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Owies has kicked 3 goals in a game 6 times this year.
For a small crumber, thatās decent.
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The logic around JSOS playing back is just common sense for various reasons. Sure, that (b/c his Dad did) isn't at the top of the list. But:The logic around JSOS playing back because his dad was a full back amazes me.
It's like saying Mia Fevola should play Full Forward because her dad did.
More trades like Blacres, Hewett please..... guys who are best 22 at current club but are getting squeezed out by salary cap/team balance. (Elijah Hollands trade also a masterstroke, but we got lucky there on price).
None of this 2 x firsts rubbish. Players rarely end up worth the price.... Especially not for a 27yo. That's what free agency is for.
Basically saying we wonāt entertain the two first round picks wanted by Port, particularly with our picks tied up with the Camporeale twins.
it then suggests that Blues might attempt to use an early pick before matching a bid on the Camporealeās, but we wonāt give away current and 2025 first-rounders for a player who will be 28 next year.
In regards to Owies, that we are keeping options open and holding off on a contract offer for now.
Owies has kicked 3 goals in a game 6 times this year.
For a small crumber, thatās decent.
way more than decent...Owies has kicked 3 goals in a game 6 times this year.
For a small crumber, thatās decent.
Given up a first rounder and second rounder is way overs in my opinion given his age. Bailey Smith at 23 is looking at a mid first rounder to get a deal done. I'd prefer to target Miles Bergman.Houston to me is a big yes. Not for 2x firsts, he's a HBF who averages 23 touches the last 3 yrs and 20 for his career. He's an elite, elite kick so that's his value, but flankers who average low 20s don't get 2x firsts. Especially flankers in their late 20s.
I'd do 1x first & future 2nd for Houston and a future 3rd. Given we have some NGA stuff going on next yr the swap of 2nd for 3rd round picks may not be a big deal for us, but could be for them (I must admit I'm not fully across the new bidding system so am not sure if 3rd picks have the same value they once did, but assuming they do still have some value that's the deal I'd be ok with). To be honest I feel like 1x first (around pick 10) is enough straight up, but he is contracted so maybe Port play hard ball.
Do we need another HBF? Probably not. But what we do need, desperately, is elite ball users, and they don't get much more elite than Houston, so it's one I'd pull the trigger on. Also, he's dependable physically and doesn't get injured. Another big need for us.
I don't think it shows he had a damn good season so much as it shows the voters are swayed more by the name than the form.
I love Walshy and I think he's a VG Player when at his best, but this season he has been well below his usual form, and there would be a lot of players that are having better years.
Agreed. I think they may have got carried away by the stats, rather than what he was doing.
I'd be very happy with that deal, and if Houston ends up coming, I reckon it would end up something like that. The 2Ć 1sts is a starting position- the negotiation will change that. But we will have to give something to get something, and what we give will likely have to involve a 2024 first round pick.Houston to me is a big yes. Not for 2x firsts, he's a HBF who averages 23 touches the last 3 yrs and 20 for his career. He's an elite, elite kick so that's his value, but flankers who average low 20s don't get 2x firsts. Especially flankers in their late 20s.
I'd do 1x first & future 2nd for Houston and a future 3rd. .
Current HBFs. Or similar....Houston to me is a big yes. Not for 2x firsts, he's a HBF who averages 23 touches the last 3 yrs and 20 for his career. He's an elite, elite kick so that's his value, but flankers who average low 20s don't get 2x firsts. Especially flankers in their late 20s.
I'd do 1x first & future 2nd for Houston and a future 3rd. Given we have some NGA stuff going on next yr the swap of 2nd for 3rd round picks may not be a big deal for us, but could be for them (I must admit I'm not fully across the new bidding system so am not sure if 3rd picks have the same value they once did, but assuming they do still have some value that's the deal I'd be ok with). To be honest I feel like 1x first (around pick 10) is enough straight up, but he is contracted so maybe Port play hard ball.
Do we need another HBF? Probably not. But what we do need, desperately, is elite ball users, and they don't get much more elite than Houston, so it's one I'd pull the trigger on. Also, he's dependable physically and doesn't get injured. Another big need for us.
Would we throw Moir or C. Durdin into the deal?I'd be very happy with that deal, and if Houston ends up coming, I reckon it would end up something like that. The 2Ć 1sts is a starting position- the negotiation will change that. But we will have to give something to get something, and what we give will likely have to involve a 2024 first round pick.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if we try to find a way to get another selection in the first round this year, even if it late. Trade one for Houston, and still have a pick to use before the Campo twins.
Didn't see that. Bit surprised by that.Herald Sun ruling it out this morning.
Ports first pick is around 37 atm.Given up a first rounder and second rounder is way overs in my opinion given his age. Bailey Smith at 23 is looking at a mid first rounder to get a deal done. I'd prefer to target Miles Bergman.
Owies has had a great season. Will finish in our top 10 in our B&F. Should be rewarded with a contract.Our only small forward to prove durable and consistent i.e. do his job.
Yes, he'll never be Kysaiah Pickett, but:
2024 goals:
Pickett - 34 (12 assists)
Owies - 32 (14 assists).
To put him in some perspective:
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The logic around JSOS playing back is just common sense for various reasons. Sure, that (b/c his Dad did) isn't at the top of the list. But:
I'm 100% on board the JSOS in defense and Kemp up forward this offseason.
- He has some of the best defensive capabilities and second-third efforts of anyone in our team
- He's the perfect size and has good overall ability and footy IQ, having played in various positions
- He has fallen out (pre-injury even, arguably) of locked best 22 spot up forward given the team has developed
- We've had success turning even the most maligned player in Gov into a high-quality backman
- It seems the rage these days to turn 'failed' forwards into excellent defenders to reasonable success
- JSOS is a team player so would give it everything to make it work
- It's worth trying before paying up to get an expensive KPD option given our list and salary situation
- He already has excellent chemistry and connection with the team so would slot into the backs group easily
Ports first pick is around 37 atm.
Would offer our R1 this year flat as our best offerā¦ a mid first rounder is about right even contracted.