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Good get. I was wondering what happened to NF... and here he was under our noses the whole time.
Was specifically referring to the backlash from senior coaching change. As for possibly moving to Cockburn, jumper changes and song that has no bearing with on-field performance that's happened this season, I agree.
This is the only account I have.
He'll build on what lyon and stone have begun.
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Has he done a presser yet?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/148867/default.aspx
"People talk about the Bloods culture; trust me, it's there. I'm not going to divulge too much, but it's very special to be a part of."
What are they doing at Sydney? Sacrificing virgins, biting the heads off chickens or swearing blood brother oaths?
I don't care what it is but can we have what they're having thanks kirky?
"People talk about the Bloods culture; trust me, it's there. I'm not going to divulge too much, but it's very special to be a part of."
What are they doing at Sydney? Sacrificing virgins, biting the heads off chickens or swearing blood brother oaths?
I don't care what it is but can we have what they're having thanks kirky?
A couple of months or so ago we had a member of Leading Teams come to our cricket club and discuss certain aspects of cultures in community clubs and how they compare with AFL and elite competition clubs.
Needless to say it was a very interesting discussion but the man who came to talk to us had just been apart of review day (the monday night we saw him) for Carlton when they lost to the swans at Etihad.
He had worked with a heap of AFL teams over the years and said the Swans by far are the bench mark. He said the reason they can get players to come in, who struggle at their former clubs, and play great footy is the culture. These players come in and know their role and are expected to give their all for the club.
Needless to say Carlton's culture wasn't up to scratch but I wont go too much into what he said about them other than what most of you should already know. Too few leading too many for Carlton.
But I think we, Fremantle FC, are heading in the right direction in our back of house recruiting and as this year has shown the culture is changing. It'll be an interesting few years ahead for us.
All the ex Swans who took to the airwaves yesterday talked about how Roos would do things like pick up recruited players at the airport and drive them around town, showing them the sights, that the players, due to isolation in Sydney, socialise together. Those in charge, lead by example. buy in, or you are out.
I think we've already seen the difference in the way out lot are taking to the road and playing anywhere, anytime.
I think we've already seen the difference in the way out lot are taking to the road and playing anywhere, anytime.
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It's been a long time coming but there are definite signs of a culture developing and a winning one at that. The days of uncertainty as to what the team will dish up next week are definitely on the wane as well as the attitude of some individuals who thought they were better than they actually are. The move by Lyon to send Walters back to SD with a clearly defined challenge is the sort of action that's never be done at Fremantle (not in my memory anyway and I can go back to day 1) and is the type of action that sends a clear message that indifference and lack of commitment will not be tolerated. Things are on the up.
That's interesting about the handling of the isolation. I often wonder about the story behind how Jetta adjusted to the massive change of life. When Sydney drafted him I thought they were taking a huge risk by drafting a shy country boy from WA and plonking him in Sydney. I thought if ever there was a candidate for homesickness or just not fitting in etc I thought this'd be it, but he hasn't missed a beat since getting there. Hopefully we'll get to hear the background story one day, or perhaps he's just a very easy going adaptable individual. Either way its a good story.
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You can control an organisation through strict adherence to a set of behaviour patterns, but building a culture takes time. The bloods culture at Sydney isn't even theirs, it belongs to South Melbourne. What we're beginning to see is Sydney as a club becoming comfortable with their history and embracing it.
Fremantle supporters will just have to be satisified with a developing culture and accept the fact that it will take time to develop.
Fremantle supporters will just have to be satisified with a developing culture and accept the fact that it will take time to develop.
They need to incorporate\infuse\absorb the preexisting East\Sowf Fremantle footy history. By far the most successful footy area.
And yet apparently is was an absolute mess after the Eddleston years and it wasn't till Roos got there that things began to change for the better. To hear those who were there tell it the culture they have now is because of one person, Paul Roos.
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Exactly. I think it was Leigh Matthews who said the only culture that exists at a club is what the current personnel create.
I find it hard to believe South Melbourne had an amazing culture when they didn't win a premiership for 50+ years and were forced to move to Sydney.
The credit lies completely with Roos and his successors imo, nothing to do with embracing some old Victorian culture.
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Yes and yes.
We shouldn't kid ourselves, culture takes time, but it's created by people. You can inherit a good culture, but it will quickly mean nothing unless the right people exhibit it in character and action. You can, likewise, inherit a thin/poor culture and if the right people, especially at the top, exhibit the right qualities and are firm in their convictions, then a good culture will grow. The next step is when it is 'mythologised', when the facts don't even get in the way of maintaining a 'culture', which is what has happened over at the Swans in the past decade - the cold hard truth is that it was non-existent at the Swans 10+ years ago but for special leaders doing their thing.
Just read on wikipedia that the swans are called swans because of the high number of west Australians they had playing for them in the 1930-40s. Swans being the WA state emblem. Didn't know that about them but like them even more now.
I have always wondered that. I don't have the stats but I don't think South Melbourne were a very successful teams. It was mention in the Grand Final pre game address that Bob Skilton played in 4 GF's and they lost the lot??
For me it was Roos, Kirk, Jude Bolton, Lockett etc that made this club.
Yes indeed, and evidenced by our wins on the road this season.
It is tough brand of football and depth is going to be more important to us than it has been in the past, especially midfield.
Eddleston was gone by approximately the end of 88 and the AFL appointed Ron Barrassi who started to turn things around. Rodney Eade came in and he took them to the 96 grand final with the help of Kelly, Lockett and Roos. Eade's laid the groundwork. When Kelly retired as captain and Stuart Maxfield was appointed he started the Bloods culture which was embraced by Goodes, Bolton, Hall, Kirk etc. They have joint captains and strong leadership group so it is hard to go astray. Kirk is going to be a major asset to the Fremantle coaching group under Ross Lyons.
On a side note the Fremantle recruitment over the past few years of mature age and young players has been excellent. Go the DOCKERS!
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