tony Shaw. Tony ended up a great player and captain for all his limitations

 

[darklake]

Was thinking of Wynd. Probably a bit harsh on him though.

Point still stands.

How very dare you punk?!

 

[ZEV]

If I were picking my team to win from the last 27 years it would be....

B G. Brown Presti Clement
HB Maxwell Tarrant H. Shaw
C Millane Pendles Burns
HF Didak Cloke Sidebottom
F Elliot Daicos D. Thomas

R. Monkhorst Buckley Swan

Int A. Rocca, McGuane, Licuria, T. Shaw

 

[davywap]

Thought I'd update this a bit, my team of the last 30 years (1990-Current):

FB: Maxwell Prestigiacomo H.Shaw
HB: Crosisca Clement B.Johnson
C: Sidebottom Buckley G.Brown
HF: Didak T.Cloke P. Williams
FF: Davis S.Rocca P.Daicos
R: Grundy Pendlebury Swan
I/C: Monkhurst McGuane Burns Treloar
EMG: A.Rocca Beams Reid Wright

 

[Robroy22]

Millane?

 

[davywap]

Millane?

Played 2 years in that time frame, 1 very good year and 1 average one. If we were going back to say '85, then he's in, no doubt. Can see your point though.

 

[BEEG]

I would have Tarrant in over Monkey and probably Thomas over McGuane

I hate Daisy but he was incredible in those GF years.

 

[davywap]

I would have Tarrant in over Monkey and probably Thomas over McGuane

I hate Daisy but he was incredible in those GF years.

He was, but it was just that - 2 years. McGuane was outstanding player for longer and would've been even longer than that without injuries, IMO anyway.
If was to put Tarrant in I'd probably swap him with A.Rocca

 

[barrackers]

Thought I'd update this a bit, my team of the last 30 years (1990-Current):

FB: Maxwell Prestigiacomo H.Shaw
HB: Crosisca Clement B.Johnson
C: Sidebottom Buckley G.Brown
HF: Didak T.Cloke P. Williams
FF: Davis S.Rocca P.Daicos
R: Grundy Pendlebury Swan
I/C: Monkhurst McGuane Burns Treloar
EMG: A.Rocca Beams Reid Wright

Good team, on a quick look I'd

• have Monkhorst as ruck (Grundy currently has only had the one good/great year)
• swap Cloke out for A. Rocca (there's minimal between their careers, but Rocca can also play 2nd ruck)
• Grundy out for Wright
• Treloar out for Licuria or T Shaw (at this stage of his career I'd also have Beams, McGuane and Francis ahead of Treloar)

I'll have a crack a full team tomorrow.


EDIT: I've reviewed my teams (1st and 2nd 25) from 12 months ago and there isn't anything I'd change solely on 2018 form. There's a few considerations I'd make in the next 12-24 months though.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

It’s now really best of 30 years

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I love this sort of thing, so from the flag year 1990 onwards, with minimum two seasons with us:

B. J Clement ~ G Pert ~ S Burns
HB. S Morwood ~ B Reid ~ M McGuane
C. D Millane ~ N Buckley (c) ~ G Brown
HF. P Daicos ~ T Cloke ~ M Williams
F. J Elliott ~ S Rocca ~ A Didak
R. D Jolly ~ S Pendlebury ~ D Swan
I. B Grundy ~ A Treloar ~ L Ball ~ A Shaw
C. L Matthews

E. H Shaw, T Francis, S Sidebottom

Slight changes

Sidebottom gets in for sure now.

Jolly out, Grundy the first ruck.

1990 onwards

B. J Clement ~ G Pert ~ S Burns
HB. S Morwood ~ B Reid ~ M McGuane
C. G Brown ~ N Buckley (c) ~ S Sidebottom
HF. P Daicos ~ T Cloke ~ D Millane
F. J Elliott ~ S Rocca ~ A Didak
R. B Grundy ~ S Pendlebury ~ D Swan
I. H Shaw ~ A Treloar ~ L Ball ~ A Shaw

C. L Matthews

 

[35Daicos]

Slight changes

Sidebottom gets in for sure now.

Jolly out, Grundy the first ruck.

1990 onwards

B. J Clement ~ G Pert ~ S Burns
HB. S Morwood ~ B Reid ~ M McGuane
C. D Millane ~ N Buckley (c) ~ G Brown
HF. P Daicos ~ T Cloke ~ M Williams
F. J Elliott ~ S Rocca ~ A Didak
R. B Grundy ~ S Pendlebury ~ D Swan
I. S Sidebottom ~ A Treloar ~ L Ball ~ A Shaw

C. L Matthews

Mark Williams (who doesn't qualify)? Or do you mean Paul?

I love picking these sorts of teams as well, but it's always hard to know just what "rules" you're supposed to be following. I guess there just aren't any, apart from the 1990> bit in this case! Are you meant to pick players based on their absolute best football played for us in that time, even if it has only lasted for a year or two (that allows the likes of Grundy and Millane to be picked) or should it be on "body of work" (Monkhorst and probably Jolly would be in front of Grundy if it was done on that basis, but Grundy's best is almost certainly miles in front of his rivals)?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Mark Williams (who doesn't qualify)? Or do you mean Paul?

I love picking these sorts of teams as well, but it's always hard to know just what "rules" you're supposed to be following. I guess there just aren't any, apart from the 1990> bit in this case! Are you meant to pick players based on their absolute best football played for us in that time, even if it has only lasted for a year or two (that allows the likes of Grundy and Millane to be picked) or should it be on "body of work" (Monkhorst and probably Jolly would be in front of Grundy if it was done on that basis, but Grundy's best is almost certainly miles in front of his rivals)?

You are 100% correct.
I just stuffed up with Mark Williams and when he played. Dreadful error by me as usually I’m quite exact on such things.
Didn’t mean Paul though he should be there abouts. I’ll correct my team someone like Heath Shaw probably gets in now or Beams maybe?

Re the criteria, when it’s a consigned time line usually I take more liberties using one or two years because these things really are best done with pretty much full careers completed.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Mark Williams (who doesn't qualify)? Or do you mean Paul?

Now corrected

B. J Clement ~ G Pert ~ S Burns
HB. S Morwood ~ B Reid ~ M McGuane
C. G Brown ~ N Buckley (c) ~ S Sidebottom
HF. P Daicos ~ T Cloke ~ D Millane
F. J Elliott ~ S Rocca ~ A Didak
R. B Grundy ~ S Pendlebury ~ D Swan
I. H Shaw ~ A Treloar ~ L Ball ~ A Shaw

C. L Matthews

E. D Jolly, D Beams, T Francis, P Williams

 

[Saintly Viewed]

^ actually I look at the above and Beams and Paul Williams are in the fully body of work better players than the so far Treloar career. I’m probably projecting so that my need further consideration.

Interesting excercise.

 

[35Daicos]

^ actually I look at the above and Beams and Paul Williams are in the fully body of work better players than the so far Treloar career. I’m probably projecting so that my need further consideration.

Interesting excercise.

I think recentism (apparently that really is a word!!) can be a real issue. I couldn't put the likes of Elliott, Treloar, or even Ball in the team, and leave Graham Wright (a fantastic player) out, for instance. Elliott is an absolute favourite current player, but I (we all) would love to see him string together a few seasons now where he can play a lot of games and show that he belongs in such company.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I think recentism (apparently that really is a word!!) can be a real issue. I couldn't put the likes of Elliott, Treloar, or even Ball in the team, and leave Graham Wright (a fantastic player) out, for instance. Elliott is an absolute favourite current player, but I (we all) would love to see him string together a few seasons now where he can play a lot of games and show that he belongs in such company.

You’re ofcourse right.

But I’ve taken liberty as it’s a conjested time line team.

From 1990 onwards we only get two seasons of Daicos and Millane.
But they are enough.

Agree Wright should be much higher by me, loved him in 1990 the way he’d run and bounce in that style of his at VFL park in particular.

Separately two players I feel our suppprters forget about for us are Pert and Ball.
Pert to me was far better than Presti or Brown N as an example.
Ball was so good for us, really helped deliver 2010 success.

I just thought Chris Tarrant, probably needs a higher rating. Have I neglected him?
Leon Davis I just leave out because his finals and GF record hurts him a bit.

 

[melaniej]

Mark Williams (who doesn't qualify)? Or do you mean Paul?

Marley.

 

[barrackers]

Are you meant to pick players based on their absolute best football played for us in that time, even if it has only lasted for a year or two (that allows the likes of Grundy and Millane to be picked) or should it be on "body of work" (Monkhorst and probably Jolly would be in front of Grundy if it was done on that basis, but Grundy's best is almost certainly miles in front of his rivals)?

If it’s only 1-2 years players like Medhurst and Anthony come into contention. A team of best year vs body of work would make for an interesting comparison.