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[GFC29]

This is why you never tempt fate - just had my first 'withdrawal' problem pop up.

Before my withdrawal would be processed, Jungle Bet asked to see:

1. Debit/ Credit card photos.
2. Selfie with ID
3. Evidence of source of income
4. Bank Statement with my name showing last 60 days of transactions, un-redacted.

For context, I had had two bets, both on the Rugby World Cup. One was my first deposit, the other was the associated Bonus Bet for my first deposit. Both were on different Quarter Finals over a week ago.

The kicker is that there was no withdrawal request because both bets had lost and as a result my account balance was zero. When pressed on it they said the info required was actually required for my next withdrawal. Seems to me like the mucked up a bit and thought they might be able to hold up the funds/ cancel my bets/ encourage me to cancel the withdrawal and keep betting.

Either way, it was satisfying telling them the requested documents were completely unreasonable, wouldn't be forthcoming and to close my account whilst being in a position where there was no skin in the game for me (other than missing those great odds in the future)

Just had the same experience with PuntCity. Same owners as WishBet it seems too, and also had similar issues when withdrawing from them.

I made a modest 10% profit over a number of bets, and turning over the initial deposit/attached bonus bets. I submitted the requested documents and got my money out (they didn't even respond to me, just processed the withdrawal after passing it to their 'compliance team').

It's an absolute farce. I'm sure they'll claim it's some sort of due diligence to ensure you're a 'recreational punter', but requesting information about your source of income is a bit ridiculous.

 

[dtm06]

It's an absolute farce. I'm sure they'll claim it's some sort of due diligence to ensure you're a 'recreational punter', but requesting information about your source of income is a bit ridiculous.

Yeah it's crazy. That and the bank statement one seem really intrusive. I'd even begrudgingly accept the bank statement request if it was just to see your name and the account number for verification, but the 60 days reeks of a fishing expedition to find an excuse to void bets.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Boombet?

 

[mountainsman]

here's a tip, sgm tab won't combine on tab on website but via phone app it tends to for some strange reason

tab isnt great either

their sgm promo is alright but half of the time you try and add a leg it says they cant be combined

 

[mountainsman]

Things like a good player to get 6 assists = 1.40 when their line is 6.5 and stuff like that.

They obviously know people are loading into SGM without thinking but odds on everything plummeting.

Players that average 20 disposals in footy were like 1.50 or often worse to get 20. It's up to punters to not bet it and force their hand to offer more true odds but it's frustrating atm. Very little of interest to even get a SGM on

lamo sb odds were 3 times worse than tab when i went to add le bron leg to it. they've also dropped my bonus back to $10.

 

[Hamingja]

It's an absolute farce. I'm sure they'll claim it's some sort of due diligence to ensure you're a 'recreational punter', but requesting information about your source of income is a bit ridiculous.

Maybe some of these pop ups (generally speaking, not talking about an individual bookie from previous posts) are branching out from abusing self excluded gambling addicts to identity theft and money laundering. AUSTRAC / AFP should really be having a long hard look at them.

If you have ID, pictures of the person holding the ID (which is a verification thing banks use to certify ID remotely via provider like IDYOU), income documents and bank statements then you have basically got all you need to knock up a fraudulent loan or credit card application or sell the documents on the dark web for someone else to do it.

I don't see how the small sugar hit on the bonus bets is worth the effort with these cowboys for the risks it opens you up to.

 

[TomTuesdays13]

Maybe some of these pop ups (generally speaking, not talking about an individual bookie from previous posts) are branching out from abusing self excluded gambling addicts to identity theft and money laundering. AUSTRAC / AFP should really be having a long hard look at them.

If you have ID, pictures of the person holding the ID (which is a verification thing banks use to certify ID remotely via provider like IDYOU), income documents and bank statements then you have basically got all you need to knock up a fraudulent loan or credit card application or sell the documents on the dark web for someone else to do it.

I don't see how the small sugar hit on the bonus bets is worth the effort with these cowboys for the risks it opens you up to.

I think most of the do it under the banner of “complying with anti-money laundering rules”, but they probably just do it to make it harder to withdraw.

 

[sk1001]

This is why you never tempt fate - just had my first 'withdrawal' problem pop up.

Before my withdrawal would be processed, Jungle Bet asked to see:

1. Debit/ Credit card photos.
2. Selfie with ID
3. Evidence of source of income
4. Bank Statement with my name showing last 60 days of transactions, un-redacted.

For context, I had had two bets, both on the Rugby World Cup. One was my first deposit, the other was the associated Bonus Bet for my first deposit. Both were on different Quarter Finals over a week ago.

The kicker is that there was no withdrawal request because both bets had lost and as a result my account balance was zero. When pressed on it they said the info required was actually required for my next withdrawal. Seems to me like the mucked up a bit and thought they might be able to hold up the funds/ cancel my bets/ encourage me to cancel the withdrawal and keep betting.

Either way, it was satisfying telling them the requested documents were completely unreasonable, wouldn't be forthcoming and to close my account whilst being in a position where there was no skin in the game for me (other than missing those great odds in the future)

I have the same experience with jungle with the exception of being asked for all those supporting docs.

Deposited to claim BB and 'lost' (i.e. arbed it off) it all (qualifying stake and BB), yet I have not been asked to jump through any such hoops.

Another (not to be named) betcloud bookie has banned me from promos (which is really just BBs for depositing since they don't seem to actually have promo markets). Odd because prior to the ban they had emailed me BB deposit offers twice in a matter of days and none of the BBs have won. I am up but they are from 'non-promo' bets so I can only assume they are banning me for being a winning punter.

I have withdrawn from this bookie before no issue, but now that I have been promo banned, let's see if that changes for my next withdrawal....

 

[based]

here's a tip, sgm tab won't combine on tab on website but via phone app it tends to for some strange reason

nah i tried that and had the same issue

still doing it too

i think it happens when you use the o/u player markets instead of the 10+/20+/30+ etc

i assume theyre just forcing you to bet their shittiest odds

 

[rota69]

This is why you never tempt fate - just had my first 'withdrawal' problem pop up.

Before my withdrawal would be processed, Jungle Bet asked to see:

1. Debit/ Credit card photos.
2. Selfie with ID
3. Evidence of source of income
4. Bank Statement with my name showing last 60 days of transactions, un-redacted.

For context, I had had two bets, both on the Rugby World Cup. One was my first deposit, the other was the associated Bonus Bet for my first deposit. Both were on different Quarter Finals over a week ago.

The kicker is that there was no withdrawal request because both bets had lost and as a result my account balance was zero. When pressed on it they said the info required was actually required for my next withdrawal. Seems to me like the mucked up a bit and thought they might be able to hold up the funds/ cancel my bets/ encourage me to cancel the withdrawal and keep betting.

Either way, it was satisfying telling them the requested documents were completely unreasonable, wouldn't be forthcoming and to close my account whilst being in a position where there was no skin in the game for me (other than missing those great odds in the future)

Misso had exact same issue with Sterling Parker. Once a bookie does this, they can't be touched again...

 

[sk1001]

Is what they are asking actually legal? Do we have any other options or is it a matter of no documents = no withdrawal?

 

[clappedpunter]

Don't touch Webetnet, got a big fine from racing nsw and impending case coming their way.

Where are you hearing this from?

 

[blorsmores]

Is what they are asking actually legal? Do we have any other options or is it a matter of no documents = no withdrawal?

It's legal if it's in the terms of service. If you refuse your only course of action is court (and you'll end up having to provide said documents) or they will cancel any wagers/winnings and return your deposit.

If they're going to request documentation they should at least do it before any wagering occurs, but they will never do that.

 

[Hamingja]

I think most of the do it under the banner of “complying with anti-money laundering rules”, but they probably just do it to make it harder to withdraw.

I've never been asked for income documents to "comply with anti-money laundering rules" from Tabcorp, Sportsbet, Bet365 etc.

If you give them your income documents you are a complete idiot.

 

[rota69]

Where are you hearing this from?

I've seen the outcome letter were they were found guilty. Last I know of it is complaintent is seeking or finalising a lawyer who understands gambling law ( extremely hard to find) to sue, big chance they lose there license and could be an issue using them.

 

[sk1001]

I've never been asked for income documents to "comply with anti-money laundering rules" from Tabcorp, Sportsbet, Bet365 etc.

If you give them your income documents you are a complete idiot.

Why is that?

If it's in their T&C and you want your money, not sure there's any way out?

 

[oshe]

how many people have money stuck with puntcity and junglebet (same company I believe)?

 

[sohohoho]

how many people have money stuck with puntcity and junglebet (same company I believe)?

Puntcity is owned by Wishbet, it is registered in his Mrs name.

unsure about Junglebet

 

[burge13]

Can we perhaps stop signing up to these dodgy bookies then coming here complaining a dodgy bookie was dodgy? Would save alot of time

If it's a book no one has heard of, just avoid it. Is it really worth the $50 bonus bet, being promo banned 1 bet in then having to **** around for your withdrawal?

 

[sohohoho]

Can we perhaps stop signing up to these dodgy bookies then coming here complaining a dodgy bookie was dodgy? Would save alot of time

If it's a book no one has heard of, just avoid it. Is it really worth the $50 bonus bet, being promo banned 1 bet in then having to * around for your withdrawal?

Think the most useful thing is people linking these new books with current ones then everyone can decide if they should sign up or not based on that.
That is very useful info to know, eg Puntcity being run by Jon Walsh the piece of shit

 

[jsnipe]

Noisy and Surge now have sports available, also Noisy offering a $25 bonus bet (1 in 2 chance) for a positive review in the app store.

 

[jsnipe]

Can we perhaps stop signing up to these dodgy bookies then coming here complaining a dodgy bookie was dodgy? Would save alot of time

If it's a book no one has heard of, just avoid it. Is it really worth the $50 bonus bet, being promo banned 1 bet in then having to * around for your withdrawal?

No need to avoid, some have decent promotions available and are legit. It's just a matter of working out who owns what. Some are obviously full scum!

 

[saintlexus]

No need to avoid, some have decent promotions available and are legit. It's just a matter of working out who owns what. Some are obviously full scum!

really peculiar that some are good for some people. and others not. But to help the cause:

React if they have dogged you

Wishbet

Puntcity

Junglebet

Sterling Parker

Zbet

Upcoz

Puntgenie

Just had a quick scroll to use these, ill edit if any are okay by the general pop, and if there are scummier sites

 

[Hu$tler]

Anyone need a deposit code?

 

[clappedpunter]

Anyone need a deposit code?

for what site?