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Maybe the league needs to revisit the idea of putting the rep team into the Sydney 1st grade comp. it would definably lower the standard of weekly games but it would make the comp alot more balanced.

i like the sounds of this idea but will there be the same problem with picking a team every week as we do for picking one a year?
 
Mergers are always an option, but no club wants to fold-losing by hundreds every week and playing 2 games isnt much fun either!!

How about the idea of 3 senior divisions eg:

Black Diamond2nd Div3rd DivCardiffNelson BayTerrigal resCitySingletonLake Macquarie resWarnersWoy WoyWyong resKillarneyCardiff resCardiff 3rdsTerrigalCity resCity 3rdsGosfordWarners ResNelson Bay resLake MacquarieKillarney ResSingleton resWyongGosford ResWarners or Killarney 3rds

Relegation from BD to 2nd Div and 2nd div to 3rd div.
2nd div, third div and U18s reduced to 16 per side with up to 6 on the bench. Would make it easier for weaker clubs to field teams and reduce backing up by 18s and ressies. I also think it would make the competition more even.
I don't think too many players would be keen on being loaned out so thisd could be an option.
Thoughts?
 
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Black diamond: CardiffCityWarnersKillarneyTerrigalGosfordLake MacquarieWyong

2nd DivNelson BaySingletonWoy WoyCardiff resCity resWarners ResKillarney ResGosford Res

3rd DivTerrigal resLake Macquarie resWyong resCardiff 3rdsCity 3rdsNelson Bay resSingleton resWarners or Killarney 3rds
 

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Black diamond: CardiffCityWarnersKillarneyTerrigalGosfordLake MacquarieWyong

2nd DivNelson BaySingletonWoy WoyCardiff resCity resWarners ResKillarney ResGosford Res

3rd DivTerrigal resLake Macquarie resWyong resCardiff 3rdsCity 3rdsNelson Bay resSingleton resWarners or Killarney 3rds


Good idea but I think clubs struggle enough to get numbers. The clubs that do have enough numbers to have a team in each division ie Cardiff, City, Warners and Killarney will still continue to do well and make it harder for clubs that don't have enough numbers to have a side in each division.
 
This doesnt solve the epidemic of making the league more equal.. but, what about a preseason comp? where the top 2 or 3 finishing clubs from the BDAFL enter a preseason comp consisting of sydney area teams and the 2 or 3 clubs of bdafl.

it would give clubs something to strive for if first place is out of reach. so it may increase the level of footy from the 4th and 5th place teams etc.

opinions?
 
some worthy suggestions here but i cant see any drastic changes being made - the clubs really struggled splitting resources when 1st and 2nd grade played at different venues so i cant see much support for a 3rd grade-
There will always be floggings and i think the crows have down a great job this season, come thiis time of year was always going to test them in their 1st year in senior grade. I think they have a brightest future of the bottom four
I remember the bombers getting spanked by 40 odd goals by cardiff in 2006- 14 months later they won a flag while cardiff watched.

A weeks a long time in Football - 2 -3 years can see some serious change of personel and management, who knows an unhappy player or coach could well make the trip to the crows next year and bring a few with him.
 
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Black diamond: CardiffCityWarnersKillarneyTerrigalGosfordLake MacquarieWyong

2nd DivNelson BaySingletonWoy WoyCardiff resCity resWarners ResKillarney ResGosford Res

3rd DivTerrigal resLake Macquarie resWyong resCardiff 3rdsCity 3rdsNelson Bay resSingleton resWarners or Killarney 3rds

Like the idea Merk, there may be some stretching of player numbers for the teams with 3rd's but they are the stronger clubs and i beleive they could do it!!!;)

At my current club we nearly forfeited on the weekend and i truly believe that city,cardiff and prob the bombers and warners 2's could currently compete and prob beat Nelsons,Crows and Wyong 1st grades!!!

Like the idea of promotion/relegation and if City end up with 2 Black diamond teams then so be it.

Currently we have new/young or very old! ie my team up agaist very well drilled experienced teams not much fun for either team!!!

I had 6 blokes marking me and was only 1 in the forward 50- not even a training run for the opponents!!

Pre season idea i think is good prob only issue being available grounds?
On the coast we cant even train so games have to be up newcastle way
Any other thoughts?:)
 
some worthy suggestions here but i cant see any drastic changes being made - the clubs really struggled splitting resources when 1st and 2nd grade played at different venues so i cant see much support for a 3rd grade-
There will always be floggings and i think the crows have down a great job this season, come thiis time of year was always going to test them in their 1st year in senior grade. I think they have a brightest future of the bottom four
I remember the bombers getting spanked by 40 odd goals by cardiff in 2006- 14 months later they won a flag while cardiff watched.

A weeks a long time in Football - 2 -3 years can see some serious change of personel and management, who knows an unhappy player or coach could well make the trip to the crows next year and bring a few with him.

Agree 2CENTS, prob nothing will be done and it was a pain having teams split at different venues!!
Yeah i was part of the Bombers teams that got belted!! but KV always go up and down 1 year GF next down the bottom then premiers etc I for 1 also beleive the crows have the best future but unlike the bombers 'hired' help i believe they will and are already starting to come from City and Cardiff- blokes who can no longer get a game at those clubs, omly prob being that the very reason they are leaving is they are not as good as the players they will be up against!!!;)

This usually leads to a 'dont need to train still get a game mentality' and the club unfortunatly still dosent get any stronger!!!
Dont get me wrong, I hope they do succeed i just believe the top clubs will stay at the top!!:D
 
The challenge for AFL in our area is to retain and grow a membership and support base in our region. As we are all so parochial when clubs fold only a minority migrate to other clubs, and even less supporters. Wests/ Wallsend in 2000 had 80-100 listed players, so maybe 2-300 local people with an interest in AFL to differing degrees. Of that number I'd say less than a third remain involved. With lower divisions/ less infrastructure and costs they may have kept on long enough to turn the corner. Woy Woy probably similar.

In my humble opinion the BDAFL should put all its energies into ensuring the long term viability of each of our clubs.

The more the merrier
 
Without doubt the gap between the top and the bottom is the biggest issue the league has in my opinion. At the end of the day but, I dont think it is fair that the clubs up the top get punished for being successful.
Clubs like Cardiff and City have plenty of local juniors in their sides and are reaping the benefits of this.
The only way I can see clubs coming up to scratch is by development of their local juniors. Clubs with feeder clubs eg. Gosford/Niagara Park, Wyong/Nothern Power etc, should be sending their senior players to those clubs for training sessions and the like so that the players and parents there can see the pathway to senior footy as well, and the kids at those clubs arent lost to the game at 15/16 years of age.
In regards to recruitment, in a league where 99.9% of blokes pay to play, guys coming to the region are obviously going to be drawn to successful clubs. What the clubs down the lower end of the ladder need to do is get proactive, start sending emails/making phone calls around the country to footy leagues/clubs NOW to let people know that the club exists, what a good area it is to live in and that it isnt too bad a standard of footy. Clubs who might be able to find people work or accomodation obviously should be out there now putting the feelers out and seeing if they can get any bites for next year.
Just a thought, but it doesnt cost anything to send emails out advertising the club/region so if someone at a footy club was proactive it could be a decent recruiting tool.
 
Massive score by Cardiff but not in the league of big scores,up there for this atate though. I think the record in this state was UNSW Reserves 87.49-535 to Blacktown 0.1-1, full forward kicked 30 odd for memory, back in 95, Blacktown merged with Holroyd-Parramatta..
Full list is at footypedia.com
For the record, i saw the score and said to my housemate, ' i bet Mickey Ryan kicked 15' so i was pretty close!!!
 
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Oh the children are out again.

For the adults, any thoughts yet on this weeks games. Winners, losers upsets?

Not much happening in the big world of AFL this weekend so we have to rely on our league to get our fix.
 
Oh the children are out again.

For the adults, any thoughts yet on this weeks games. Winners, losers upsets?

Not much happening in the big world of AFL this weekend so we have to rely on our league to get our fix.

Yep - the Melbourne golf course will be crowded this weekend :)

No footy south of the border this weekend - what will they do with themselves?
 
Oh the children are out again.

For the adults, any thoughts yet on this weeks games. Winners, losers upsets?

Not much happening in the big world of AFL this weekend so we have to rely on our league to get our fix.

Definately no upsets that I can see think we got a good 1 last week with Terrigal over Warners

Cardiff V Terrigal... The Panthers had their game last week and too inconsistent, up and down, would love to see them challenge but not gonna happen
Cardiff by enough

Wyong V Killarney... Walking wounded at Wyong but again even at best only competitive for a quarter
Killarney by a lot

City V Nelsons... Really like Nelsons-as a good bunch of blokes, holdong it together and even grabing a win but realistically City 2's or even a 3rd's would get the money
City with scoreboard working overtime

Macqaurie V Warners... Feel for the crows long season huge step up, know how they feel we won the 18's ,and the 2's back to back and still cant compete. Should be better than last week and hope for them they get some bodies back as i noticed alot of 'better' players absent
Warners by bout half of Cardiffs score

Oh and Gosford over the Roosters with the margin depending on how many 1's play. Killarney had a half dozen Rep players last week and they allready on top of the comp!!!:D
 
Definately no upsets that I can see think we got a good 1 last week with Terrigal over Warners

Cardiff V Terrigal... The Panthers had their game last week and too inconsistent, up and down, would love to see them challenge but not gonna happen
Cardiff by enough

Wyong V Killarney... Walking wounded at Wyong but again even at best only competitive for a quarter
Killarney by a lot

City V Nelsons... Really like Nelsons-as a good bunch of blokes, holdong it together and even grabing a win but realistically City 2's or even a 3rd's would get the money
City with scoreboard working overtime

Macqaurie V Warners... Feel for the crows long season huge step up, know how they feel we won the 18's ,and the 2's back to back and still cant compete. Should be better than last week and hope for them they get some bodies back as i noticed alot of 'better' players absent
Warners by bout half of Cardiffs score

Oh and Gosford over the Roosters with the margin depending on how many 1's play. Killarney had a half dozen Rep players last week and they allready on top of the comp!!!:D

Just an obsrevation K/V played some players that havent had much footy maybe there getting there list in shape for finals. I wouldnt right them off Cutler will have something up his sleeve.
 
Oh the children are out again.

For the adults, any thoughts yet on this weeks games. Winners, losers upsets?

Not much happening in the big world of AFL this weekend so we have to rely on our league to get our fix.

Judging by the draw it seems as though the winners list will be fairly predictable, it will just be a matter of how much but Terrigal always seem to lift against the Hawks.
Obviously the crows had quite a few players out against Cardiff that allowed the scoreline to blow out a little lets hope they dig deep and put up a better performance this week. I will try not to detract too much from Cardiffs performance but with the amount of players the Crows had out a number of top teams could have kicked that score.
Cardiff are definately the team to beat at the moment but a few sides are building nicely and now that the door has been left ajar by Warners there may be a late charge by the Tigers into the final 4.
But as I said the results will be Predictable
Cardiff by 50
Kilarney by 150
City by 250
Warners by 300
Gosfords 1 1/2 grade vs Singleton
Gosford by 75
 
"Cardiff are definately the team to beat at the moment but a few sides are building nicely and now that the door has been left ajar by Warners there may be a late charge by the Tigers into the final 4. "

Nice one stripes- Gosford are a huge chance to slip into the four with a late charge of victories over sides above them on the ladder and Warners or killarney getting lost on the way to Nelson bay or Lake Maq-

Keep the dream alive Tigers but most of the posters on this site are over hearing about it, - i think someone started a forum a few weeks back for you guys to tell each other how your on the cusp of success-

Feel free to let me know when you make the 4..
 
Saturday was a pretty sad day for footy in the area. Closest margin of 120 points, a 220 point win and two 250+ point wins. Not the greatest day in BDAFL history.
 
YES a VERY BLACK AND BLEAK ROUND with results like these.

Spare a thought for the goal umpires. The BDAFL will have claimes for RSI. The poor Boundary umps must be sick of running all those goals back.

I heared the other day that Roy Reichert has made a bid for the Umpires Coach role in 2009. I understand the NCCUA is not all that happy about that idea.

One comment was "with his attitude towards fitness, in 2009 we will all look like tele-tubbies". That said, the BDAFL will save money. There will be no need for a fitness coach!!

Something tells me this would be a very backward step.
 
Saturday was a pretty sad day for footy in the area. Closest margin of 120 points, a 220 point win and two 250+ point wins. Not the greatest day in BDAFL history.

Agree mate, and this week looks pretty much the same!!!

Killarney V Macquarie... 200+

Cardiff V Wyong... 300?

Terrigal V Nelsons... 200+

City V Gosford... prob the closest but City run away in the 2nd half

Warners V Bye... Changed my mind this closest game as scores withheld:D
 
YES a VERY BLACK AND BLEAK ROUND with results like these.

Spare a thought for the goal umpires. The BDAFL will have claimes for RSI. The poor Boundary umps must be sick of running all those goals back.

I heared the other day that Roy Reichert has made a bid for the Umpires Coach role in 2009. I understand the NCCUA is not all that happy about that idea.

One comment was "with his attitude towards fitness, in 2009 we will all look like tele-tubbies". That said, the BDAFL will save money. There will be no need for a fitness coach!!

Something tells me this would be a very backward step.

Yeah I think the comp is almost non existant!!!
On a positive for the umpires at least there is no presure and they cant get blamed or make game deciding errors!!!

I just hope some 1 out there has a quick fix, cos it needs to be fixed and quick!!:(
 
YES a VERY BLACK AND BLEAK ROUND with results like these.

Spare a thought for the goal umpires. The BDAFL will have claimes for RSI. The poor Boundary umps must be sick of running all those goals back.

I heared the other day that Roy Reichert has made a bid for the Umpires Coach role in 2009. I understand the NCCUA is not all that happy about that idea.

One comment was "with his attitude towards fitness, in 2009 we will all look like tele-tubbies". That said, the BDAFL will save money. There will be no need for a fitness coach!!

Something tells me this would be a very backward step.



Forget the personal abuse guys, probably more the concern is the fact he is a current Cardiff board member and life member of the Cardiff club.

Not questioning his impartiality, but why does it seem that decisions that are made always leave the door open for future controversy.

The scores show the Umpiring isn't the leagues most pressing problem.
 
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