Injury Blue Healers Discussion - 2024

[Aphrodite]

Latest Injury Update 3rd September …

AFL injury news: Seven facing tests

Updates leading into the elimination final.

www.carltonfc.com.au

UPDATES on 12 Blues ahead of this week's elimination final:-

Sam Docherty (knee)
- Available for selection this week

Charlie Curnow (ankle)
- Availability: test

Harry McKay (quad)
- Availability: test

Mitch McGovern (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Jack Martin (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Adam Cerra (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Zac Williams (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Tom De Koning (foot)
- Availability: test

Jordan Boyd (adductor)

• Completing his running program
• Availability: TBC

Sam Durdin (calf)
- Availability: 2-3 weeks

Hudson O’Keeffe (hamstring)

• Returned to full training
• Availability: 1-2 weeks

Caleb Marchbank (concussion)

• Continues to be monitored and a further update will be provided as he progresses
• Availability: TBC

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Rumours are Marchbank and Cuningham are already gone. We really need to clear out our playing list of permanently injured players.

I could see Marchbank and Cuningham being joined by Jack Martin

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Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

seeking a trade, Fantasia getting paid out a year early on his deal and Sam Durdin

38

Sam Durdin

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

6.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

being delisted.

Zach Williams too good to go and we would need to manage his fitness better.

Hopefully that helps our perpetual injury list.

 

[kreuze_missile]

Whoa

 

[kreuze_missile]

Rumours are Marchbank and Cuningham are already gone. We really need to clear out our playing list of permanently injured players.

I could see Marchbank and Cuningham being joined by Jack Martin seeking a trade, Fantasia getting paid out a year early on his deal and Sam Durdin being delisted.

Zach Williams too good to go and we would need to manage his fitness better.

Hopefully that helps our perpetual injury list.

Your post needs more Cottrell and Cerra.

TDK seemingly can't play #1 ruck for more than half a year either.

And Walsh has been playing half fit for 3 years. Has the spine of a 60 year old.

 

[Bell Ringer]

Rumours are Marchbank and Cuningham are already gone. We really need to clear out our playing list of permanently injured players.

I could see Marchbank and Cuningham being joined by Jack Martin seeking a trade, Fantasia getting paid out a year early on his deal and Sam Durdin being delisted.

Zach Williams too good to go and we would need to manage his fitness better.

Hopefully that helps our perpetual injury list.

I'd like to see Zac shed some kgs. Has looked heavy ever since he joined us.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Your post needs more Cottrell and Cerra.

TDK seemingly can't play #1 ruck for more than half a year either.

And Walsh has been playing half fit for 3 years. Has the spine of a 60 year old.

I just don't want to admit to myself that those are part of the problem

 

[bradfisher14]

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Whoa

I've read shorter Russian novels ffs.

 

[jj1978]

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Whoa

The scary thing about that compared to other teams injury list is that all bar 1 maybe 2 (O'Keefe, Fantasia) of those players lay claims to being best 23 when fit.

 

[Stamos]

B: Boyd, S Durdin,
HB: Saad, Marchbank, M Carroll
C: Cottrell, Cerra, Fantasia
HF: Fogarty, McKay, Silvagni
F: O'Keefe, Curnow, Martin
Foll: TDK, Docherty, Cuningham

 

[Zlatan]

B: Boyd, S Durdin,
HB: Saad, Marchbank, M Carroll
C: Cottrell, Cerra, Fantasia
HF: Fogarty, McKay, Silvagni
F: O'Keefe, Curnow, Martin
Foll: TDK, Docherty, Cuningham

Don’t think this team would make it out onto the park after half time tbh

 

[jj1978]

And we all know we probably have another injury set in stone any moment with Williams. Would they even risk letting him train this week?

 

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[Gw2_James]

I reckon we could carry two injury prone best 22 players in McGovern and Williams, but to try carry Cuningham, Marchbank and Martin too?? That's absolutely crazy!

Bring back Doch and Sos, remove Cuningham, Marchbank and Martin, bring in 3 to replace them and you'll see we'll have a much much better year.

 

[Jimmae]

With an eye-popping 17 on the official injury list released on the AFL app article, Carlton have by far the most players out with some teams like Adelaide having just 5 out. Brisbane have 11 out.

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Hopefully next year we get a better balance for high performance. 17 out is going to kill any team. What’s even more damning is how many of our on field players are actually carrying lower grade injuries (suspect Walsh and Weiters to name two). I think the last 6 weeks may have been an accumulation of injuries, evident and hidden, and it’s just reached a critical mass now where we have imploded.

You do realise that Russell in no way oversees the physio and medical departments, right?

Rumours are Marchbank and Cuningham are already gone. We really need to clear out our playing list of permanently injured players.

I could see Marchbank and Cuningham being joined by Jack Martin seeking a trade, Fantasia getting paid out a year early on his deal and Sam Durdin being delisted.

Zach Williams too good to go and we would need to manage his fitness better.

Hopefully that helps our perpetual injury list.

I'm with you for all of this, right up until suggesting we dump Fantasia, who must be on a fairly humble salary.

In fact, I've been saying most of this for multiple years. It's nice to see everyone else finally joining the discussion about how we play football and how we rotate players. I don't even blame Russell to any great extent, I blame recruitment, medical, and coaching.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

As crazy as it sounds, next week still might not be a dead rubber, even if we lose to the Eagles.
If Freo lose to the Giants in Sydney this week, our game against the Saints will be live.

It's time to play the fringe players, test them out, sort out who's tradeable and aim for some decent draft picks.

This decimated team ain't going deep into finals this season.

 

[Aphrodite]

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[Stamos]

This decimated team ain't going deep into finals this season.

Oh, I definitely agree.
I wouldn't risk any injured players, and I doubt we'll win either game.

I was just making the point that if Freo lose to Giants in Sydney, our game against the Saints will be live.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Oh, I definitely agree.
I wouldn't risk any injured players, and I doubt we'll win either game.

I was just making the point that if Freo lose to Giants in Sydney, our game against the Saints will be live.

Exactly and playing banged up player's like Walsh and Acres in the next two games makes zero sense to me.

Such is their quality and importance to us, they really should be put in mothballs now imo.

Play the kid's, give them a taste. Vossy needs to get past his mantra of "Just get the **** out their and play, show some toughness".

 

[Dramoth]

Worst I have ever seen

You forget 2012. How many did we have left to select from halfway through the season? 25?

 

[bigblueboy]

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Let’s look for the positives here - it’s due for the next decline.

 

[DangerousD]

I reckon we could carry two injury prone best 22 players in McGovern and Williams, but to try carry Cuningham, Marchbank and Martin too?? That's absolutely crazy!

Bring back Doch and Sos, remove Cuningham, Marchbank and Martin, bring in 3 to replace them and you'll see we'll have a much much better year.

Doc, SOS and Fog are all injury prone players too.

 

[JJBagger]

Doc, SOS and Fog are all injury prone players too.

Fog isn’t injury prone. None of his injuries are recurring

 

[RedFury]

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Whoa

We are only 1 injury off fielding a fully injured team!

 

[Kruezing]

We are only 1 injury off fielding a fully injured team!

I’m sure we can achieve this plus a full bench and sub … hang in there …

 

[Opium]

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[windows1]

IIRC there were reports here that he was in a boot for a bit.

However, I can't tell you one way or the other that it wasn't.

I hate my post. I just want an honest club.

He did a lot of the preseason. At times during the preseason I felt he was kore
Powerful and faster than ever. I don’t believe he carried anything through the summer.