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It is considered blocking when you aren't looking at the ball...
Umpiring Blicavs blocking in the ruck
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Typical Chris Scott/Geelong attitude, it's everyone else who is wrong.
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With Steve Hocking at the helm that was definitely the case.
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This is a textbook block.
At least he uses a run and jump technique this time, but...
No eyes on the ball - doesn't make contesting the ball his sole objective.
Runs under the drop of the ball and only looks for it after establishing body contact.
Reaches back to try and get the tap at the last second, but completely misses the ball.
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What about the top video in the OP? What's your read on that one?
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You had to wait until he's made contact with Meek to get that shot. Brilliant.
That one should have/would have been a free against Geelong for blocking, right up until the time the Hawks ruckman tried to knee him in the guts too. Thanks for the vision STPer18
TBH, it was simply the same screen shot I'd used earlier to show the point of impact.
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Bliclavs has never tried to ruck in a CBB and has gotten away with cheating since he was made into a faux ruck - extra mid.
The fact that Blicavs has engaged his opponent without jumping, with the ball still at the top of the bounce means it is a clear blocking free. Both feet are firmly planted. Ruckmen are separated at CBs to allow them to jump at the ball. Hopefully in future games umpires will penalize the Cats rucks early and repeatedly to prevent them from getting injured.
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Without the block, there is no knee. The block comes first and is what should have been called.
This is as close as I could get these two angles to be at the same frame. The tight angle is deceptive to the ball position and the Hawks ruck trying to get a jump at the ball.
The wide angle shows how far Cats ruck has come past the ball drop, with no intention to jump and just body up on the Hawks.
Meanwhile, Hawks ruck is still in his run up zone, getting ready to launch AT the footy.
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I do have to admit that the Scott brothers are brilliant at using the media to pick issues that will help their team
Wowee Geelong supporters are struggling in here big time.
Right - stepping over that centre line - that's cheating. Got it.
So much jealousy and hatred for the Blitz. Truly baffling.
It's very hard to reconcile that image with this one. Particularly in regard to the position of the ball. Your image (above) shows it going straight up, but my image (below) shows it right over the players and heading towards a position BEHIND Meeks.
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Different contest, different Hawk ruck
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Scott was on 360 having a personal attack on TDK for a similar occurrence against Stanley- clearly both fake Geelong rucks have been gaming the system forever - maybe another coach should tell Scott to instruct his rucks to actually try and tap a ball instead of just shoving into the opposition ruckman at every bounce...
Geelong 'entitlement syndrome'
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Stanley copped a knee into his ribs against Carlton and Scott went moaning on about it on AFL360 teh official Geelong TV channel - for doing the same thing - just charging at TDK and bodying not even trying to jump.
Play a ruckman instead of two runners and stop trying to game every aspect of the rules all the time.
That would explain it. Thank you.
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Are the Hawks challenging the fine or have they accepted the punishment?
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Not even the same contest.
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If I'm the opposition captain, I'm going to the umpires before the game, and stating watch the Geelong rucks, they're not jumping at Centre Bounces, and not looking at the ball until point of engagement. If I'm an opposition coach, I'm going to the umpiring department that week if I'm playing Geelong.
Chris Scott is outstanding at using the media, and he is a fantastic media performer. He's clearly the best media performer of the 18 coaches, hands down. He has done a great job at establishing the narrative here.
In reality, you cannot argue it's ok to knee someone. It's just not. Even if you're doing it to stop tactics where the umpire should be paying a free kick against a ruck dead set (on many occasions) against a ruck contest, and unwilling to jump for the ball.
Chris Scott is outstanding at using the media, and he is a fantastic media performer. He's clearly the best media performer of the 18 coaches, hands down. He has done a great job at establishing the narrative here.
In reality, you cannot argue it's ok to knee someone. It's just not. Even if you're doing it to stop tactics where the umpire should be paying a free kick against a ruck dead set (on many occasions) against a ruck contest, and unwilling to jump for the ball.
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It's an obvious block, and therefore a free kick to Hawthorn, Meek did nothing wrong.
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