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TBH i think he has some good knowledge towards juniors and gets to see quite a few games of the potential draftees.
No ones opinion is greater than the next on a board like this.
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TBH i think he has some good knowledge towards juniors and gets to see quite a few games of the potential draftees.
No ones opinion is greater than the next on a board like this.
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Um, Gumbleton was considered one of the best KPP prospects of all time. Not a "riskier" choice at all. Selwood was considered the risky choice because of his knee.
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Have tried to get better this year and due to my pregnancy I have matured a lot this year, especially after having my first child. I don't feel I was bad this year. Sure in the past maybe.
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You know she's been caught out for lying about attending u18 games right?
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More talking about Boak actually, not Selwood. Fact remains we have taken talls early and 2 times out of the last ones, they have failed miserably.
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Hurley and Gumbleton are miserable failures?
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Im only an occassional poster but I have been reading bf threads for 4 years now so i can understand to a certain extent why there is some frustration, but do we need to be pedantically nit picking at every thing she says.
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At this stage yes Gumbleton has not lived up to expectations, Hurley is fine, where did I question him. Laycock was the other one!
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Laycock was nearly 10 years ago.
I assumed you meant Hurley and Gumbleton because you said 2 of the "last ones" were failures.
Our last few years of taking talls with early picks:
08: Hurley
06: Gumbleton
05: Ryder
Never mind, no point in arguing about semantics too much.
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Laycock is the case in point as to why you don't draft a ruck with pick 8! he was very ordinary!
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Agree i think we have done quite well with talls in the last few years with our first picks. However i think this shows that we need a good midfielder with our first round.
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Hamish McIntosh was drafted with pick 9.
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Pretty much and lets be honest at this stage as much as I rate the bloke, Myers has been a failure so far, Monfries we drafted as a midfielder but has never had the body to play there. So when we have gone small we have picked the wrong blokes!
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So what, the best ones in the league were rookie picks. No need to waste picks on ruckmen early. How many times do I have to say this...you can trade for a ruckmen when you are in your window.
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That entire draft was ordinary.
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How can I argue with this infallible logic?
So by your logic, shouldn't Myers be "case in point" as to why you shouldn't draft midfielders at high draft picks?
So that's ruckman and midfielders gone from the list, and I'm sure there is failed forwards and backmen. So obviously the most logical option is to pass. I mean, one failed recruit means no doubt every high draft pick will be a failure, so what's the point in trying?
I can understand what Bombersno1 is trying to say and although I thinkher view is a tad simplistic, I think she is kinda right.
Generally speaking it is easier to nail picks with midfielders. Obviously there are exceptions and certain factors which come into play.
But sometimes the safer option is not always the best option. I reckon this may well be proven with Gumbleton. He was the clear number 2 in 2006 but Gibbs was the safe option for the Blues. Once thisw kid gets somemore games into him he is going to be a beast. Gibbs will always be a very good, consistant (vanilla/safe) mid.
Generally speaking it is easier to nail picks with midfielders. Obviously there are exceptions and certain factors which come into play.
But sometimes the safer option is not always the best option. I reckon this may well be proven with Gumbleton. He was the clear number 2 in 2006 but Gibbs was the safe option for the Blues. Once thisw kid gets somemore games into him he is going to be a beast. Gibbs will always be a very good, consistant (vanilla/safe) mid.
Myers wasn't what I would consider to be a safe midfield pick. He played more as a backman as a junior and his body type was going to be a worry in regards to being a midfielder.
I get what you're saying and it's a valid point. But what bombersno1 and other are doing are completely disregarding the individuality of the current situation and completely ignoring Gorringe the player and simply saying he will be a failure because of his type.
BTW, I'm wasn't saying anything about the Myers pick - I'll reserve judgement on that for a few years. I was just going along with her saying he was a failure. And by her logic one failure, means every other person of that type, disregarding all other points, will automatically be a failure.
BTW, I'm wasn't saying anything about the Myers pick - I'll reserve judgement on that for a few years. I was just going along with her saying he was a failure. And by her logic one failure, means every other person of that type, disregarding all other points, will automatically be a failure.
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Myers wasn't really a midfielder but he was a smaller player so to speak, that said he isn't that small. I was against picking Myers at the time, I am always of the belief that you should ALWAYS pick a midfielder if you want a mid, not a HBF/mid.
In our last few dibs the only true midfielder we have gone for has been Melksham with a first round choice. Fair to say we need a few more first round choices on PURE midfielders.
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Where have I said Gorringe will fail? I have said all along our PRESSING need is for midfielders not ruckmen, and there lies my point. Sure if Hille retired last year take Gorringe, but he is still playing. I don't want a ruckman with our first rounder, I want a midfielder OR Darling.
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Good to see that this thread is moving along - And Bombers No 1 is being made to justify her opinion.
There was some discussion earlier about Watts and Natanui earlier in this thread - And whether they had a football brain.
Watched the two Under 18 Championship Games at Casey Fields and Etihad so watched Watts and Natanui in the flesh.
Wrote a report at that time about my observations of certain players.
Watts has a fine football brain - At the under 18's displayed some of the following qualities
- Good peripheral vision
- good reading of the play
- team oriented
- good ability to find space in the forward line
Natanui has a developing football brain - Tends to hunt the ball ( at times very effectively ) but is still learning how to read the ball and to link up. He will be a fantastic midfielder/ruckmen if he can improve his reading of the play.
Can't comment on Lynch's football brain - Only watched one or two videos - One would assume that he must have a reasonable football brain - seeing that he was originally a midfielder.
Seen a few videos of Darling - And he appears to be a natural footballer.
Hope this hasn't confused you any more.
There was some discussion earlier about Watts and Natanui earlier in this thread - And whether they had a football brain.
Watched the two Under 18 Championship Games at Casey Fields and Etihad so watched Watts and Natanui in the flesh.
Wrote a report at that time about my observations of certain players.
Watts has a fine football brain - At the under 18's displayed some of the following qualities
- Good peripheral vision
- good reading of the play
- team oriented
- good ability to find space in the forward line
Natanui has a developing football brain - Tends to hunt the ball ( at times very effectively ) but is still learning how to read the ball and to link up. He will be a fantastic midfielder/ruckmen if he can improve his reading of the play.
Can't comment on Lynch's football brain - Only watched one or two videos - One would assume that he must have a reasonable football brain - seeing that he was originally a midfielder.
Seen a few videos of Darling - And he appears to be a natural footballer.
Hope this hasn't confused you any more.
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