Big Cricket Thread

[Ochre]

I agree with this. In most jobs you'd get fired if you used your job to promote your own political views.

Where CA stuffed up was letting other players get away with this sort out thing before. Cummins and his anti gas stance against a sponsor was far worse. I hope they're drawing a line now and we can just have cricket.

The thing with the Cummins stance is surely he'd have run it past PR or someone in CA to some degree...very, very rarely would the captain go rogue in bad mouthing a sponsor. All very odd.

What exactly do you two think actually happened?

 

[Ochre]

Also it's fascinating how being against gas is making a political point, but extolling the virtues of it isn't

 

[Dazzler9]

If the ICC has rules against messaging on players' apparel/equipment, then fair enough Uzzie gets overruled on this occasion. Purely based on, if you allow one exception to go through, then where do you stop?

However, the message itself looks pretty darn benign. I mean, come on.

 

[Ochre]

If the ICC has rules against messaging on players' apparel/equipment, then fair enough Uzzie gets overruled on this occasion. Purely based on, if you allow one exception to go through, then where do you stop?

However, the message itself looks pretty darn benign. I mean, come on.

Yeah, exactly, you allow this through and next thing you know players will have political messages everywhere at the next World Cup final at Narendra Modi stadium.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

So he's not actually saying anything, just wearing shoes? I know FIFA have rules against this, does the ICC as well? Play on other wise.

Released a 3 minute video inclusive of obvious bollocks and dripping with hypocrisy and definitely zero self awareness

“I’m not picking a side” whilst wearing writing in the colour of the Palestinian flag

At least come out and say as a Muslim, I don’t like it when non muslims kill muslims - that would at least be authentic

Or perhaps come out when say Afghanistan women are being denied their freedom and in a very real cricket related sense have had their women’s side cancelled

That would at least be relevant

But of course…. No coloured writing on the shoes for that

His actual message about lives being equal and freedom being a right are actually bang on - it’s the obvious intermittent application of it that is rankling people. Not to mention that 18 months ago the message would be seen as a dog whistle to white supremacy rather than just an obvious point

 

[Truckosaurus]

Travis Head named co-vice captain, clearly anointing him as the captain in waiting (assuming he can knock the door down with his captaincy). He's come a long way from being dropped for the first Test in India.

 

[Forward Press]

Also it's fascinating how being against gas is making a political point, but extolling the virtues of it isn't

Player has a message with a view I agree on = freedom of speech and expression, sport is inherently political etc
Player has a message with a view I don't agree on = keep politics out of my sport, play stupid games win stupid prizes etc

 

[Forward Press]

Also, no particular opinion on what Khawaja wanted to do - and I agree with the reasons for the rule because the ICC does not want to alienate people and just wants to get on with cricket - but saying sports and politics don't mix is inherently a weak argument, because then by logical extension it means you are on the wrong side of history about things like the Black Power salute at the 1968 Olympics, Cathy Freeman waving the Aboriginal flag at the 1994 Commonwealth games, and the boycott of apartheid South Africa.

 

[Rowan18]

Also it's fascinating how being against gas is making a political point, but extolling the virtues of it isn't

It certainly would be if a player on their own accord decided to go out and make public statements supporting gas or writing stuff on their uniform. My point is that neither should be accepted - if you take the CA cash then you push the message they tell you (or sort it out behind closed doors).

The gas company was a sponsor too, which is why their advertising was on uniforms and included players.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Also, no particular opinion on what Khawaja wanted to do - and I agree with the reasons for the rule because the ICC does not want to alienate people and just wants to get on with cricket - but saying sports and politics don't mix is inherently a weak argument, because then by logical extension it means you are on the wrong side of history about things like the Black Power salute at the 1968 Olympics, Cathy Freeman waving the Aboriginal flag at the 1994 Commonwealth games, and the boycott of apartheid South Africa.

Mohammad Ali, Jesse Owens ... Sport and politics have always been linked and always will be.

 

[Lia]

Freedom of speech is fine he can say what he wants when he wants in his own personal time.

But using a test match as a platform is where I draw the line .

People watch sport to get away from politics.

Look at the BLM kneeling and what it did to the T20 would cup last time . Turned it into a political s**t show.

Some scribble on a pair of shoes is hardly equivalent to BLM kneeling.

 

[Lia]

Is anyone going? How are the conditions?

 

[Truckosaurus]

Is anyone going? How are the conditions?

Sunny, mid-20s, light breeze

 

[KBLT]

Christ the big ass Toyota logo on the front of the kit looks terrible

 

[Doashuey]

Also, no particular opinion on what Khawaja wanted to do - and I agree with the reasons for the rule because the ICC does not want to alienate people and just wants to get on with cricket - but saying sports and politics don't mix is inherently a weak argument, because then by logical extension it means you are on the wrong side of history about things like the Black Power salute at the 1968 Olympics, Cathy Freeman waving the Aboriginal flag at the 1994 Commonwealth games, and the boycott of apartheid South Africa.

The Roman's feeding Christians to the Lions was one of the original sports.
Politics and Sport have been inherently mixed since the beginning of time.

 

[Dazzler9]

Christ the big ass Toyota logo on the front of the kit looks terrible

There seems to be extra logos plastered over the uniforms. Approaching WAFL guernsey areas.

 

[Truckosaurus]

You don't see that every day.

 

[matthew_s]

There seems to be extra logos plastered over the uniforms. Approaching WAFL guernsey areas.

check out an NBL game!

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Warner Flat tracking Pakistan until Retirement after sucking away or against good opposition for his whole career seems very fitting .

Would have been a very good opportunity to blood a new opener .

But as a loyal , fair and in form player I suppose warner deserves it

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Commentators wondering why there is no swing ?

Its 28°c and not a cloud in the sky

 

[happy_eagle]

The worry here is that Pakistan were meant to be the stronger opposition of our summer matchups.
Doesn't exactly bode well for an interesting summer of test cricket. SCG might be a closer contest.

 

[Bender_]

Dropped and 4.

 

[Farang83150]

Interesting 6 from Warner!

 

[Farang83150]

Afridi looking a bit Klingon, done something to his face?

 

[Farang83150]

They're saying there'll be an interview with C.Green during the lunch break , there's been some personal stuff going on with him or something.

Edit. They say it's to do with a personal health battle.