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Black Diamond AFL Part 2
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keyboard_warrior
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its not all about you roger!!!! the players are pleased you have left, its the others they will miss
Am I missing something here. From the comments you are making I take you don't thing highly of Roger.
Didn't the BDAFL name him as the "Umpire of the year" for 2009?
There must be a lot of people who don't share your point of view.
In Sydney we have always regarded him from a technical perspective as a very good (all be it a bit robotic) umpire. The comment used to be when there was a new skill or technique to be learnt "the rest of us have to train to do, with Roger you just have to program him"
Didn't the BDAFL name him as the "Umpire of the year" for 2009?
There must be a lot of people who don't share your point of view.
In Sydney we have always regarded him from a technical perspective as a very good (all be it a bit robotic) umpire. The comment used to be when there was a new skill or technique to be learnt "the rest of us have to train to do, with Roger you just have to program him"
Duck Billyworth
Debutant
Haha - too true I don't think his style was well liked.
Borg retired? How old is he? Surley he could go again.
Perhaps the Duck will have to put the whistle to his bill next year!
Duck Billyworth
Debutant
Was chatting to an umpire of AFL Grand Final day and mentioned that Roger was leaving to coach the sydney umpires. He thought this was strange as there had been no mention of it and thought that there would be much better candidates already running around in Sydney. The conversation went along the lines of - why would Sydney hire someone who is so unliked by the unpires he has under his control in his current position?
The only umpires who don't like Roger Duck, are umpires who you now see doing club umpiring....
As a group, Roger is a pedantic person and we all didn't like that side of him from the fact we always had to umpire in a certain way (none of us followed the trend!), but in terms of his expectations, goals, passion and overall knowledge of umpiring, you could not find a better coach.
I hope he has gone to Sydney to be perfectly honest, because the BDAFL don't deserve his skills and talents.
I'd go with him if I didn't have to travel, and you will find that is why about 5 umpires (who I won't name) are leaving. If Roger leaves, they will leave.
The only umpires you'll get back are the ones who didn't think training, rule knowledge and dedication to the umpiring fraternity were important.
The attitude of the football community up in Newcastle / Central Coast is one where umpires are not part of the league and deserve to be treated like outcasts. We didn't want the headlines, we just wanted to be part of the group so it might help us with recruiting / people's overall knowledge.
We do well with the group we have and I now fear with the recent retirements and transfers, that the NCCUA will not have the numbers to fill all Cup games next year.
As they say, you don't know what you have got until it's gone.
On the bright side for you blokes, I heard 3-4 "Old Timers" are going to make a comeback following news of Roger's departure.
The clubs complained that the umpires didn't have "knowledge of the rules"(when free kicks didn't go your way), "fitness"(most of us could run a game) and the "overall standard of umpiring dropped" during Roger's time.
Absolute crap. During Roger's time:
-2 umpires umpired State Championships Grand Finals.
-1 umpire made the National Carnival, umpiring the Grand Final
-6 umpires are now on the Regional Umpiring Academy list.
-5 umpires have been targeted by the Sydney Football League for recruitment.
This would not have happened if Roger didn't coach. His knowledge, skills and ability to get the message across in his own way helped.
Good luck BDAFL!!! Thanks for the memories
keyboard_warrior
Team Captain
i hate roger
Duck Billyworth
Debutant
"-5 umpires have been targeted by the Sydney Football League for recruitment.
This would not have happened if Roger didn't coach. His knowledge, skills and ability to get the message across in his own way helped." - Borgsta 2006.
So by being a good coach he has done nothing to help the BDAFL because they are all the decent umpires are leaving to follow him.
Sounds like the BDAFL would have been better off without him considering umpires left the fraternity when he came along.
So net effect of Roger's time is that he produced good umpires who have no interest in umpiring in the BDAFL.
I've gotta shake this bloke's hand!
This would not have happened if Roger didn't coach. His knowledge, skills and ability to get the message across in his own way helped." - Borgsta 2006.
So by being a good coach he has done nothing to help the BDAFL because they are all the decent umpires are leaving to follow him.
Sounds like the BDAFL would have been better off without him considering umpires left the fraternity when he came along.
So net effect of Roger's time is that he produced good umpires who have no interest in umpiring in the BDAFL.
I've gotta shake this bloke's hand!
Yes you are right. Roger is unliked and really hated by the umpires up there!!
So unliked and hated that at the last general meeting of the Umpires Association the members voted to make him a Life Member.
Now that's the sort of thing you do with people you don't like
NOT!!
don't see too many other people willing AND able to take his place or those who have retired / left. we are also considered a pathway to the sydney afl by the NSW/ACT so unless there are heaps of people willing to do the job, then it is going to be struggle street for the BDAFL, I'm afraid to say.
People in glass houses.....
Sir Markalot
Debutant
Hey Borgsta this is a little off topic but in the 4th quarter of the grand final this year I saw a situation that I have never seen before. A player was awarded a free kick right on the boundary and it was paid downfield which is fine. The only strange thing regarding the free kick was the fact that the kick had grubbered from the boundary and stopped once players contested the ball in front of goal. My understanding of the downfield free kick rule is it is where the ball lands that a free kick will be paid. Im not sure which ump was responsible for this gaff but in the last quarter of a tight grand final it was a monumental stuff up in my opinion.
And it cost Cardiff the game?? Unless it did, I don't think it was that big an error. To correct you, the ball was kicked, a player was felled illegally and then the next thing was the ball landed after travelling about 15 - 20 metres in the goal square area. If it "grubbered" like you suggested, the free kick would have been brought back. It was Roger, and he got it right.
I could name many errors which occurred during the day by players on GF day, but being a respectful person like myself who is retired and couldn't give a stuff I'll keep it to myself.
Sir Markalot
Debutant
Cardiff cost themselves the game mate. If you watched the game your completely wrong on what happened in that bit of play, the ball grubbered and if you say it didnt than you are a liar plain and simple. The ball went along the ground at the most 10 meters. If it was Roger he got it wrong and the ball should have been brought back. That was a mistake that even an u/12's umpire wouldnt make. You wont admit it cause you know its true.
Also to all those whining about the likes of Roger leaving the BDAFL. I say thank god and about time. Fairdinkum they cant even take the slightest bit of critisism. I reckon club umpires will do a better job than talentless umpires who cant admit to mistakes.
keyboard_warrior
Team Captain
This entire statement basically sums up the reason for retirement. If your clubbies can do better than what I can do, good luck to them!
im underoath
Rookie
I played at down in sydney this year and I was very impressed with the umpires we were given on 14 out of 18 rounds this season. I've found Roger to interfere to much with the game playing 1st grade on the coast and unless he changes that he will be more of a liability to Sydney AFL.
Umpires have to let swearing go. Roger would be making a mockery of AFL everytime someone swore at a First grade level in Sydney as the level is of higher standard their is more passion and incentives among players to perform well.
sexualninja
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There should be definate concern re the umpiring situation. Admittedly I didnt really have much to do with Roger but regardless of how much he "interferred" with the game I'd rather have somebody protecting the bloke with his head over the ball.
Unfortunately with club umpires this doesnt always happen.
Personally I would prefer to have a decision go against me given by an official neutral umpire that is willing to protect the playing going for the ball then a club umpire that "may" be a bit lenient at times.
...On another note. RIP Billy Best. A true character. We'll miss you mate.
Unfortunately with club umpires this doesnt always happen.
Personally I would prefer to have a decision go against me given by an official neutral umpire that is willing to protect the playing going for the ball then a club umpire that "may" be a bit lenient at times.
...On another note. RIP Billy Best. A true character. We'll miss you mate.
Interstate
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Can you believe this sh$% ... do the bdafl think people are not busy ...
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Now is no time to sit on your hands.
This was the stark warning from the league General Manager, Scott Ledwidge (photographed), this week.
He was fresh from reviewing the returns for the club meetings with the Board, the first of which were supposed to occur tonight, but had to be abandoned because of a poor response.
"The trouble is that people in clubs tend to go to sleep at this time of the year and it is now that they should be planning and working on how they can better perform both on and off the field next year" Ledwidge said.
"Each year we review the league's rules and management system in an effort to improve the competition. We may not get it right all the time but for the most part the next year is better than the former."
"Clubs should be looking at their committee makeup, by-laws as well as coaching and recruitment. Things don't happen by themselves you have to make things happen."
These are wise words from Ledwidge
who has put a power of effort into securing a bright future for the BDAFL after a poor 2008.
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Now is no time to sit on your hands.
This was the stark warning from the league General Manager, Scott Ledwidge (photographed), this week.
He was fresh from reviewing the returns for the club meetings with the Board, the first of which were supposed to occur tonight, but had to be abandoned because of a poor response.
"The trouble is that people in clubs tend to go to sleep
at this time of the year and it is now that they should be planning and working on how they can better perform both on and off the field next year" Ledwidge said. "Each year we review the league's rules and management system in an effort to improve the competition. We may not get it right all the time
but for the most part the next year is better than the former." "Clubs should be looking at their committee makeup, by-laws as well as coaching and recruitment. Things don't happen by themselves you have to make things happen.
" These are wise words from Ledwidge
who has put a power of effort into securing a bright future for the BDAFL after a poor 2008.*****
FootyHead23
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Am I right in saying he is actually sitting on his hands in the picture?
I heard that Dietzy missed out on the Warners Bay job can anyone confirm? and who was appointed? whats dietzy's thoughts? be pretty disapointed he has put in a fair amount of work since going to the bay, i would have thought they would keep on building on what they had rather then turn the joint up side down and go again.
Who'd you hear that from?
Na, mate, can't confirm that because its not true. As far as I know the coach at WB hasn't been chosen yet but I'd be very surprised if there have been any other applicants than Deitzy at this stage.
You're right in saying that Deitzy has put in a lot of work........being involved with the 18's last year and then taking the ressies to a GF appearance this year are a sign of his commitment to footy and to the club. I think it would have to be a hell of a good applicant to get the job over Deitzy........the sort of applicant that even Deitzy would give his blessing to if he came along.............don't think that sort of applicant will appear at Warners Bay, though!
keyboard_warrior
Team Captain
bingo peter
Debutant
The only umpires who don't like Roger Duck, are umpires who you now see doing club umpiring....
As a group, Roger is a pedantic person and we all didn't like that side of him from the fact we always had to umpire in a certain way (none of us followed the trend!), but in terms of his expectations, goals, passion and overall knowledge of umpiring, you could not find a better coach.
I hope he has gone to Sydney to be perfectly honest, because the BDAFL don't deserve his skills and talents.
I'd go with him if I didn't have to travel, and you will find that is why about 5 umpires (who I won't name) are leaving. If Roger leaves, they will leave.
The only umpires you'll get back are the ones who didn't think training, rule knowledge and dedication to the umpiring fraternity were important.
The attitude of the football community up in Newcastle / Central Coast is one where umpires are not part of the league and deserve to be treated like outcasts. We didn't want the headlines, we just wanted to be part of the group so it might help us with recruiting / people's overall knowledge.
We do well with the group we have and I now fear with the recent retirements and transfers, that the NCCUA will not have the numbers to fill all Cup games next year.
As they say, you don't know what you have got until it's gone.
On the bright side for you blokes, I heard 3-4 "Old Timers" are going to make a comeback following news of Roger's departure.
The clubs complained that the umpires didn't have "knowledge of the rules"(when free kicks didn't go your way), "fitness"(most of us could run a game) and the "overall standard of umpiring dropped" during Roger's time.
Absolute crap. During Roger's time:
-2 umpires umpired State Championships Grand Finals.
-1 umpire made the National Carnival, umpiring the Grand Final
-6 umpires are now on the Regional Umpiring Academy list.
-5 umpires have been targeted by the Sydney Football League for recruitment.
This would not have happened if Roger didn't coach. His knowledge, skills and ability to get the message across in his own way helped.
Good luck BDAFL!!! Thanks for the memories
agre with your comments biorsta and it sickens me that people are willing tio talk the smack on the mesaage boards but not willing tio put their hand up in an umpire crisis, allwys the first ones to pointthe blame blah blah have a cry when thry diont get enough B&F points to justufyin there efforts etc.
No doubt thte same people wh laughed at me when i suggested a scholarship scheme for local umps similar to the afl team schemes that they have in place. and you know whos [partyl too blame? Not roger, not lewdwidge, hell not even deitzy.
Thats bloody Garry Burkinshaw when he was in charge he saw this coming and sat back and dint lift a finger. i was at thtat morriset place a few years Back and suggestesf the scheme where I was willing to part fund it and his exact words were along the lines of “f*ck of champ. Look we appreciate the funding we receive from you and your family but we are looking to promote young talented footballser. The umpiring will take care of its self "
deadset goose and i could have knocjed him flat at the time but knew tht it wouldnt help.
So before you all go blaming all and sundry look to the past to discover where the sins of the future lay
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