Bluemour Melting Pot XXXII - Reaching fever pitch! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[thylacine60]

The very best part of the presser with Voss for me was when he talked about the narrative “we need to have a greater purpose” when talking about the team performance.

You can see Dogs,Tigers,Demons are connected. There is such a stark difference when watching Carlton play, we don’t play like a team that has a greater purpose for each other. The aim to simply kick more goals is not enough, you need to share something that makes you run and shepard and tackle and smother.. etc.. for each other, for the greater good.

link?

 

[zeggie]

Guys, seriously just shut the fu** up!!! So Bostonian has a different opinion to the majority. So what, he is entitled to. Just put him on ignore if it upsets you so much. Move on.
I don't get how people attack the guy for a different opinion yet as soon as someone disputes an ITK or points out they were wrong you get banned. Double standards much??

Ignored.

 

[Bostonian]

And yet instead of musing on whether Kingsley had shortcomings that were highlighted during the interview process, the assumption is that "Tactics guy should get job".

The balance of the coaching group is going to be much more important than any individual accolades or accomplishments.

Voss ticks a lot of boxes, so hopefully we can get the right mix of people working alongside him to ensure that his focus on leadership, accountability and high performance is paired with a sustainable gameplan and improved execution of basic skills.

Or perhaps it was, past two coaches zero tactics and shit game plans.

Let's try something different and get someone good at that.

You know, so that when a team kicks 5 on us there's half a chance we have someone who has a few tactics up their sleeve to stem the flow.

 

[macky99]

Okay to have opinions which we all do, but at least have the courtesy of being open minded, sure Cook/Williams know nothing about selecting whom they consider the right person.
It is also fine to reserve your judgement until later down the track, but not be so close minded on the topic.

 

[zeggie]

It's clear from the uproar that Sayers needs to immediately call a review of the coaching panel.

 

[thylacine60]

Or perhaps it was, past two coaches zero tactics and sh*t game plans.

Let's try something different and get someone good at that.

You know, so that when a team kicks 5 on us there's half a chance we have someone who has a few tactics up their sleeve to stem the flow.

and on it goes, not a shred of support for the club he purportedly follows..........I don't get the point........never have...........

 

[zeggie]

Let's try something different and get someone good at that.

Like Leppa?

Now I know you're trolling.

 

[thylacine60]

how long does it take the cfc media crew to put up the press conference? who employed these people anyway? what was the focus of the interviews? were the right questions asked? do we even know if these people have a contingency plan? what if there is an earthquake? can they even dos? I want answers!!!

 

[Bostonian]

Guys, seriously just shut the fu** up!!! So Bostonian has a different opinion to the majority. So what, he is entitled to. Just put him on ignore if it upsets you so much. Move on.
I don't get how people attack the guy for a different opinion yet as soon as someone disputes an ITK or points out they were wrong you get banned. Double standards much??

It's ok mate.

Water off a ducks back to me. None of them could kick a goal on me if I stood them at FUB and they know it.

 

[Bostonian]

Like Leppa?

Now I know you're trolling.

My choice was Pyke or Lyon. They go ok.

So to does apparently Kingsley on the cerebral side of the white board.

Did you ever watch the TV series the recruit by the way?

 

[macky99]

It's ok mate.

Water off a ducks back to me. None of them could kick a goal on me if I stood them at FUB and they know it.

Commentary tells a story in itself.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

It's ok mate.

Water off a ducks back to me. None of them could kick a goal on me if I stood them at FUB and they know it.

I bow down to your football skillzzz

 

[GT619]

Deflated ...

 

[Kings of Lygon]

this crap took longer than I expected - pompous poster spreads negative muck all over the place, gets met with general resistance by more than one other - cries of "bullying" and "group think" - it's as predictable as bostonian's first autopsy effort in march "nothing's changed, same old losing mentality etc etc"

I'm sorry, but a lot of what you go on with is bullying. Straight up. There's challenging people's views or resisting them, then there is what you do.

I'm not the one who brought 'group think' into the conversation. It was someone else who didn't realise they were saying it ironically.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Or perhaps it was, past two coaches zero tactics and sh*t game plans.

Let's try something different and get someone good at that.

You know, so that when a team kicks 5 on us there's half a chance we have someone who has a few tactics up their sleeve to stem the flow.

That just seems to be a deliberately contrarian point of view.

Past few coaches have been poor tacticians, so we should get a good tactician even if they don't tick the boxes around setting standards, driving competitive culture, building relationships with players, being able to communicate clearly an effectively with players and other coaches etc.

I'd argue that the issue with Teague wasn't that he was a poor tactician. It was that he was unwilling to deviate from a gameplan he believed in wholeheartedly. Could have put Kingsley in underneath him, and we'd probably have had the same result because Teague wanted nothing more than for the team to play his exciting brand of football (and hopefully win sometimes).

I'm not fussed if Voss isn't a genius tactician, provided he has an understanding of his strengths and weaknesses, and a willingness to develop a gameplan with the help of some capable assistants and then adapt that gameplan over time based on results. Maybe that's what he demonstrated to the panel? A combination of confidence and strength of character, an understanding of the game, and the humility to know that his personal opinions won't always be the best ones and that he'll have a team of people whose strengths he can draw on.

 

[slashin_velvet]

how long does it take the cfc media crew to put up the press conference? who employed these people anyway? what was the focus of the interviews? were the right questions asked? do we even know if these people have a contingency plan? what if there is an earthquake? can they even dos? I want answers!!!

What they said: Voss ready to take charge

Michael Voss fronted the media after being appointed as the new Senior Coach for the AFL side.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

how long does it take the cfc media crew to put up the press conference? who employed these people anyway? what was the focus of the interviews? were the right questions asked? do we even know if these people have a contingency plan? what if there is an earthquake? can they even dos? I want answers!!!

Sayers calling immediate review into the Social media team as we speak...there's a lot to play out here

 

[zeggie]

how long does it take the cfc media crew to put up the press conference? who employed these people anyway? what was the focus of the interviews? were the right questions asked? do we even know if these people have a contingency plan? what if there is an earthquake? can they even dos? I want answers!!!

We need to initiate a review of the social media department.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

I'm sorry, but a lot of what you go on with is bullying. Straight up. There's challenging people's views or resisting them, then there is what you do.

I'm not the one who brought 'group think' into the conversation. It was someone else who didn't realise they were saying it ironically.

Yeah, no. I wasn't saying it ironically. I suggest you don't try to belittle my intelligence, even passively. You clearly didn't bother to read my whole exchange and just got triggered by my use of the term 'group think'.

Good to see you back Harker but **** me. Your triggers are the same, and you've got this one wrong.

 

[zeggie]

My choice was Pyke or Lyon.

Cool. Did you think of asking Sayers to be on the panel?

Btw neither of them wanted the job. You still haven't answered how you would cope with that.

 

[zeggie]

I'm sorry, but a lot of what you go on with is bullying. Straight up. There's challenging people's views or resisting them, then there is what you do.

I'm not the one who brought 'group think' into the conversation. It was someone else who didn't realise they were saying it ironically.

Please stop bullying me.

 

[Metalcrusher]

how long does it take the cfc media crew to put up the press conference? who employed these people anyway? what was the focus of the interviews? were the right questions asked? do we even know if these people have a contingency plan? what if there is an earthquake? can they even dos? I want answers!!!

Is there a link ... because all I can find is text based ...

 

[JustaBattler]

My choice was Pyke or Lyon. They go ok.

So to does apparently Kingsley on the cerebral side of the white board.

Did you ever watch the TV series the recruit by the way?

Clarkson seriously needs rtime off to get over being sacked by Kennett and time to get revenge via dollars paid is part - timing was always off for Clarkson.
Pyke needs more time to recover from that whole camp nonsense
Lyon would have been the safe bet
Vossy is probably a bit below Lyon on the safe bet stakes and probably a bit above in other measures.

If you did a checklist / value proposition thingy with a neutral cap on ...

you might surprise yourself on how many potential measures Vossy actually scores well in.

It is all theory until he has had a chance to work with what he has at his disposal and we will see if he has enough of what he needs as far as that goes - soon eneough. An experienced assistant next to him would be a good plan too.

I'm pretty excited in a positive sense.

 

[zeggie]

Sayers calling immediate review into the Social media team as we speak...there's a lot to play out here

We need to initiate a review of the social media department.

Dammit you beat me to it. Bravo.

 

[Metalcrusher]

My choice was Pyke or Lyon. They go ok.

So to does apparently Kingsley on the cerebral side of the white board.

Did you ever watch the TV series the recruit by the way?

His camps go alright ...