Toast #BringBackTheBars - Our Heritage, Our History, Our Right! Part 1

[backtozero]

There's no court case here, it's a matter of principle.

We wear it and they deduct points...potential court case. The harm caused is clear and can be argued.

And what about the second time? And the third?

 

[BornPort]

How do we organise to be able to pour masses of teal paint on Collingwood as they come out of the race?

Eddie will just say it's piss.

 

[GranFormaggi]

Last year the AFL approved them so we wore them and we could sell them.

This year the club has had a whole lot made up. The AFL can't stop us getting Macron to manufacture 46 or 92 of them for internal use. It's a bit like the AFL saying you can't make a cupboard box.

But they can stop us wearing them and then selling them under the licensing agreement. I suspect the 46 or 92 jumpers will have to be put in storage or be scrapped. Probably cant even given them away.

How is it that the AFL seemingly own the PB/WP guernsey anyway? Did they pay to acquire it?

I assume it belonged to either the SANFL or the PAMFC est 1996 as part of the separate entity rubbish eliminated under One Club?

If the AFL don't own it how do they prohibit us selling it or do they prohibit the sale of any non AFL licensed merchandise by AFL clubs?

Frankly I have a mind to start an AFC Wimbledon type breakaway club and line up some merchandise to sell that looks a lot like the guernsey in question.

 

[Stewart2Austin Reborn]

Did you know that every time you wear the prison bars you actually erase a small amount of Collingwood's history?

 

[Ray Nolan]

How is it that the AFL seemingly own the PB/WP guernsey anyway? Did they pay to acquire it?

I assume it belonged to either the SANFL or the PAMFC est 1996 as part of the separate entity rubbish eliminated under One Club?

If the AFL don't own it how do they prohibit us selling it or do they prohibit the sale of any non AFL licensed merchandise by AFL clubs?

Frankly I have a mind to start an AFC Wimbledon type breakaway club and line up some merchandise to sell that looks a lot like the guernsey in question.

When we signed our original licence agreement one of the terms would have been the surrender of our intellectual property to the AFL. Whether the PB/WP guernsey was included in this surrender, I'm not sure. If it was not surrendered, the AFL hold the IP rights to the new logo and can decide not to licence any merchandise containing same of which it does not approve. If we started selling non-licenced merchandise they would come down on us like a ton of bricks.

 

[I Dont Care]

This only highlights how childish the Collingwood FC and it's former president really are. What we do in games not associated with them is none of their business. The PB guernsey is none of their business. Deals we try to achieve with the AFL are none of their business. They are only another 'co-worker' in the AFL business. Yet they cry like a kiddie in a kindergarten to get their own way

 

[GranFormaggi]

When we signed our original licence agreement one of the terms would have been the surrender of our intellectual property to the AFL. Whether the PB/WP guernsey was included in this surrender, I'm not sure. If it was not surrendered, the AFL hold the IP rights to the new logo and can decide not to licence any merchandise containing same of which it does not approve. If we started selling non-licenced merchandise they would come down on us like a ton of bricks.

We already have done this though. There were woollen and lace up pbs in the Port store last year not in anyway connected to AFL merch.

 

[PowerBaz]

He never does. He's like scomo. Hot air and announcements

Hillsong?

 

[Andre]

If the AFL says no, then it has to add to the fuel on the fire to win the flag and then all the players change in to it for the medals and cup. Such a FU to the AFL would be the stuff of dreams

If we make the GF and are a fair way ahead at 3/4 time, you'd put in on then. No way the AFL lets their showpiece not go to the team that wins. After a win, we can happily take any penalty.

 

[Pappagallo]

How is it that the AFL seemingly own the PB/WP guernsey anyway? Did they pay to acquire it?

I assume it belonged to either the SANFL or the PAMFC est 1996 as part of the separate entity rubbish eliminated under One Club?

If the AFL don't own it how do they prohibit us selling it or do they prohibit the sale of any non AFL licensed merchandise by AFL clubs?

Frankly I have a mind to start an AFC Wimbledon type breakaway club and line up some merchandise to sell that looks a lot like the guernsey in question.

I doubt they control the Prison Bars per se but they would control what items can be made using their registered trademarks (i.e. their logo, and ours incidentally).

I’m pretty sure we are still able to produce “cleanskin” versions though, such as the Fibre of Football woollen guernsey and the logo-less lace-up made by JAX.

 

[chiwigi]

And what about the second time? And the third?

Second and third what?
They need to punish us for the first wearing and we show it was excessive and caused unnecessary harm and will continue to do so.
Second and third are then fine.

 

[Andre]

Get the cheer squad to make the banner with prison bars every week

The cheer squad needs to ditch all the flags with teal as well.

 

[Lightning_Rod]

Listened to Kane on sen arvo show, biggest take away is Kim and rooch aren't really in our corner at all.

 

[backtozero]

Second and third what?
They need to punish us for the first wearing and we show it was excessive and caused unnecessary harm and will continue to do so.
Second and third are then fine.

What are you talking about?

 

[NickFlips]

 

[snozulu]

You're dealing with grown ups there. Here we have a bunch of squawling children in the sandpit who want all the toys.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

The showdown crowd is going to be rabid. A seriously boiling pot ready to explode.

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The problem is, the players don’t care about the guernsey like we do.

 

[John the Butcher]

Tredders very well spoken on 9 news sport.

 

[Nelso]

Tredders was fired up.

Tore strips off the AFL

 

[GranFormaggi]

Yeah it was these ones I mentioned us selling last year a few posts ago

I doubt they control the Prison Bars per se but they would control what items can be made using their registered trademarks (i.e. their logo, and ours incidentally).

I’m pretty sure we are still able to produce “cleanskin” versions though, such as the Fibre of Football woollen guernsey and the logo-less lace-up made by JAX.

 

[raman]

The problem is, the players don’t care about the guernsey like we do.

I'm not so sure about that. Plenty of the influential ones do.

 

[chachi11]

The nice approach of fancy videos didn't work, time to man up Port and get dirty.

**** em..

 

[240volt]

Fact AFL is really VFL
VFL looks after there own (vic clubs)
We will never get the right to wear the PB Guernsey while the VFL is running the game.

 

[FishingRick04]

The problem is, the players don’t care about the guernsey like we do.

Id suggest that’s up to the coach

 

[Ports1870]