Player Watch Brayden Sier (Delisted 2021)

[barrackers]

People keep mentioning his "size", anyone have recent photos? If he's anywhere close to Maynard's size, that would be beneficial.

From a couple of weeks ago (not my photos)

 

[Pippie27]

Would you put him on the rookie list, or keep him on the senior for one more year?

Considering his size, and his age (hes still not 20 and only 4 months older than brown) youd keep him on the senior list, he was always going to be a project player and in training hes shown flashes.

 

[Anzacday]

barrackers thanks for posting those photos - a keeper for sure.
He now has muscle definition and is growing into his body.
I'd be interested to see how he goes as a lead-up/marking forward next year.

 

[Soups]

Considering his size, and his age (hes still not 20 and only 4 months older than brown) youd keep him on the senior list, he was always going to be a project player and in training hes shown flashes.

Yep I agree. Kids a massive unit, if he can get a good run with injuries who knows, we might get ourself a beauty.

 

[robertg22]

Breakout candidate for 2018 if he can have a full preseason and get a decent crack at it. We'd be crazy to delist now, 1 year deal on the senior list should do the trick

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Breakout candidate for 2018 if he can have a full preseason and get a decent crack at it. We'd be crazy to delist now, 1 year deal on the senior list should do the trick

Agree.

Love to see him full preseason.

And now we have pictures with him and a ball in a game.

Nice.

(Better finish the project and see what we have.)

 

[DaVe86]

Those photos alone show why we'd be keen to hang onto him. He is an absolute beast, with some real ability to burst from a contest.

But that's pretty much all we know about him at the moment.

Even when we recruited him, he was bottom aged and very raw in terms of exposure to elite systems. All he had was a few TAC Cup games and school footy to go on.

Since then, he has pretty much spent the last 2 years on the injury list, which hasn't helped his development at all.

I'd like to move him to the rookie list if possible.

Can someone confirm whether we can just 'move' him, or whether he'd need to be delisted and taken as a rookie.

I don't think he warrants a spot on the senior list. The issue is that even with a full pre-season, he isn't really a candidate for selection next year anyway. He is really a long term prospect, of which is better suited to a rookie list so we don't waste a senior list spot.

 

[rand corp]

Give him another year, young, massive unit, has shown glimpses and needs a good run at it, hopefully next year.

 

[robertg22]

I don't think he warrants a spot on the senior list. The issue is that even with a full pre-season, he isn't really a candidate for selection next year anyway. He is really a long term prospect, of which is better suited to a rookie list so we don't waste a senior list spot.

Plenty of our senior listed players don't really warrant a spot on the senior list (hello Oxley). My understanding is that we have to delist him and then re rookie him, allowing other clubs to offer him a senior spot if they want? I may be wrong though

 

[Johno9911]

I don't know much about him so asking more astute VFL watchers whether or not he could play as a forward? 190+cm's and a big strong unit, could he play as a third tall target? At ~191-192cm he's about the same height and build as a Darling or Stringer type? Guess I'm asking whether or not he's got the ability to be a marking target forward?

 

[barrackers]

Plenty of our senior listed players don't really warrant a spot on the senior list (hello Oxley). My understanding is that we have to delist him and then re rookie him, allowing other clubs to offer him a senior spot if they want? I may be wrong though

That's my understanding too, although other clubs could also rookie him before us. Schade is a recent example of the delist/rookie plan going wrong.

 

[Buckley is my hero]

I don't know much about him so asking more astute VFL watchers whether or not he could play as a forward? 190+cm's and a big strong unit, could he play as a third tall target? At ~191-192cm he's about the same height and build as a Darling or Stringer type? Guess I'm asking whether or not he's got the ability to be a marking target forward?

Just because you have a build doesn't make you a football player. So far he has done nothing at VFL to justify one's faith in him, so the the logical course should be to delist him and then rookie him in the preseason draft.

 

[robertg22]

That's my understanding too, although other clubs could also rookie him before us. Schade is a recent example of the delist/rookie plan going wrong.

Would be madness if that happened and he ended up becoming a gun somewhere else.

 

[Johno9911]

Just because you have a build doesn't make you a football player. So far he has done nothing at VFL to justify one's faith in him, so the the logical course should be to delist him and then rookie him in the preseason draft.

Thanks mate, wasn't really saying whether he was a player or not as I haven't seen him much in action at all. Was more asking whether he has the scope to potentially play as a target forward?

What happens to him list wise I'll leave to those who know him and his football better to have those discussions.

 

[Rorzza]

Would you put him on the rookie list, or keep him on the senior for one more year?

I'm not fussed if he is on the rookie or senior list. It is rare for a club to use all 40 players on the senior list in a season and a number of clubs have speculative players on their senior list with the understanding those players more than likely won't play AFL games for a number of years. Sier being on a senior list doesn't prevent rookie listed players from opportunities, given the rules regarding rookie elevations possible through out the year.

How I feel about Sier is based on the original decision and I don't believe anything has changed. The club selected Sier based on his potential, that is still the case. Sier due to a bad run of injuries has not progressed as some would like but he's still young and could still become an AFL player.

I think generally those posters that were comfortable with Siers drafting in the first place are comfortable with his slow progress todate. Those posters that weren't comfortable with his drafting are irate to day.

 

[ash84]

club lists him as 191cm and 89kg
Wills: 192cm and 87kg

considering Wills is 4 years older, and that Sier has probably grown since the numbers listed by the website, he could be a beast.

 

[ottoman]

No need to rookie him. If we want to make room on the senior list their are no shortage of certified list clogers that could make way before him.
None of us really know much about him due to his injuries, but we do know about Blair or White or Oxley or Keeffe or Mayne etc etc etc. There are at least half a dozen players who should make way before he does.

 

[TW Sherrin]

I don't think he warrants a spot on the senior list. The issue is that even with a full pre-season, he isn't really a candidate for selection next year anyway. He is really a long term prospect, of which is better suited to a rookie list so we don't waste a senior list spot.

if he's not playing senior footy next year he needs to be knocking on the door. another year like this year and he's becoming a long shot.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Would be madness if that happened and he ended up becoming a gun somewhere else.

Imagine all the melts on here, mainly by the ones wanting his head on a spike.

Yikes, those melts would be something to behold

 

[Saintly Viewed]

club lists him as 191cm and 89kg
Wills: 192cm and 87kg

considering Wills is 4 years older, and that Sier has probably grown since the numbers listed by the website, he could be a beast.

Like the yeti

Known beast but never seen

Another year with a full pre season and who knows might be quite the player, worth the punt in my view

 

[Saintly Viewed]

No need to rookie him. If we want to make room on the senior list their are no shortage of certified list clogers that could make way before him.
None of us really know much about him due to his injuries, but we do know about Blair or White or Oxley or Keeffe or Mayne etc etc etc. There are at least half a dozen players who should make way before he does.

That's it nicely stated.

There's quite a few I'd move in before Sier.

All your listed players to move on are fair enough too. Only Keeffe I'd keep as depth as to his height.
But even then I'd be not that fussed.

 

[DaVe86]

if he's not playing senior footy next year he needs to be knocking on the door. another year like this year and he's becoming a long shot.

he was a relatively speculative selection even in his draft year. No one had really even heard of him. Add 2 injury plagued years, and we really aren't any closer to knowing his capabilities.

But I would like to persist with him, purely because on paper he is such an intriguing prospect. He clearly has a bit of pace to break out of a contest, and incredible size for a midfielder.

He was probably a 3 year prospect even when recruited, and that was based on him playing stacks of football and having full pre-seasons. He hasn't been able to do that, so he is probably still another 2-3 years off.

On that basis, I'd prefer to have him on the rookie list just because senior spots are so tight. But it would be a shame to delist him when he hasn't had a clear run at it, and he is still super young.

 

[DaVe86]

No need to rookie him. If we want to make room on the senior list their are no shortage of certified list clogers that could make way before him.
None of us really know much about him due to his injuries, but we do know about Blair or White or Oxley or Keeffe or Mayne etc etc etc. There are at least half a dozen players who should make way before he does.

True, but Oxley and Mayne are contracted, and we don't have much KPP depth so Keeffe may survive.

The only certainty to depart right now is White who has announced his retirement.

if spots are tight, we may need to consider moving Sier to the rookie list.

 

[Buckley is my hero]

That's my understanding too, although other clubs could also rookie him before us. Schade is a recent example of the delist/rookie plan going wrong.

Good luck to any club wanting to rookie him before us.

 

[Buckley is my hero]

True, but Oxley and Mayne are contracted, and we don't have much KPP depth so Keeffe may survive.

The only certainty to depart right now is White who has announced his retirement.

if spots are tight, we may need to consider moving Sier to the rookie list.

We don't need any KPP depth when we have a coach with an aversion to playing KPP's.