Bluemour 'Silly Season' Edition XXXIV

[Stamos]

We deserved the penalty we got.

It's just that * deserved much harsher than they got.

I comparison to all other punishments, we were treated extremely harshly.
I don't see how you can say we deserved what we got, it's the others that didn't.

 

[Dramoth]

Doggies have let Mitch Wallis go.

Any value to us if he comes cheap?

Right age bracket for us to use as depth. Could also work with Ed to try and take Dow's game to the next level next year.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Norf want to host a home game for us next year at Marvel (hopefully we never have to play down in Tassie again until the Apple Isle get their own team)

 

[Dramoth]

I don't get the negativity over our trade period. Setterfield was a little disappointing but looking over the board there were plenty of players who could play a little going to other clubs for bugger all.

We have replaced Setterfield on a wing with Acres on a wing. A player who is below average in that position with a player who this year was one of the best in the league in that position.

We did not need to replenish our onball group! We did that last year. We have Docherty who is able to go in there. If Martin and/or Williams get fit then they can go through there. Durdin and Fisher were going through there a bit at times. We have Dow who is as good a reserve for that position as any going around. We have Carroll coming on in that position who will be hard to keep out of the side. Kemp is likely to start playing on the ball next year at some level. Cuningham should be able to play a bit in the middle next year. Philp is likely to develop there then we have our top end. Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewett, Kennedy are on par with the best going around. We also have a number of prime draft picks we are yet to use, it's not an area we need to go out and blow money on. Oh and the forgotten man Ed Curnow, if he can get fit is no slouch. Heaps of quality, heaps of depth.

Backline, there is no need to spend money on that. Weitering, Young, Durdin, McGovern, Marchbank, Docherty, Saad, Williams, Boyd, Newman, Kemp and Plowman. It's stacked with depth and talent.

Our forward line is the weak area of the ground. Curnow and McKay with DeKoning as backup or 3rd tall is strong. Motlop, Durdin, Silvagni, Owies, Martin, and Honey are a bit young, raw and inconsistent. It's a big group but it could add more talent. Or could it? Young guys tend to have a habit of improving and coming on.

The wings were one of our weakest areas. Can't deny Acres, his season this year, he was one of the best and he stood up in big games. Ticks a lot of boxes. Will the player on the other wing be good enough? Hopefully, there is young talent to chose from with O'Brien and Cottrell. Williams played there in the last round and was good. Cuningham back from injury and Carroll a good chance on a wing as well.

Ruck is fine if Mirkov is AFL ready. If he's not then this is just poor recruiting. 3 ruckmen on a list that's as small as it is is fine.

We have topped up a lot from other clubs over the last few years, we have also invested in youth, we just need both of these things to come together.

Quite happy to fill our biggest hole with one of the best available, back our list and youth in and hit the draft with some premium picks. We still have expected improvement that should come from all areas next year.

I think that Mirkov is another year away from becoming an AFL talent. Considering we took him as a mid-year draft top up, he can go another year before we should start expecting anything from him. One thing that we could use is another older ruckman as cover. IIRC, Pitto is our oldest ruck and he's only 24? Having someone in the 29-30 year range would be good backup for them.

 

[Dramoth]

Always liked Wallis and thought he’s always been played out of position. But he just might be a little too old now. I’d still take a punt if there’s an available list spot.

Pick him up as an PSSP if we have an LTI over the off-season maybe?

 

[Dramoth]

Was very keen on Wallis a few years back, but that ship has sailed.

Unpopular opinion incoming: I’d very seriously consider signing Josh Walker as a DFA.

Mature tall who can fill a role at either end. Strong pair of hands.

Have always liked him as a footballer.

Could always use another tall defender in reserve. Just having Durdin, S. in reserve as a KPP defender is a bit worrying really.

 

[Arr0w]

I agree and disagree with that.

Not sure we deserved quite as harsh a penalty as we got. Is sending a club back to the stoneage for 10 yrs fair punishment for it? I don't quite think so, and ultimately it was probably bad for the competition as a whole.

But Essendon should have been penalised more. They voluntarily put the health of the players at risk using them as doping guinea pigs. That's a whole world above cheating an administrative system, at least imo.

AFL didn't send us back to the Stoneage, that was our doing. After the sanctions, we continued to avoid appropriate list management strategies

 

[Coops93]

AFL didn't send us back to the Stoneage, that was our doing. After the sanctions, we continued to avoid appropriate list management strategies

There's a case to be made in that space, for sure. There's multiple angles in this and the answer isn't straight forward.

Alas there's not much point in going over it now though.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Norf want to host a home game for us next year at Marvel (hopefully we never have to play down in Tassie again until the Apple Isle get their own team)

Tassie is awesome for a golf trip and a game of footy.

When in Launceston, Barnbougle for two days back Saturday night and get on the piss then game on Sunday.

Cracking boys weekend

Need to work out the same for Hobart if Tassie get their own team, I’m sure the locals can give me some tips on a cracking course down south

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[myblueroan]

But Walsh is a 'bit' player ffs

Bits are good for steering.

 

[katmanblue]

We deserved the penalty we got.

It's just that * deserved much harsher than they got.

No. The draft penalties were too much.

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[Coona Blues]

Bits are good for steering.

So many lines…
Don’t go there Coona.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Can you let us know how we could of got Grundy or Dunkley in the trade period real interested in your thoughts of how it could have been achieved ?

Obviously this was salary cap related. Adding 4 young players in the draft means you have 4 list spots taken by guys on the minimum salary.

At the other end is Grundy who is being subsidised by Collingwood but still costs a fortune... and his body is falling apart now with 6 years to go on a contract.

On paper looks like it would have been a good fit for us but has to be one of the highest risk trades in history... and we didn't have the cap space anyway

 

[beowulf]

I agree and disagree with that.

Not sure we deserved quite as harsh a penalty as we got. Is sending a club back to the stoneage for 10 yrs fair punishment for it? I don't quite think so, and ultimately it was probably bad for the competition as a whole.

But I agree Essendon should have been penalised more. They voluntarily put the health of the players at risk using them as doping guinea pigs. That's a whole world above cheating an administrative system, at least imo.

I still cannot believe there are those out there who thought Essendon was hard done by. They didn't get a fraction of what they deserved. Turning their list into guinea pigs is bad enough, but to 'lose', or 'never have' a record of what got put into whom ...

I think how the 2 clubs reacted to their issues tells you a lot about a club.
[1] When we were guilty, the first thing we did was to get rid of those responsible.
[2] Essendon have never owned responsibility. Some of the people involved back then remained for years, with no action against them taken.

It might have hurt us, but we did the right thing in the aftermath. They haven't.

 

[AndyWalkersGirl]

Tassie is awesome for a golf trip and a game of footy.

When in Launceston, Barnbougle for two days back Saturday night and get on the piss then game on Sunday.

Cracking boys weekend

Need to work out the same for Hobart if Tassie get their own team, I’m sure the locals can give me some tips on a cracking course down south

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Barilla Bay green. Near the airport. Oysters too, if that’s your thing.

 

[GoBlues!]

Bits are good for steering.

As you would know horsey, even the smallest bits can be critical to success.

As Benny Franklin once said:

For the want of a nail the shoe was lost,
For the want of a shoe the horse was lost,
For the want of a horse the rider was lost,
For the want of a rider the battle was lost,
For the want of a battle the kingdom was lost,
And all for the want of a horseshoe-nail.

 

[AT97]

I still cannot believe there are those out there who thought Essendon was hard done by. They didn't get a fraction of what they deserved. Turning their list into guinea pigs is bad enough, but to 'lose', or 'never have' a record of what got put into whom ...

I think how the 2 clubs reacted to their issues tells you a lot about a club.
[1] When we were guilty, the first thing we did was to get rid of those responsible.
[2] Essendon have never owned responsibility. Some of the people involved back then remained for years, with no action against them taken.

It might have hurt us, but we did the right thing in the aftermath. They haven't.

and of the opinion of some, the coach of that period is still seen as a viable option to again take control of young athletes…beggars belief.

 

[BlueJet]

I agree and disagree with that.

Not sure we deserved quite as harsh a penalty as we got. Is sending a club back to the stoneage for 10 yrs fair punishment for it? I don't quite think so, and ultimately it was probably bad for the competition as a whole.

But I agree Essendon should have been penalised more. They voluntarily put the health of the players at risk using them as doping guinea pigs. That's a whole world above cheating an administrative system, at least imo.

I know that others will disagree but personally, I don't see the removal of a few first round picks as being the death penalty that others do, rather, our almost aggressive mismanagement until recent times saw to that IMO.

 

[Garters]

I know that others will disagree but personally, I don't see the removal of a few first round picks as being the death penalty that others do, rather, our almost aggressive mismanagement until recent times saw to that IMO.

This. 100%

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I know that others will disagree but personally, I don't see the removal of a few first round picks as being the death penalty that others do, rather, our almost aggressive mismanagement until recent times saw to that IMO.

Hughes and Rogers, couldn’t pick a booger in a crowded toddlers nose in the middle of winter

Much like

And the admin allowed it to happen for far too long, hoping like hell has picked the winning side to be on


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[Bletch]

I know that others will disagree but personally, I don't see the removal of a few first round picks as being the death penalty that others do, rather, our almost aggressive mismanagement until recent times saw to that IMO.

People tend to forget that other clubs lost draft picks too. We got hit two years running, for two different offences. Utter stupidity and a complete lack of governance.

 

[Robertio]

People tend to forget that other clubs lost draft picks too. We got hit two years running, for two different offences. Utter stupidity and a complete lack of governance.

Both Essendon and Adelaide who lost first round picks were allowed to trade back into the first round, we were not.

 

[JustaBattler]

Both Essendon and Adelaide who lost first round picks were allowed to trade back into the first round, we were not.

Carlton got properly shafted by Evans Snr and Demetriou his appointed ( and now proven) crooked lap dog. It was a different era. Since then the AFL has learned that you don't go around destroying one of the most valuable Clubs in the competition - just for giggles.

 

[FRUMPY]

Both Essendon and Adelaide who lost first round picks were allowed to trade back into the first round, we were not.

AFL salary cap - Wikipedia

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going by this, we deserved a harsher penalty......

not sure how anyone can complain about the punishment we got for the biggest breach, and by far the biggest break of the salary cap.

 

[Robertio]

AFL salary cap - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

going by this, we deserved a harsher penalty......

not sure how anyone can complain about the punishment we got for the biggest breach, and by far the biggest break of the salary cap.

I didn't complain mate just stating the difference in penaltys.