BigFooty Official Big Footy 2016 Phantom Draft

[Snoop Dog]

We will pass on grundog49 as not sure they will even use it

 

[Snoop Dog]

OK all that completes the 2016 Big Footy Phantom Draft. Be interesting to see Chris25 review of us all, considering a deep draft cant imagine to many poor returns for any club bar Hawthorn! Thanks for your efforts. I think a few of you have some bio's to do so would be great if you could do them.

As always lets do the rookie draft. I need you each to send me circa 20-30 selections in order. Please send through by Thursday COB and I will put it together and post it up.

Adelaide - Thunderstruck
Brisbane - Quigley
Carlton - LemmingMaster
Collingwood - Knightmare
Essendon - foj1
Fremantle - Chris25
Geelong - Snoop Dog
Gold Coast - Offsider
GWS - Snoop Dog
Hawthorn - POULTERBEAR
Melbourne - DraftMe
North Melbourne - Pie 4 Life
Port Adelaide - Gee Dub
Richmond - Bishop
Swans - grundog49
St Kilda - AFLprospectss
Western Bulldogs - Wizard17
WCE - Monocle

 

[Toadvine]

I know you've probably been asked 1000 times but when is your Phantom up Snoop Dog ?

 

[Snoop Dog]

I know you've probably been asked 1000 times but when is your Phantom up Snoop Dog ?

Now this is over I can start swinging the bat it. I like doing it a little later. Hopeful of getting a bit of insight later in the week on a few questions I have so want to wait for that. Maybe Friday or weekend.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Jarman and Hinge write-ups:

Jarman

Had to match the bid on Ben Jarman as he shouldn't be playing for anyone else but the crows and yes he certainly is good enough to be drafted and playing AFL, should have a bright future ahead.

Atm Ben is very slight of frame and will need significant gym work over the years to strengthen his body to AFL level. I envisage a 3-4 year period before he really makes an impact, until then his impact will probably be fairly spasmodic with most of his footy in the SANFL.

Ben is a smart footballer with clean hands and generally a good kick. He makes good decisions, runs to the right areas and is always looking to create, especially across half-forward where he can be dangerous impacting on the scoreboard. He's far too smart for most of his Under 18 peers, and always seems to have time to dispose and pick the right options. He's not got the complete freak ability of his dad nor the absolute dead eye dick in front of goal but he's certainly blessed with a lot of ability. Once he adds muscle to his frame he will be dangerous half forward who may push up into the middle but will need to build on his tank and also improve his defensive side a little. On talent alone he's close to the top 30 in this draft so to get him at 56 is quite the bargain. He could well end up a 200+ gamer for the crows and play a similar role that Brent Harvey played for the roos over his career, nippy, small but smart and always one you don't want to get off the leash.

Hinge

Mitchell Hinge is a fairly strong bodied, hard running half back who has played some fantastic school footy for Sacred Heart this season along with an earlier pick of mine Conor Noonan. He's the brother of ex crow John Hinge and I feel is more talented, although no star. His best asset is his competitiveness, he never dies wondering and will bust his backside every game, either being the main man repelling attacks or being good defenisvely. He's also a fairly solid left foot kick and often takes responsibility for the kick in and when he hits it, can be quite penetrating which will attract AFL scouts. He did disappoint me in his Allies game as I know he's better than that but to his credit had some solid games after that in the carnival. He's the ultimate team man with ability to go through the middle or even up forward and his all round game will do him plenty of favours come draft day. Far too good to be going this late and could well be a dark horse of this draft.

 

[Chris25]

Okay, here's my quick review of the draft. Generally pretty positive. I didn't rate my own draft, even if it was obvioulsy an A+. So feel free to grade it as you see fit. I apologise to anyone not happy with their grade...

My Draft Review

Adelaide - Daniel Venables (14), Connor Noonan (45), Joseph Atley (53), Ben Jarman (56), Mitchell Hinge (73)

I like the pick of Venables here, gives Adelaide that big body in the midfield to work and in the short term it only increases the potency of that forward line. And while I'm personally not a big fan of Atley, he adds immediate depth and there is a spot in that starting midfield up for the taking. Noonan wasn't exactly a value pick at #45, but he has speed and enough to work with. And Hinge is a workmanlike defender who could easily find a role.
Grade: B-

Brisbane - Ben Ainsworth (3), Oliver Florent (16), Shai Bolton (22), Brandon Parfitt (23), Jacob Allison (67), Declan Watson (70)

Got lucky in my opinion to be able to match bids on Allison and Watson so late, costing them nothing. I still think Allison could receive a much earlier than expected bid. Otherwise, I love the first three picks. Straight away it looks like Brisbane will be 2-3 goals a game better off, and makes them so much more exciting. It's time they added some playmakers to the mix.
Grade: A

Carlton - Tim Taranto (5), Jordan Gallucci (27), Myles Poholke (49), Liam Baker (68), Jye Bolton (72), Tony Olango (76), Bailey Morrish (87)

Getting Gallucci and Poholke right at the bottom of their draft ranges is good value, even if I'm not sold on either two as prospects. But for me the draft is all about the first and last picks, with Morrish arguably the biggest bargain for mine. It's a good mix of midfielders and flankers, could they have pulled the pin on a KPP at #27? Maybe, what with the depth in talls quickly dropping away. Olango will be fun to develop though.
Grade: B-

Collingwood - Willem Drew (30), Ben Ronke (46), Lachlan Tiziani (52), Brodie Romensky (65), Brett Eddy (71)

I think if you ask anyone on BigFooty who Knightmare's personal favourites are this year, they'd be able to name these 5 players. It seemed like he went in with a plan, as opposed to looking for value at each pick. In the profiles, he's got the last four rated as late/rookie picks so it's hard to rate that highly. I do like Tiziani, I'd have drafted him last year. Otherwise, the choice to pass on Brown and Daicos is questionable.
Grade: D

Essendon - Andrew McGrath (1), Dylan Clarke (21), Jack Graham (32), Ben Long (43), Esava Ratugolea (74)

First surprise of the draft with McGrath going at #1, but it's a move I'm in favour of because few players offer what he does. Clarke and Graham are a little similar, with both having the same strengths and weaknesses, but they'll also both be able to contend in Round 1. Personally, I'd maybe have gone for a Cedric Cox or Shai Bolton at #21, knowing that Graham would be available later. Otherwise, Long offers some real talent and versatility.
Grade: B

Fremantle - Jarrod Berry (9), Josh Rotham (38), Josh Williams (42), Jack Henry (77), Kym LeBois (85)

Obviously I like my own draft. Berry and Williams were picked at the top of their ranges, but they fit perfectly what I was after. The Rotham pick was a bit of a surprise, I wasn't expecting him to be on the board. But him and Berry are different enough to be able to justify it. I could have gone for a more accomplished inside midfielder, but at the pick I think developing Henry was the value selection. And LeBois, well he's just exciting.
Grade: N/A

Geelong - Cedric Cox (26), Ryan Garthwaite (41), Josh Begley (44), Patrick Lipinski (69), Darcy Cameron (78), Judah Dundon (80), Tom Stewart (97)

I don't know if it was the plan going in, but Geelong certainly have one of the more ready made groups. Garthwaite and Stewart should come on quickly as defenders, and Begley could slot in at half forward reasonably early too. So with those picks, it means that projects like Lipinski and Dundon can be taken without too much of a worry. The complete lack of speed and agility is a problem for me with Cameron though.
Grade: B

Gold Coast - Sam Petrevski-Seton (4), Will Brodie (6), Jack Bowes (8), Tim English (11), Brad Scheer (24)

Not many teams had it easier than the Gold Coast, with so many top 10 picks. It's hard to really mark them down on anything. They got lucky with Bowes not receiving an earlier bid, being able to use their first two picks on the open pool would be a dream. And I think they got a perfect mix with SPS, Brodie and English. The go home factor is the only thing that could stop them finally making their move.
Grade: A

GWS - Hugh McCluggage (2), Will Setterfield (7), Harry Perryman (19), Kobe Mutch (31), Harrison Macreadie (39), Sam Walker (57), Isaac Cumming (59), Zac Sproule (60)

Again, GWS dominate the draft with multiple first rounders. I do think they'd prefer McGrath, but McCluggage is a decent backup. Otherwise, they didn't have many choices to make as they matched all the obvious bids. Getting Walker before Cumming and Sproule was a nice little bonus.
Grade: A

Hawthorn - Oscar McInerney (94), Harrison Burt (96)

They were never going to be able to make much of an impact on this draft, taking two picks when everyone else had already gone home for the night. At this point, it's pretty much taking your first pick of the rookies really. Both will need a few years to develop, and could go either way. McInerney wouldn't be my choice of developing ruckman, but Burt certainly has some tools as an outside midfielder.
Grade: C-

Melbourne - Patrick Kerr (48), Oscar Junker (75)

Coming in with just the two picks, I think Melbourne did just about as good as they could hope for. There are arguably only about 4 key forwards who will go in the national draft, and they managed to steal one at #48. Junker meanwhile is a good project player, 190cm and can play any position really. As a team, they got slower with these two picks but they also got better in my opinion.
Grade: B+

North Melbourne - Jack Scrimshaw (12), Josh Daicos (35), Zac Fisher (36), Louis Cunningham (93), Reece Piper (98)

Very much an offensive minded draft here, and one I think North Melbourne would be wise to employ in the real thing. Cunningham and Piper add some real run and skill to the half back line, while Scrimshaw does the same thing but in a completely different way. Daicos probably went at the top of his range, but it's a good fit nonetheless. And there's a definite spot in that midfield for a small ball magnet...Fisher could make it his own.
Grade: B

Port Adelaide - Todd Marshall (15), Jy Simpkin (17), Jonty Scharenberg (33), Matt Guelfi (34)

Smart money seems to have Marshall as one of the picks for Port in the first round, so it's no real surprise to see it happen here. I was hoping he'd cement himself at the top of the order, but he's still a worthy first round pick. Potentially could have waited until #17, knowing Brisbane wouldn't take him and then gone Florent over Simpkin. But that's splitting hairs. Bit early for Guelfi, but he and Scharenberg will add depth next year.
Grade: B-

Richmond - Jordan Ridley (29), Harry Morrison (58), Oliver Hanrahan (88)

The key to this draft will be where Ridley plays, if he develops as a defender or a midfielder. I personally think it'll be on the half back line. Otherwise, with him and the other two picks Richmond have put a focus on foot skills and that's not a bad move. Thought Morrison was a good value pick up. A player with some line breaking speed could have been another option, but they didn't really have the picks for that.
Grade: C+

St Kilda - Alex Witherden (25), Callum Brown (40), Corey Lyons (64), Tyson Stengle (92)

At 40, Brown was a good pick and would absolutely be matched in the real thing by Collingwood. Him and Billings could rotate nicely through half forward and midfield. And although St Kilda went pretty small with all their picks, they all offer a little something different. Witherden being good value because of injury, and Lyons offering someone who could compete in year one.
Grade: B-

Sydney - Griffin Logue (10), Luke Ryan (20), Elliot Himmelberg (47), Taylin Duman (50)

I think everyone just assumes that if he's there, then the Swans will take Logue with their first pick. And I wouldn't really be able to fault it. The same goes for Ryan, with nearly everyone mocking him to the Swans. I thought Himmelberg was a particularly good pick at #47, even if the Swans don't necessarily need to double up on key defenders. Duman would make for a nice project to work with, could play any number of roles.
Grade: B

Western Bulldogs - Will Hayward (18), Josh Battle (28), Jack Maibaum (51), Arie Sakeson (81)

Really looking to give as many options in that forward line as possible, the Bulldogs would be flushed with players now. Battle would be a good choice up there, he'd be the bridge between Boyd and the likes of Crameri/Stringer. But also giving the option of playing another 195cm+ forward with them too. Hayward just adds another avenue to goal, with midfield potential. He'd thrive at the Bulldogs I'm sure. While Maibaum provides cover for the possible departure of Adams.
Grade: A-

West Coast - Sam Powell-Pepper (13), Brennan Cox (37), Tom Williamson (54), Jake Waterman (55), Jeremy Goddard (100)

Some good value here with Cox, Williamson and Waterman in my opinion. I could make a strong case for all three going at least twenty spots higher. Cox in particular was a strong pick up here. And Powell-Pepper would be my pick for their first rounder too, I think Adelaide will be hoping the Eagles pass. I just think it's a good mix really. What SPP lacks, Williamson adds. And vice versa.
Grade: A

 

[Wizard17]

Pick 28 - Joshua Battle

Height: 192cm
Weight: 90kg
Club of Origin: Dandenong Stingrays

Bio: Battle is a tall forward with elite endurance, has a very good set shot routine and excellent foot skills. Although he has played as a key target at TAC Cup level and during the U18's Champs he is unlikely to do this at the top level and is more likely to be a 2nd or 3rd tall that plays high half forward and (in time) pushes up onto a wing or behind the ball on occasion in a similar fashion to Gunston or Crameri. Also like Gunston, Battle is the sort of forward that takes every opportunity he is given being a very reliable set shot and equally accurate when kicking goals from ground balls this means even when he is being well held he will often kick 1 or 2 goals from limited opportunities. I do have some question marks over his agility and his height at 192cm places him at an awkward height for a tall forward.

Why the Dogs: Thinking of the future. With some of our forwards approaching their 30's I think that it is important to have the next generation developing on the list so that they can come straight into the side in 2 or 3 years. Battle was one that I had thought of selecting at my first selection however some of the question marks I had over him where greater than that of players that where on the board at the time, I was surprised he dropped this far but it was a nice surprise.

Others I thought of Selecting: Jordan Ridley, Jack Maibaum, Taylin Duman, Kobe Mutch.

 

[Wizard17]

Pick 51 - Jack Maibaum

Height: 193cm
Weight: 90kg
Club of Origin: Eastern Ranges

Bio: The best nullifying key defender in this draft pool, Maibaum is an incredibly competitive defender that I really liked the work of this year both at the under 18 champs and for the Eastern Ranges. Possessing outstanding agility for a Key Defender, he finished second behind Tom Williamson in the agility testing with a time of 8:19s and has clean hands (26/30 at the combine) to go with his natural poise. He is by all means a lock down defender he doesn't provide much rebound yet but he is capable of clamping down on his opponents and beats them consistently. He also has some scope as a swingman having played most of his junior football as a Key Forward.

Why the dogs: Losing Hamling this year and with question marks over Marcus Adams picking up another key defender to fill the voids is an obvious must for the dogs. I had Maibaum ranked in the top 40 so to see him at 51 meant that the pick was a lot easier than I thought that it would be.

Other players I thought of selecting: Zac Sproule, Mitchell Hinge, Tom Williamson

 

[Wizard17]

Pick 81 - Ari Sakeson

Height: 190.5cm
Weight: 83.2kg
Club of Origin: Sandringham Dragons

Bio: Ari is a 3rd tall defender capable of providing rebound, defends very well and who has good disposal. He has done some very good jobs this year in particular he had a very good finals series for Sandringham having played very good defensive jobs on both Joshua Battle and Todd Marshall the later being in the grand final. At his height though he is likely to be developed as a third tall or as a tall back flanker.

Why the Dogs: Sakeson is the sort of player that I could very well see develop into a capable defender who is capable of playing above his height but also play on smaller opponents much like Dale Morris. With some of our other tall defenders that we have drafted in the past few years having little or no rebounding games I feel that Sakeson could add something a little bit different to the mix of tall defenders that we have.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Just reviewing the latest podcast - Twomey and Ablett have done their best fit top 30 compared to the BF Phantom. It is who they think would be the best fit at each pick, not necessarily best available and not completely who they think will be taken (though some of that I think has crept in).

A good podcast if you have time to listen. http://www.afl.com.au/draft/road-to-the-draft

In comparison to the BF Phantom
5 players taken more than 10 places earlier.
1. Isaac Cummings up 32 spots to pick 27 (Doggies bid, GWS match)
2. Sam Walker up 27 spots to pick 30 (Collingwood)
3. Patrick Kerr up 22 to pick 26 (Carlton)
4. Brennan Cox up 14 spots to pick 23 (Brisbane)
5. Josh Battle up 12 spots to pick 16 (Port)

No players taken more than 10 places later, highest being
Sam Powell Pepper taken 8 later by Essendon
Daniel Venables taken 8 later by Brisbane
Jarod Berry taken 5 places later by West Coast

So I took 3 things away from it
1. Academy talent is hard to pick - posters may have been reluctant to pull the trigger
2. Midfield type options in the 10 to 25 are pretty even so a drift of 5 to 8 in the teens is to be expected
3. KPF's are thin so clubs may reach (pretty typical)

 

[Apex36]

Okay, here's my quick review of the draft. Generally pretty positive. I didn't rate my own draft, even if it was obvioulsy an A+. So feel free to grade it as you see fit. I apologise to anyone not happy with their grade...

My Draft Review

Adelaide - Daniel Venables (14), Connor Noonan (45), Joseph Atley (53), Ben Jarman (56), Mitchell Hinge (73)

I like the pick of Venables here, gives Adelaide that big body in the midfield to work and in the short term it only increases the potency of that forward line. And while I'm personally not a big fan of Atley, he adds immediate depth and there is a spot in that starting midfield up for the taking. Noonan wasn't exactly a value pick at #45, but he has speed and enough to work with. And Hinge is a workmanlike defender who could easily find a role.
Grade: B-

Brisbane - Ben Ainsworth (3), Oliver Florent (16), Shai Bolton (22), Brandon Parfitt (23), Jacob Allison (67), Declan Watson (70)

Got lucky in my opinion to be able to match bids on Allison and Watson so late, costing them nothing. I still think Allison could receive a much earlier than expected bid. Otherwise, I love the first three picks. Straight away it looks like Brisbane will be 2-3 goals a game better off, and makes them so much more exciting. It's time they added some playmakers to the mix.
Grade: A

Carlton - Tim Taranto (5), Jordan Gallucci (27), Myles Poholke (49), Liam Baker (68), Jye Bolton (72), Tony Olango (76), Bailey Morrish (87)

Getting Gallucci and Poholke right at the bottom of their draft ranges is good value, even if I'm not sold on either two as prospects. But for me the draft is all about the first and last picks, with Morrish arguably the biggest bargain for mine. It's a good mix of midfielders and flankers, could they have pulled the pin on a KPP at #27? Maybe, what with the depth in talls quickly dropping away. Olango will be fun to develop though.
Grade: B-

Collingwood - Willem Drew (30), Ben Ronke (46), Lachlan Tiziani (52), Brodie Romensky (65), Brett Eddy (71)

I think if you ask anyone on BigFooty who Knightmare's personal favourites are this year, they'd be able to name these 5 players. It seemed like he went in with a plan, as opposed to looking for value at each pick. In the profiles, he's got the last four rated as late/rookie picks so it's hard to rate that highly. I do like Tiziani, I'd have drafted him last year. Otherwise, the choice to pass on Brown and Daicos is questionable.
Grade: D

Essendon - Andrew McGrath (1), Dylan Clarke (21), Jack Graham (32), Ben Long (43), Esava Ratugolea (74)

First surprise of the draft with McGrath going at #1, but it's a move I'm in favour of because few players offer what he does. Clarke and Graham are a little similar, with both having the same strengths and weaknesses, but they'll also both be able to contend in Round 1. Personally, I'd maybe have gone for a Cedric Cox or Shai Bolton at #21, knowing that Graham would be available later. Otherwise, Long offers some real talent and versatility.
Grade: B

Fremantle - Jarrod Berry (9), Josh Rotham (38), Josh Williams (42), Jack Henry (77), Kym LeBois (85)

Obviously I like my own draft. Berry and Williams were picked at the top of their ranges, but they fit perfectly what I was after. The Rotham pick was a bit of a surprise, I wasn't expecting him to be on the board. But him and Berry are different enough to be able to justify it. I could have gone for a more accomplished inside midfielder, but at the pick I think developing Henry was the value selection. And LeBois, well he's just exciting.
Grade: N/A

Geelong - Cedric Cox (26), Ryan Garthwaite (41), Josh Begley (44), Patrick Lipinski (69), Darcy Cameron (78), Judah Dundon (80), Tom Stewart (97)

I don't know if it was the plan going in, but Geelong certainly have one of the more ready made groups. Garthwaite and Stewart should come on quickly as defenders, and Begley could slot in at half forward reasonably early too. So with those picks, it means that projects like Lipinski and Dundon can be taken without too much of a worry. The complete lack of speed and agility is a problem for me with Cameron though.
Grade: B

Gold Coast - Sam Petrevski-Seton (4), Will Brodie (6), Jack Bowes (8), Tim English (11), Brad Scheer (24)

Not many teams had it easier than the Gold Coast, with so many top 10 picks. It's hard to really mark them down on anything. They got lucky with Bowes not receiving an earlier bid, being able to use their first two picks on the open pool would be a dream. And I think they got a perfect mix with SPS, Brodie and English. The go home factor is the only thing that could stop them finally making their move.
Grade: A

GWS - Hugh McCluggage (2), Will Setterfield (7), Harry Perryman (19), Kobe Mutch (31), Harrison Macreadie (39), Sam Walker (57), Isaac Cumming (59), Zac Sproule (60)

Again, GWS dominate the draft with multiple first rounders. I do think they'd prefer McGrath, but McCluggage is a decent backup. Otherwise, they didn't have many choices to make as they matched all the obvious bids. Getting Walker before Cumming and Sproule was a nice little bonus.
Grade: A

Hawthorn - Oscar McInerney (94), Harrison Burt (96)

They were never going to be able to make much of an impact on this draft, taking two picks when everyone else had already gone home for the night. At this point, it's pretty much taking your first pick of the rookies really. Both will need a few years to develop, and could go either way. McInerney wouldn't be my choice of developing ruckman, but Burt certainly has some tools as an outside midfielder.
Grade: C-

Melbourne - Patrick Kerr (48), Oscar Junker (75)

Coming in with just the two picks, I think Melbourne did just about as good as they could hope for. There are arguably only about 4 key forwards who will go in the national draft, and they managed to steal one at #48. Junker meanwhile is a good project player, 190cm and can play any position really. As a team, they got slower with these two picks but they also got better in my opinion.
Grade: B+

North Melbourne - Jack Scrimshaw (12), Josh Daicos (35), Zac Fisher (36), Louis Cunningham (93), Reece Piper (98)

Very much an offensive minded draft here, and one I think North Melbourne would be wise to employ in the real thing. Cunningham and Piper add some real run and skill to the half back line, while Scrimshaw does the same thing but in a completely different way. Daicos probably went at the top of his range, but it's a good fit nonetheless. And there's a definite spot in that midfield for a small ball magnet...Fisher could make it his own.
Grade: B

Port Adelaide - Todd Marshall (15), Jy Simpkin (17), Jonty Scharenberg (33), Matt Guelfi (34)

Smart money seems to have Marshall as one of the picks for Port in the first round, so it's no real surprise to see it happen here. I was hoping he'd cement himself at the top of the order, but he's still a worthy first round pick. Potentially could have waited until #17, knowing Brisbane wouldn't take him and then gone Florent over Simpkin. But that's splitting hairs. Bit early for Guelfi, but he and Scharenberg will add depth next year.
Grade: B-

Richmond - Jordan Ridley (29), Harry Morrison (58), Oliver Hanrahan (88)

The key to this draft will be where Ridley plays, if he develops as a defender or a midfielder. I personally think it'll be on the half back line. Otherwise, with him and the other two picks Richmond have put a focus on foot skills and that's not a bad move. Thought Morrison was a good value pick up. A player with some line breaking speed could have been another option, but they didn't really have the picks for that.
Grade: C+

St Kilda - Alex Witherden (25), Callum Brown (40), Corey Lyons (64), Tyson Stengle (92)

At 40, Brown was a good pick and would absolutely be matched in the real thing by Collingwood. Him and Billings could rotate nicely through half forward and midfield. And although St Kilda went pretty small with all their picks, they all offer a little something different. Witherden being good value because of injury, and Lyons offering someone who could compete in year one.
Grade: B-

Sydney - Griffin Logue (10), Luke Ryan (20), Elliot Himmelberg (47), Taylin Duman (50)

I think everyone just assumes that if he's there, then the Swans will take Logue with their first pick. And I wouldn't really be able to fault it. The same goes for Ryan, with nearly everyone mocking him to the Swans. I thought Himmelberg was a particularly good pick at #47, even if the Swans don't necessarily need to double up on key defenders. Duman would make for a nice project to work with, could play any number of roles.
Grade: B

Western Bulldogs - Will Hayward (18), Josh Battle (28), Jack Maibaum (51), Arie Sakeson (81)

Really looking to give as many options in that forward line as possible, the Bulldogs would be flushed with players now. Battle would be a good choice up there, he'd be the bridge between Boyd and the likes of Crameri/Stringer. But also giving the option of playing another 195cm+ forward with them too. Hayward just adds another avenue to goal, with midfield potential. He'd thrive at the Bulldogs I'm sure. While Maibaum provides cover for the possible departure of Adams.
Grade: A-

West Coast - Sam Powell-Pepper (13), Brennan Cox (37), Tom Williamson (54), Jake Waterman (55), Jeremy Goddard (100)

Some good value here with Cox, Williamson and Waterman in my opinion. I could make a strong case for all three going at least twenty spots higher. Cox in particular was a strong pick up here. And Powell-Pepper would be my pick for their first rounder too, I think Adelaide will be hoping the Eagles pass. I just think it's a good mix really. What SPP lacks, Williamson adds. And vice versa.
Grade: A

I agree with your rating of the Collingwood selections. They were poo sauce.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Just reviewing the latest podcast - Twomey and Ablett have done their best fit top 30 compared to the BF Phantom.

1. Hugh McCluggage - Essendon
2. Andrew McGrath - GWS
3. Jack Bowes - Gold Coast
4. Ben Ainsworth - Brisbane
5. Will Setterfield - GWS
6. Sam Petreski-Seaton - Carlton
7. Will Brodie - Gold Coast
8. Griffen Logue - Fremantle
9. Tim Taranto - Gold Coast
10. Jy Simpkin - Sydney
11. Tim English - Gold Coast
12. Harry Perryman - GWS
13. Jack Scrimshaw - North Melbourne
14. Jarrod Berry - West Coast
15. Will Hayward - Adelaide
16. Josh Battle - Port Adelaide
17. Oliver Florent - Brisbane
18. Alex Witherden - Port Adelaide
19. Todd Marshall - Bulldogs
20. Jordan Gallucci - Sydney
21. Sam Powell-Pepper - Essendon
22. Daniel Venables - Brisbane
23. Brendan Cox - Brisbane
24. Shai Bolton - Saints
25. Cedric Cox - Geelong
26. Patrick Kerr - Carlton
27. Isaac Cumming - GWS
28. Jordan Ridley - Bulldogs
29. Kobe Mutch - Richmond
30. Sam Walker - Collingwood

 

[serial_thrilla]

1. Hugh McCluggage - Essendon
2. Andrew McGrath - GWS
3. Jack Bowes - Gold Coast
4. Ben Ainsworth - Brisbane
5. Will Setterfield - GWS
6. Sam Petreski-Seaton - Carlton
7. Will Brodie - Gold Coast
8. Griffen Logue - Fremantle
9. Tim Taranto - Gold Coast
10. Jy Simpkin - Sydney
11. Tim English - Gold Coast
12. Harry Perryman - GWS
13. Jack Scrimshaw - North Melbourne
14. Jarrod Berry - West Coast
15. Will Hayward - Adelaide
16. Josh Battle - Port Adelaide
17. Oliver Florent - Brisbane
18. Alex Witherden - Port Adelaide
19. Todd Marshall - Bulldogs
20. Jordan Gallucci - Sydney
21. Sam Powell-Pepper - Essendon
22. Daniel Venables - Brisbane
23. Brendan Cox - Brisbane
24. Shai Bolton - Saints
25. Cedric Cox - Geelong
26. Patrick Kerr - Carlton
27. Isaac Cumming - GWS
28. Jordan Ridley - Bulldogs
29. Kobe Mutch - Richmond
30. Sam Walker - Collingwood

I'd be very disappointed if Freo went with Logue over Taranto or Berry with their first pick.

 

[Apex36]

1. Hugh McCluggage - Essendon
2. Andrew McGrath - GWS
3. Jack Bowes - Gold Coast
4. Ben Ainsworth - Brisbane
5. Will Setterfield - GWS
6. Sam Petreski-Seaton - Carlton
7. Will Brodie - Gold Coast
8. Griffen Logue - Fremantle
9. Tim Taranto - Gold Coast
10. Jy Simpkin - Sydney
11. Tim English - Gold Coast
12. Harry Perryman - GWS
13. Jack Scrimshaw - North Melbourne
14. Jarrod Berry - West Coast
15. Will Hayward - Adelaide
16. Josh Battle - Port Adelaide
17. Oliver Florent - Brisbane
18. Alex Witherden - Port Adelaide
19. Todd Marshall - Bulldogs
20. Jordan Gallucci - Sydney
21. Sam Powell-Pepper - Essendon
22. Daniel Venables - Brisbane
23. Brendan Cox - Brisbane
24. Shai Bolton - Saints
25. Cedric Cox - Geelong
26. Patrick Kerr - Carlton
27. Isaac Cumming - GWS
28. Jordan Ridley - Bulldogs
29. Kobe Mutch - Richmond
30. Sam Walker - Collingwood

How the phark is Walker best fit for the pies? Last thing we need is another half back flanker with Howe, Maynard, Langdon, Ramsay, Scharenberg and Sinclair already listed.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

1. Hugh McCluggage - Essendon
2. Andrew McGrath - GWS
3. Jack Bowes - Gold Coast
4. Ben Ainsworth - Brisbane
5. Will Setterfield - GWS
6. Sam Petreski-Seaton - Carlton
7. Will Brodie - Gold Coast
8. Griffen Logue - Fremantle
9. Tim Taranto - Gold Coast
10. Jy Simpkin - Sydney
11. Tim English - Gold Coast
12. Harry Perryman - GWS
13. Jack Scrimshaw - North Melbourne
14. Jarrod Berry - West Coast
15. Will Hayward - Adelaide
16. Josh Battle - Port Adelaide
17. Oliver Florent - Brisbane
18. Alex Witherden - Port Adelaide
19. Todd Marshall - Bulldogs
20. Jordan Gallucci - Sydney
21. Sam Powell-Pepper - Essendon
22. Daniel Venables - Brisbane
23. Brendan Cox - Brisbane
24. Shai Bolton - Saints
25. Cedric Cox - Geelong
26. Patrick Kerr - Carlton
27. Isaac Cumming - GWS
28. Jordan Ridley - Bulldogs
29. Kobe Mutch - Richmond
30. Sam Walker - Collingwood

Considering it's supposed to be a "best fit" draft, some very odd selections there for mine.

 

[missionpossible]

Carlton win this draft imo.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Carlton - Tim Taranto (5), Jordan Gallucci (27), Myles Poholke (49), Liam Baker (68), Jye Bolton (72), Tony Olango (76), Bailey Morrish (87)

Getting Gallucci and Poholke right at the bottom of their draft ranges is good value, even if I'm not sold on either two as prospects. But for me the draft is all about the first and last picks, with Morrish arguably the biggest bargain for mine. It's a good mix of midfielders and flankers, could they have pulled the pin on a KPP at #27? Maybe, what with the depth in talls quickly dropping away. Olango will be fun to develop though.
Grade: B-

I thought the Carlton draft was very solid and a nice combination of players that will complement our recruitment and trading the last two years.

Defenders - Marchbank, Plowman, Weitering
Forwards - Curnow, McKay, Sumner, Lamb
Rucks - Phillips, Gorringe
Midfielders - Kerridge, Cunningham

We've loaded up on tall defenders and a few solid forward options, but I felt like we needed to boost our midfield.
My main goal coming into this draft was to strengthen the midfield and I also like the concept of having dual position players. If a play can rotate through the forward line and midfield, it will be ideal.

Taranto - He was always my preferred target, so there was no shock in this selection. The other consideration was Brodie with this selection, was just worried that a combination of Cripps and Brodie was a little one dimensional and slowish. I also like what Taranto offers up forward and in the air.

Gallucci - I was strongly considering Kerr with this selection, but I am not completely sold on any of the forwards this year. With next year looking a little stronger for tall options and having picked two forwards last year, we could load up on midfielders.

Poholke - I was watching Kerr slip down the order and was very excited to only miss out by one selection. Selecting Myles here was a great pick up for me. I think he will play a little like Taranto and has the ability to move from the forward half into the midfield. I really like his hands on the inside and he is a little quicker than people give him credit. No real other considerations with this selection.

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Now I start selecting a little for needs and personal favourites.

Baker - Love his work in the forward line and I think he has the ability to drift into the midfield. Great kick and seems to be dual sided. Tough as they come and fearless for someone as short as he is. Going to really struggle to make it at AFL level, but Daniel has proved that height is not always an issue. Considered a multitude of other small forwards, mainly the two Adelaide boys.

Bolton - Carlton have lost a heap of bigger bodies and I think Bolton will provide some protection for the kids. Bolton was not ready in his first stint at AFL level. Had a massive year at WAFL level and produced the goods all season long. I was mainly considering Olango here for back up ruck purposes.

Olango - Roll the dice with this kid, you'd probably prefer him sitting on your rookie list for a few years to develop as he should not be a viable option for another 4-5 years.

Morrish - If this guy had a larger tank he would surely be going higher in the draft. Has speed to burn and uses his speed which is not always the case when someone is quick. Great kick of the ball and should replace Simpson in the coming years.

 

[pinot]

LemmingMaster you drafted well there mate - lets hope its more of the same in few days time.

 

[LemmingMaster]

LemmingMaster you drafted well there mate - lets hope its more of the same in few days time.

I think our first pick is locked into SPS, so it will be very interesting to see what later picks will be and hopefully we nail this draft.

 

[Clems Knee]

I think our first pick is locked into SPS, so it will be very interesting to see what later picks will be and hopefully we nail this draft.

Emma Quayle is suggesting that Carlton are seriously considering Will Hayward for their first pick.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Emma Quayle is suggesting that Carlton are seriously considering Will Hayward for their first pick.

There are a number of different sources all saying the same thing, but the loudest sounds are coming for SPS. Still this board may have to be prepared to hear Hayward called out come draft night.

 

[Balony_pony16]

Serves no purpose. Gold Coast will match anyway, and considering their 4 picks in the top 10, there is no benefit.

Not to mention - here's a player the Lions like, and he wants to join the Lions. But before we pick we'll bid on some other guy to make the first guy (Ainsworth) feel very wanted...

Only reason will be if we genuinely consider Bowes a superior prospect.

Im not actually sold on the GC matching on bowes as they could very well no match and take Ainsworth. Lions would want Ainsworth over Bowes so why risk it

 

[Butane]

Butane is this the greatest profile gif of all time.

hahahah yes.